The coffee thread

[calvino]

Oh yes. Primes the beans - the discernable change in flavor improvement is much greater than the difference between mp3 and lossless.

 

I heard of that, but not putting warm water in the carafe, then dumping it.

[lamradio]

It's more work than having a machine, for sure, but French press has a much stronger (and better) taste to me. Definitely worth the extra effort.

 

Fill the kettle, turn the stove on, grind the beans, wait for kettle to barely start whistling, warm the Bodum with some of the water, toss the warming water, add the ground coffee, add the water, put the lid on the Bodum, wait 4 minutes, stir, press down, voila!

 

I'm sold... Bodum = Now on my Christmas list.

[ikol]

I too belong in the "been drinking coffee since I was 3" camp. The French Freedom Press is my preferred method when I make it (though espresso is even better), and I drink it unadulterated with sugar, flavoring, or dairy/non-dairy products. As for whether coffee is good or bad for you, the general consensus is that in moderation it actually has health benefits. Since caffeine is addictive, regular drinkers including myself probably don't get much boost other than preventing withdrawals, but as morning rituals go, it sure beats staring at the sun.

 

I'm sold... Bodum = Now on my Christmas list.

 

A burr grinder would also be a good thing.

[Guest Speed Racer]

The French Freedom Press

 

My family starting calling our afghans "liberty blankets."

[u2roolz]

Also, u2roolz, I think the scientific community has generally settled on the fact that caffiene - a stimulant - does actually stimulate people. Of course, there is the law of diminishing returns:

Yes, but it is only a temporary stimulant that needs further intake to repeat the effect of the first drink.

 

I know off the top of my head that both of these are simply myths. How many more did you list that are false, I wonder?

 

So, are you better than people who drink coffee because you don't need coffee, or because you don't need caffiene? You do realize how ridiculously self-righteous this quoted paragraph sounds, don't you?

 

Caffeinated drinks have been long known to cause symptoms of dehydration due to increased urination. I'm guessing that you're a coffee and water drinker during the day, thus not feeling dehydrated. I know this for a fact because it used to happen to me when I would drink caffeinated coke during the day. The caffeine acts as a leech that grabs nutrients out of your system into your urine. Water does not do this.

 

Osteoporosis hasn't happened to you yet, but there are studies that have linked excessive coffee drinking with bone density loss for the reason that I gave above: the caffeine carries calcium with it out of your body via urine. You're still a young woman, so most of what I wrote probably won't apply to you until later in life.

 

And I certainly don't think that I am better than any coffee drinker out there. Although, I do wonder how a con of such magnitude has been still going on. It seems to be a vicious never ending cycle of waking up groggy and tired, drinking coffee to wake you up, coming down from that 1st cup, drinking another to pick you back up, coming down off of that one, then getting home and not being able to sleep after ingesting caffeine throughout the day only to lead you to drink coffee yet again the next morning to wake you up.

[Sir Stewart]

u2 - is it okay if I drink coffee in the morning (about 16 oz) then once in awhile* drink coffee (about 12 oz) later in the day, or do you frown upon that, too?

Eagerly,

Caffeinated & Curious

 

*once a week on average

[Guest Speed Racer]

Caffeinated drinks have been long known to cause symptoms of dehydration due to increased urination.

 

Seriously, dude. For lack of a more comprehensive link, here's a catch-all.

 

Osteoporosis hasn't happened to you yet, but there are studies that have linked excessive coffee drinking with bone density loss for the reason that I gave above: the caffeine carries calcium with it out of your body via urine. You're still a young woman, so most of what I wrote probably won't apply to you until later in life.

 

I'm sorry - did you just give me medical advice? Surely I must be misreading this. When did you finish med school?

 

And I certainly don't think that I am better than any coffee drinker out there. Although, I do wonder how a con of such magnitude has been still going on.

 

This implies that coffee drinkers are being conned? Again, your posts are full of misinformation, so I wouldn't go pointing that finger just yet. Even when saying you don't think you're better than, your post drips of condecension. You go on to say we're somehow blindly addicted an unable to function without it? On what basis do you make this claim? I had no idea I was having trouble sleeping - that all of us here were having trouble sleeping - until you brought my attention to it.

 

Next you'll tell me it stunts my growth? I'd look like a fucking giraffe if I hadn't started drinking coffee, then.

[u2roolz]

u2 - is it okay if I drink coffee in the morning (about 16 oz) then once in awhile* drink coffee (about 12 oz) later in the day, or do you frown upon that, too?

Eagerly,

Caffeinated & Curious

 

*once a week on average

 

LOL. You have my stamp of approval.

 

Although, you haven't clearly stated your purpose for drinking coffee. You hooked?

[Sir Stewart]

Although, you haven't clearly stated your purpose for drinking coffee. You hooked?

 

I drink it to offset the overdosing of multi-vitamin pills I indulge in during my nightly 'sleep-vitamining' routine. And the urinating. God, I love the urinating.

[PopTodd]

This thread was started innocently enough, but has turned into quite the controversy generator.

(Just started on my second cup of decaf.)

[Guest Speed Racer]

(Just started on my second cup of decaf.)

 

I can hear you losing calcium from two states away.

[Ghost of Electricity]

A growing body of research shows that coffee drinkers, compared to nondrinkers, are:

 

* less likely to have type 2 diabetes, Parkinson's disease, and dementia

* have fewer cases of certain cancers, heart rhythm problems, and strokes

 

 

here's the link.

 

Rec Nap's bones might be slightly brittle, but you'll lost your mind, then a blood vessel will explode in you brain. You won't know whether the shakes are from the parkinson's or your nerves watching the footrace between cancer and diabetes. winner kills you. at least you'll be sure the shankes aren't from too much caffeine. just as you're thinking a cuppa joe might be a good idea, you'll notice a magnanimous rec nap walking over to bring you a cup. When she falls and breaks a fragile hip, you will feel her pain.

[Lammycat]

I drink coffee for the same reason I drink any beverage: I'm in the mood for it. That, and drinking coffee makes me feel superior to others. So does drinking orange juice, and most other beverages, though....

[ikol]

Caffeinated drinks have been long known to cause symptoms of dehydration due to increased urination. I'm guessing that you're a coffee and water drinker during the day, thus not feeling dehydrated. I know this for a fact because it used to happen to me when I would drink caffeinated coke during the day.

 

Caffeine is a mild diuretic, but it doesn't cause you to pee out more than you take in. It might be true that you retain less water from 8 oz. coffee than 8 oz. of water, but you don't piss out more than 8 oz., thus you still have a net gain of water. And this is ignoring the fact that us coffee addicts have developed tolerance and thus do not even experience the diuretic effect. The high fructose corn syrup in a coke is way worse for you than the caffeine.

[PopTodd]

Coffee makes my pee smell good... like coffee!

[ih8music]

well, that is the sole reason I eat asparagus every chance I get...

[Ghost of Electricity]

when i was a kid and ate super sugar crisp (later super golden crisp) my pee would smell like my breakfast. At the time, i wasn't a coffee drinker.

[u2roolz]

Well, since we are giving each other links I will share mine: PNF Coffee Pros & Cons & Diagnose Me: Caffeine/Coffee Avoidance.

 

We have a PNF.org site, WebMD, Diagnose Me & Snopes (which was actually last updated in 2005). Next time I go to my Doctor I will ask him. We should all do the same. I'm sure that we will hear a wide variety of stuff.

 

I stand by my sites and others like that that provide similar information. Is Snopes more reputable than either WebMD or Diagnose Me? It's tough to say.

[Sir Stewart]

The high fructose corn syrup in a coke is way worse for you than the caffeine.

 

You hippie!

[u2roolz]

Again, your posts are full of misinformation, so I wouldn't go pointing that finger just yet. Even when saying you don't think you're better than, your post drips of condecension.

 

And your posts have never dripped of condescension? I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels or thinks that way.

 

Plus, you are trying to refute my claims by using an Urban Myth website that was last updated in 2005. Did they stop researching? Or are you trying to prove that it is foolish to ever use such information from these types of websites? Either way it is one team of scientists researching vs. another team.

[ikol]

We have a PNF.org site, WebMD, Diagnose Me & Snopes (which was actually last updated in 2005). Next time I go to my Doctor I will ask him. We should all do the same. I'm sure that we will hear a wide variety of stuff.

 

Nah, doctors all drink shit tons of coffee.

 

I stand by my sites and others like that that provide similar information. Is Snopes more reputable than either WebMD or Diagnose Me? It's tough to say.

 

I have an MD and think that coffee is delicious and nutritious.

 

You hippie!

 

Hmm...the prevalence of high fructose corn syrup is the result of Big Government subsidies for corn farmers and tariffs on imported sugar, thus I'm just being conservative in opposing corn syrup. Ha!

[Guest Speed Racer]

Next time I go to my Doctor I will ask him. We should all do the same. I'm sure that we will hear a wide variety of stuff.

 

I see my doctor probably once a week, when I go for a long run; we tend to pass each other on our Sunday runs (weight-bearing exercises like that have been proven to strengthen bones - if you don't run, you really should consider it if you plan on living for a while. Frankly, death is just around the corner otherwise).

 

I don't like to go for my long runs on Friday because that's when I grocery shop, and I would hate for the opportunity to miss picking up my calcium rich foods including cheese, spinach, brocolli, beans and oatmeal - all of which I eat at least several times per week along with a women's multivitamin.

 

Everything causes something and helps something else. That's life. Turning up your nose at coffee drinkers might help your sense of self, but doesn't do much for your relations with coffee drinkers.

 

I have an MD and think that coffee is delicious and nutritious.

 

If I retain you with a guaranteed 10 ass-kissing posts per month, will you be my VC attending physician?

[Guest Speed Racer]

And your posts have never dripped of condescension? I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels or thinks that way.

 

Did I say mine didn't?

[ikol]

If I retain you with a guaranteed 10 ass-kissing posts per month, will you be my VC attending physician?

 

As long as you don't take any of my medical advice seriously.

[Guest Speed Racer]

As long as you don't take any of my medical advice seriously.

 

Tell you what: I'll take your medical advice three times more seriously than I take your political stances.