phish907

The band member I called laptop guy in 2002 because I didn't know who he was

Made me ask myself what the F??K I was listening to, when I turned 14 and was introduced to The Grateful Dead and The Doors, wow did I get lucky

Continued my love for Jeff Tweedy music following the demise of my all time favorite band Uncle Tupelo, seriously I was crushed for months after UT said goodbye.

My initial reaction to most of the album was, "eh. It's got a few good songs, but no bigee." Now, after about 30 or 40 listens I really love it. The only song I'd ditch is Suck It Up or Stick It Out or whatever that piece of crap is. I've tried listening to it countless times with the intent of letting it grow on me. And it has. Like a nasty fungus. It just sounds like a crappy Grateful Dead knockoff.

 

I do think however that this album shows the need for an outside producer. The thing that took YHF to the next level was bringing in Jim O'Rourke (although I guess he was doing the mixing more than anything.) It seems like they need someone who isn't as close to the music as they are to come in and offer an outside perspective on how what they are trying to say is coming across to those they are trying to say it to, and not to alter the band's intent but rather to help focus it.

I have been a huge Dead fan for many years I cannot draw any comparisons to The Dead and "Shake it Off" at all. Are you sure you are listening to that one? I personally think O'Rourke would have ruined SBS. Didn't he initally mix it and Jeff didn't like it? I like O'Rourke but I am so glad he really wasn't a part of SBS.

Was the last we heard of Leroy, where the hell is Leroy today anyhow?

The reworked version of Sunken Treasure with Nels on lap steel is excellent, it was a total surprise at what I consider a very average Indy show at Murat. I also really love Side with the seeds and You are my Face. Overall however, the shows except for the NY run were actually disappointing. Again, just my opinion.

If you'd like to hear the band at the peak of their country/blues/roots influenced songwriting: American Beauty and Workingman's Dead

If you'd like to hear the band showing off their most intricate and musically complex work: Blues For Allah

If you'd like a pschedelic taste of what they were doing in the late 60's that inspired a lifetime of devotion from so many: Live Dead

 

The Dead are still the most misunderstood and unfairly dismissed band of all time. Forget their fans and whatever images you conjure up when hearing the word "Deadhead". Forget what you think they should sound like. Just listen to the music: the ups, the downs, the timeworn tales of misbegotten gamblers and shadowy outcasts, the hurtling blues squall of the early days, the majestic group dynamics of something like "Terrapin Station", and the ethereal, often inhuman strangeness found in the midsts of an epic "Dark Star" or "Playing In the Band". You won't like all of it, and not every jam is a revelation. There's an element of risk with the Dead that makes them addicting. It's completely unfair and wildly inaccurate to callously dismiss them as aimless hippie noodlers.

Amen to everything said here

It is a very legit pointabout the use of energy at these huge festivals. Does anyone know if there was any effort made to be green,I would certainly think so or all this would be of a hypocritical move?

Took me the longest to digest. Like the previous post states, a bit uneven but I think it is beautiful.

Thanks so much for the setlist.

yup...exactly.Bringing Down the Horse had some mighty good songs on it.....then entire album??.....and some of the other albums were okay.LouieB

Just wondering if anyone would be kind enough to update if possible?

He was a leader at rallying people at the work camps during the depression era, he was a early leader for workers rights in the United States. While not the greatest family man or father, he was indeed a revolutionary, even by the most modest standards.

how about you do it? you lead. why wait for someone else to do it?

I do what I can do I must admit, I would love to see someone with a respected voice (Jeff just as an example not really who I think should step forard) would be heard just a little louder than my voice and actions. I am just asking where are the respected people to lead the way on the front lines?

After watching" Man in The Sand" for about the 60th time it dawned on me where is the voice of our time? The voice of our generation? Where are the people who will really make a stand against what is really going on? I am 35 years old and I don't feel like I have done enough? Jeff's words as well as Billy Bragg 's really struck me? They and us could make a difference right now. Look inside yourself and see what is really happening. The only difference between 1965 and now are the voices. We are under the same type of administration and lies as then. Please listen up. I do not feel ashmaed to write this. Where is our voice at? The concept of "Man in The Sand" rings more true today as ever before, Where are we at today? I know I have opened myself up to much criticism, but I don't care , please Jeff or anyone please lead the way, where are we at today? Where are the people who give a shit? We have not been heard,I know there are like minded people out there, WE ARE NOT BEING HEARD, WHERE ARE WE? THIS HAS TO BE STOPPED!!!!!!!! I AM SICK OF HEARING PEOPLE DIE FOR WHAT??????????????????????????????????????????

Oh phish, I think you are missing out. Remember this was when Glenn first joined the band,

so I always think of this as Jeff's homage to Glenn, even if it was written before he joined or by

someone else.

Being a huge fan I have tried many times to get with it. It even reminds me of growing up. I am around the age of Jeff, so I feel I can relate to where he is coming from with the lyrics, I just don't like the tune and it is always an excuse to go the bathroom when its played live. With that being said my daughter has always loved it.

got it in 2002, but it took me until 2004 to come fully around to it and fall in love with it (and the band). now, it's one of my favorite albums and Wilco is probably my secnod favorite musical artist. after all this time, the only thing that has changed is that i really don't like "Heavy Metal Drummer." every other songs stirs my soul, but that one does nothing for me...

 

-justin

I always skip over HMD, love the cd, just don't see its place on it!!

Wasn't as groundbreaking to me as everyone thought,although I loved it from the first spin.

For my money the early 70's were the best GD has ever been. Not to say I don't love almost every chapter of the band, just I am partial to the sound from that period.

Fits in very nicely with this period of my life, gives me hope.

Today my favorite lyric is: embracing the situation is our only chance to be free.

 

Yesterday my favorite lyric was: would you and I be undefeated by agreeing to disagree.

 

Tomorrow it will probably be something different. I love the lyrics on this album.

Great quote, I find myself getting lost in the lyrics of a different SBS song almost everyday. There may be less wordplay on SBS, but I just like the directness of most of the lyrics.

I don't know much about poetry, I just really dig Jeff's lyrics! SBS is awsome

Happy 4th to you! Sorry if I called you out too harshly...if so, it was mostly out of a collective frustration caused by several other posts (not just yours). If there is a common theme to all the debate over this issue, it is that we all feel a passionate connection to Wilco and their music. Unfortunately, that passion can sometimes get the better of our emotions, and that's when the gloves come off! I certainly agree that there are more important issues/problems in the world today. Anyway, no hard feelings and enjoy the holiday! If you're ever in Chicago and our paths cross, first round is on me!

No hard feelings here at all. I just needed to retract a few things. VC has always been a very positive experience for me. I always enjoy the opinions here on the board.

MY OFFICAL APOLOGY TO THE COMMUNITY

I have been posting here and a part of Via Chicago for a long time. I shouldn't have gotten so out of line with my posts. I do realize this is a community board with all of us sharing one common interest here WILCO, the greatest rock band around. My posts were out of line and I do apologize for anyone who I may have offended with them. After all we are talking about a commercial here. With all the issues and problems in the world today, this little subject just does not ad up. I hope to have stronger communication with all involved in the future. Sincerely, my words are for real. Everyone has an opinion and it is their right to let it be known. I travel to many Wilco shows around the country and I have had excellent experiences with VC members in the past. I am looking forward to the same in the future. Happy 4th everyone.

lolz

...If you don't love America then get the hell out......If you aren't with us then you're against us...Is it wrong that I laughed at the screen name of this poster and said to myself..."ah, that makes sense"? Yes, it is wrong. I take it back...I take it all back. (turning off the TV now)