Bart
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If "Please Tell My Brothers" isn't on there (and it isn't) the entire list is invalid.
And while I love "Misunderstood", I don't think it's in the top 10. "I'll Fight" isn't even in the top 10 of the album!
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I agree with the "hearing it live" crowd. It really comes alive when you hear it live!!
Now can someone tell me what the hell this song is about?!?!? Who are the spiders? What is kidsmoke?!!?
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Does anyone know how Jeff plays the main riff in We've Been Had? The riff itself is pretty easy, but when he plays it, he also plays the G chord and the riff all at the same time. How do he do it??
And since I couldn't find the chords in here, I thought I'd post this. Most of it is stollen from the internets but I added a few transition chords during the verses that were not included in the versions that I found. I think it sounds better this way.
The format is messed up and the chords don't align properly. I tired to use the [/code] thing to make it right, but it didn't work. The original font was Arial, so perhaps if you cut and paste it and change the font to Arial, it will look better(?)
WE'VE BEEN HAD – Uncle Tupelo (Jeff Tweedy) Riff G C G e|--------------------------------| B|--------------------------------| G|3---4-3-4-3-4-3-4-2-0-----------| D|----------------------2-0-2-----| A|--------------------------------| E|--------------------------------| My version: G C G e|--------------------------------| B|--------------------------------| G|3---4-3-4-3-4-3-4-2-0--0--------| D|--------------------------------| A|--------------------------------| E|--------------------------------| SOME CHORDS G G/F# Em7 e|-3----3-----3----------| B|-3----3-----3----------| G|-0----0-----0----------| D|-0----0-----2----------| A|-2----2-----2----------| E|-3----2-----0----------| Intro GGGG Riff (4 times) C G There's a guitar leaning C G On a Marshall stack C C/B Am G Used to sound like a sun on the horizon D C G Riff (2 times) CC G Now I think, we've been had C G There's a young girl screaming C G All the way in the back C C/B Am G Poor kid, she never saw it coming D C G Riff (2 times) CC G Now she knows, she's been had Bridge G B7 Watchin your labels, spinnin on my turntable Em Em7 There's no call waiting, in my head phones C E And every star that shines, in the back of my mind Am C G Riff (2 times) CC G Just waiting for its cover to be blown C G There's a eardrum bleeding C G Yeah, it's in my head C C/B Am G How could I still be, so in love D C G Riff (2 times) CC G When I know, we've been had Bridge G B7 Republicans and democrats, can’t give you the facts Em Em7 Your parents won't tell you 'till you're grown C E And every star that shines, in the back of your mind Am C G Riff (2 times) CC G Is always waiting for its cover to be blown Riff (2 times) CC G G B7 Flashing their badges just like the law of averages Em Em7 Nobody likes ‘em where they’re from C E And every star that hides on the back of the bus Am C G Is just waiting for its cover to be blown Riff (2 times) CC GPS -
The cut and paste and convert to Arial does work to get the chords in the right places.
Corrections and additions are welcome........and help with the riff!!! ;-)
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Unless they're playing with Bob Dylan, give me a Wilco only show!
I like the 2 sets idea.....or maybe 3......6 or 8 opening songs, then 10 or 12 acoustic songs (full band or solo), then 12 more songs and a couple encores. That's not too much to ask, is it?
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I had a good time last night and did record the show. To my knowledge I was the only one. The previous comments about the sound were pretty accurate. It is a boomy room with poor acoustics and it is reflected in the recording. Stan did a great job and after the first two songs, he got it sounding better, but it is just not an ideal venue for music. All that said, it is very listenable and besides, there weren't be any other sources! The torrent can be found on etree:
Nice!!! That didn't take long at all. Can't wait to hear it.
Thanks for taping. I used to tape all the time and sometimes still do......it's a lot of work, so thanks again.
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I like the appearance of "I'm Always In Love" recently.
And Theologians!
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The Wolftrap show was sold out for weeks (months?) prior to the show and there were tickets available outside. Don't know if there were a lot or what they were going for, but I saw a couple of guys trying to get rid of extras.
I'd give it a shot. Get there early.
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...did anyone get a good recording of what Wilco did play... I know I saw some people with booms and mics... anything good??? any torrents up yet??
I'm wondering the same thing about the Wolftrap show. I know that one was taped but I haven't seen a torrent yet. They seem to be coming out relatively slowly in the age of instant gratification.
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So why was the show called off? Was the band getting wet too? I figured they would be under cover.
If it was called off just becasue the crowd was getting wet, that's a crime! I remember being at a Dead show in 1990 where it started raining very hard during the first set, but no biggie because the band was playing and we were all rocking out. It was a whole different story when the set ended and they took a break and we had to stand there for 40 minutes in the pouring rain. That wasn't so great, but once you were completely soaked to the bone and embraced the rain, it wasn't so bad. One of the greatest shows I ever seen too!
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I drove, but it took almost an hour (54 minutes, to be precise) to get out of the parking lot. I'm going to the NSO/John Williams show in a few weeks, and I might want to try alternative transportation.
I got out in seconds, but I started to make my way out of the orchestra pit during I'm A Wheel and as soon as they said that's all the time they had, I sprinted to the car.
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I was inside on the left side (facing the stage) about half way back and everyone around me and everyone I could see stood up for the entire show. I figured when they played "At Least That's What You Said" that everyone would sit down but they didn't. Yeah!
As far as the comment goes about Jeff making so few comments......I thought he was as talkative as usual. At one point he said, "This song is the most requested song EVER on our website. 36 of you are going to be very happy" Then they played "How To Fight Loneliness". After it was over during the applause, he said, "That sounds like 36 people" (clapping).
Later in the show he commented about "the people down there with writing on their shirts". Then he said, "What? There's no "F" in Wilco" Then there was some shuffling around and the group stood on their chairs and Jeff read their shirts and they spelled out, "Wilco (The Fans)" Pretty clever I thought. He also said the last time they played here they opened for Natalie Merchant. The program said that was 9 years ago.
For me the highlight was "Hate It Here". It was the most powerful and rockin tune of the night and also seemed to be the one that the crowd reacted to the most. The lights (all night long) were very cool. During the chorus they shined bright lights out on the crowd so you could see everyone going nuts. It was a cool effect. Also during this song Jeff grabbed a towel and wiped the sweat out of his hair and off his face and then sang a verse with the towel drapped over his head and face. That'd be a good picture if anyone had a camera.
I agree with what everyone said about the rushed ending and the curfew. The encore songs seemed very fast with no pauses at all between them. They should have started at 7:30 or scrapped the opening act.
Anyhow, great show, loads of fun.
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Don't know if there are cabs waiting after the show, but I have seen buses there. I have no idea where they go though.....probably the Vienna Metro station. Try calling Wolf Trap or check the website
Check this link:
http://www.wolftrap.org/Home/Plan_Your_Visit/Access_by_Metro.aspx
Please note that service is available for all summer performances except the International Children’s Festival at the Filene Center and Wolf Trap Opera Company performances at The Barns.
The Wolf Trap Express Bus, operated by Fairfax Connector, provides round-trip bus service from the West Falls Church-VT/UVA Metrorail Station (Orange Line) to Wolf Trap for Filene Center performances.
Schedules and Fares
•Service begins 2 hours prior to show time.
•Express Bus service runs in 20 minute intervals until performance time.
•Returning, the bus leaves Wolf Trap 20 minutes after the performance ends or no later than 11 pm.
•Round-trip fare is $3.10 (exact change is required).
•Use your Metro fare card for a 10¢ discount.
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Bart was nothing if not entertaining.
Thank you very much. I'd like that quote inscribed on my tombstone.
PS - nice picture of La Malk!
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I don't mean to nitpick, but they did not play on the roof at Abbey Road.
How about, "the roof of Abbey Road studios"? Isn't that where they played?
And I think your above statement was the figurative definition of "nitpick".
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I said I was going to stop and here I am again. Sorry.
But up until the moment srmt posted in this thread, the shows were being distributed. They were available for free and easy download. And (some) people were still resentful.I can't defend people being resentful if they could listen to the show but just not attend. Those people sound like dickheads.
Jealous? Sure, but not resentful. I'm jealous of some of my neighbors who's wives don't have to work (mine does), and take 3 or 4 fantstic vacations a year (I don't), and drive cars made this decade (I don't), but I'm not resentful. I'm jealous of the people that attended any of these shows, I'm jealous of the people who get to see acoustic Tweedy shows, I'm jealous of the people who saw the Beatles play on the roof at Abbey Road, but to resent any of them would be retarded.
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The logic behind whether or not they should be distributed really doesn't matter.
Jeff wants them to be private...then that's how it should be.
I hear you and I get it. I really do.
Changing gears slightly:
But sometimes artists don't make the best decisions regarding their art. I'm not saying that's the case here, but since your name is "Shakespeare In The Alley", think about the Bob Dylan catalog......he didn't release BLIND WILLIE MCTELL on the album he recorded it for (Infidels I think). We had to wait for the Bootleg Series to hear it. A lot of people think it's the best song he's written since Blonde on Blonde and he removed it from the album! Think about your favorite bands and the songs they didn't put on the original albums. You hear these songs years later on some retrospective or official bootleg and they blow the stuff on the album away. This is the case for many of my favorite bands, including Wilco. I think of song like "The Ruling Class". I love it. It's catchy as hell, it has weird and wonderful lyrics. All Wilco fans should hear it, but it's not on the new record. I was bummed when I saw the track list. Yes, I know it's on the Tweedy DVD and yes I know the real Wilco freaks have heard it for years, but I'm thinking about the casual fan who buys the records, sees the show when they're in town but doesn't collect recordings or surf the web for Wilco stuff. This guy misses out.
Oh well, I'm blathering on. I'm going to try to stop.
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So why do the Living Room Shows elicit resentment?
I think it's the "non-distribute" rule.
I wasn't around in real time in the run up or following any of these shows, so I no nothing about any of these comments:
"you're dicks for bragging about this" or "you're dicks for spending that much money and then singing right over the top of Tweedy" or "you're all creepy for wanting that much personal contact"But it's easy for me to see how fans in San Diego or Maine who live these shows vicariously through this board could get resentful. They hear all the build up, they hear about travel arrangments and fans meeting fans for the first time, they see an amazing set list, they read rave reviews, they hear people talking about the recordings and they start counting down the days until they'll be able to hear a copy. Then they get the word that they won't be allowed to hear this stuff. Ever. That would be a crushing blow.
Can you imagine if you were a huge Picasso fan and you learned 10 new paintings had just been discovered and you go to your favorite Art fourm, Via Picasso, where other art geeks were raving about the new paintings, only to find out that you weren't allowed to see them? You could only read about how amazing the painting are but not see them. If I were a Picasso fan, that would make me crazy. And resentful.
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The funny thing about the whole "elitism" argument is that if show attendees never shared anything online - didn't share any pictures or setlists at all - nobody else would know they'd even taken place. Do you know who was at my house this week? Nope.
Well that's the problem with people. It's very, very hard to not share certain things....with like minded fans for instance.
What do they say about secrets?......If you really want to keep a secret, don't tell ANYONE. And if you really don't want something circulated, don't allow it to be taped. I'm not arguing my case anymore, just commenting on human nature.
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srmt is sue miller, also known as jeff's wife.
Really?!?! Cue Johnny Carson voice: "I did not know that." Like I said, I'm not hip to the actual names behind the screen names. Apologies for bringing this up then.
I respectfully disagree with the idea of certain shows being only accessable to certain people, but if them's the rules, them's the rules.
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Considering how intimate, and personal these shows are, I don't see why they would appeal to people who wasnn't there.
I'm assuming you haven't heard these shows.
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Another quote:
"What I am saying is that all that has happened in this thread is that someone from the Wilco camp stated, "No, the line you think is 'here' is actually here," and most of us said, "Oops!" and hopped back a few steps."
Did that actually happen? I'm not familiar with screen names and who's who in here. Who's the person from the Wilco camp?
If that happened, I get it. We should toe the line and play by the rules. I just didn't think/know that happened. I figured it was a bunch of Wilco fans carrying on.
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Quote 2:
"Off the bat, Jeff said no to circulation of these shows, there was a miscommunication where people thought otherwise, and now it's resolved. They were never supposed to be available to everyone, so no one has been 'denied' anything. No one got anything taken away from them. They allow fans access to, what, 99.1% of Wilco's world, and you're complaining about 0.9% Really?"
I'm unclear on who said what to whom. If you read this thread there are various points of view representing all sides of the arguement. To me it's all a bunch of internet chatter. Maybe one of the above statements is the gospel truth, but I don't know which one it is.
Forgetting all that, I really question idea that Jeff would play a show that he knew was taped and then expected those recording to not be circulated beyond an elite little group. It seems counter productive in many ways. One, it breeds a class system within the fans....."Only I am important enough to hear this, not you peasant". Two, the recordings themselves are advertisments for future shows that will continue to benefit the charity. Shit, I'm thinking about putting a portion of my paycheck into a separate account to stockpile funds for the next goround of Living Room Shows.
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Forgive me for not knowing how to quote your message, but you wrote:
"Wilco is flippin' generous. Really flippin' generous. Ridiculously, unnecessarily generous.
Read that part again."
Point 1: Dude, I agree that they are generous and cool and fan friendly and all that, but if they pulled all that generosity back, in reality not much would change. People would still tape shows, people would still trade shows. That's just reality in today's world. Recorders and mics are so small that you would have to strip search people to ensure they didn't bring those things into shows. Bob Dylan does not allow taping but all his shows are taped by multiple sources and and are usually available within 24 hours of the performance. That's just life in 2009.
Point 2: Their generosity does more to help them than to hurt them. By allowing taping and trading they build a fan base at no cost to the band. These fans then come buy tickets to the shows and also buy albums. The Grateful Dead built a HUGE following simply by allowing the taping and trading of their shows. They never had a radio hit but would sell out Madison Square Garden for 6 shows in a row every fall. They were highest grossing live band every year from 90 - 95 and it was all due to great live shows and great live tapes.
I'm not trying to say that the only reason that Wilco allows taping is to line their pockets, but I think it ultimately helps them in every way. Remember YHF? At the time it was their best selling album, yet it was available for free download for what, 2 years before it came out? The kind of generosity we're talking about makes money for the band, it doesn't take money from the band.
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I think I'll respond in a couple of different posts because you seem to be attacking me on a couple different fronts.
Glad It's Over
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Hey everyone, here's an update to what I posted above. I changed the original tab a bit to make it better(?). I think it sounds more accurate anyway.
I tired to do the "[ code ]" thing and it didn't work, so the format is messed up. If you cut and paste this into MS Word and then change the font to "Arial", the chords should be in the proper location.
Enjoy!
Glad Its Over - Wilco Album: Heroes soundtrack Intro Verse: Dm Em Dm Em I don't feel bad, I don't feel lonely, Dm F G C C C I'm just glad it's over. Verse 1: C I don't need your love, I don't want it, Heaven is up above F Dm C And I'm upon it without you, without you. C I don't want to kiss you again, can you believe it? F Dm I don't want to be your friend I just want you out of my life Dm C C C > C# > Dm Until my life ends, oh yeah. Chorus: Dm Em Dm Em I don't feel bad, I don't feel lonely, Dm F G I'm just glad it's over. C I know you think I'm weak, I'll tell you something, F Dm C It's better we don't speak, I got nothing to say to you, anyway. C I've said what I meant to put it mildly; I hate you 100 per cent, F Dm C C > C# > Dm I mean that kindly, oh, you're not for me, not for me Chorus: Dm Em Dm Em Dm Em C C C C > C# > Dm I don't feel bad, you're not the only one I ever had. Dm Em Dm Em Dm Em G G I don't feel sad, I don't feel lonely, not even sorry, G I'm just glad it's over. Bridge: F Dm Am Am7 F Dm I'm not playing with you, you're just getting your due Am Am7 Eb* C G Oh, it's true, it's true, I'm just glad it's over. Mini Verse: C Oh I'm sorry I ran, I didn't mean it, let's get back where we began F Dm C C C C# Dm Stop screaming I want you back in my arms every day, after today Final Chorus: Dm Em Dm Em Dm F G C C C C C# Dm Don't feel bad, you know I'm sorry, just be glad it's over Dm Em Dm Em Dm F G C C C C C# Dm Don't feel sad, we all have to be lonely, just be glad it's over Dm Em Dm Em Dm F G C C C C C# Dm Oh oh oh, oh oh oh oh oh, I'm just glad it's over Dm Em Dm Em Dm F G C C C C C# Dm Oh oh oh, oh oh oh oh oh, oh oh, I'm just glad it's over Dm Em Dm Em Dm F G C C C C C# Dm Oh oh oh, oh oh oh oh oh, I'm just glad it's over