Spawn's dad

who are you again?

That's still the best of the carlos pics to my mind.

Is that what I said? Spawn on the infield of Churchill Downs

Typos by iPhone with love from Steve Jobs.

while it's true old guys do test positive each year, for the most part training time and intensity trump the need for drugs on thus level. There's simply not enough on the line to make it a worthwhile endeavor. It's not like some 45 year old is getting signed to a uci team. A friend if mine did get bumped up at the worlds last year, fro 4th to 3rd, because one of the podium finishers tested positive. I was the number one ranked rider I'm my category last year, and there are enough people here who know me (for real) that I don't really need to blow smoke up my own ass. Still being the faste

BTW, I've followed Armstrong's career before he was even a full time cyclist, and was just a tri geek. I don't watch much on TV, I'm to busy actually doing it. Having participated in high end athletics for 30 years, and raced bicycles for more than 20, one doesn't need to be a genius to survey the landscape of sport and see PED usage is the norm in upper level professional athletics. There's a reason recent most grand tour winners have been enshrouded in controversy. Not even to forget that this usage is repeatedly proven to be systematic through scandals like Puerto, Kohl's revelations, the

gogo we went to Ramsi's. Spawn had the fish tacos and was in all kinds of glory. thanks.

Why do you hate Wilco?

2 year difference. Lance isn't winning anything at 40.

Farve is kind of, err, older. Plus let lance get into the top 10 first.

11:30am on the fourth.

Ok.

My race is actually in Churchill Downs.

In 2008 every tour cyclist was on Cera. And in 2009 every cyclist is using something there isn't a test for yet. Plus Lance did Mashley Olsen which is just freaking creepy. And actually Lance did test positive for EPO, but it was after the fact, and the results weren't designed to catch him but just develop the test for EPO. But if anyone thinks that Lance beat a handful of the best tour cyclists ever, all of whom subsequently were revealed to be doping at the time, merely on his legendary heart size and body's ability to process lactic acid, I'd say in a word you're delusional. The Chu

That Ramsi's place looks pretty awesome. I'm kinda excited to spend a holiday weekend in KY. Which feels kind of wrong to say

Spawn and I are on the road to Louisville for a race weekend. Any suggestions on places to go, things to do or eat (that kid loves to eat)? E-Sue suggested Lynn's Paradise Cafe. Anything else we should be should to do while there for a few days?

Do you suppose the ancient greeks appreciated their art at the time? Maybe we should shun Michael Jackson and let some future generation appreciate him? And back to A-Man's point I'm still disturbed by the idea that if the kid was 15 and a girl it probably wouldn't be met with sure ire.

Yeah. so where's the tipping point with age & gender?

Cheers solace rempish I'm on my iPhone posting while on the phone with isadorah and alleged is hard to type

Sigh. What was socially acceptacle in an ancient society is a bit irrelevant. We've also managed to evolve since the civil war and have even given women rights. This isn't that though. This is discussing what is devivant behavior. I don't necessarily think there's anything wrong with liking his music though I can't imagine discussing his life without a heavy emphasis on his being a deviant.

Calm down.

I don't get what we're disagreeing about. You're obfuscating. OK, you think the parents did a bad thing. I already said more rational people might choose a different course of action from start to finish. That doesn't alter whether he diddled little boys or not. Because someone lets you do something illegal doesn't suddenly make it ok.

Tolerance? I'm sure you're going for shock value, but ok, I'll bite. So should we be tolerant of Phil Spector? I'm pretty sure fame helped OJ get off. There are few acts, I believe, as reprehensible as the abuse of a child. That our penalties aren't stiffer continues to astound me. And no Solace, I didn't get your point, but that's because I don't think you wrote what you intended to. You clearly wrote that the kid's parent weren't looking out for his well being by accepting the cash, and not pursuing the legal means of getting the creep off the street. If we can't know or assume what w

Yes, it would forego the welfare of other children, but not necessarily their own; which is what your earlier post said. In any case, large sums of money and good decisions don't frequently go hand in hand.

Again, I think one would really need to weigh harming the child further by dragging him into a trial and all that. Still, like I said, I think they were screwed up for letting him have sleep overs there, so they were whacked from the get go. Taking money to move past something as worse than molesting a kid? I don't know, man, that's a pretty heavy statement. With a young child I'm not sure how his welfare is being looked after if his abuser is put in jail. I'm not a child psychologist but I'm not sure the child's mind works that way. I would see it more as punitive and preventive to society.