Bart

Allowing public recording/dissemination of the living room shows would fundamentally alter the interaction between Jeff and the audience, and thus the experience of the group of fans who paid several hundred dollars each to attend the shows.

I get it, but on the other hand wouldn't it suck if just a few insiders got to look at the Mona Lisa.  Great art should be spread far and wide.

I love the idea of these shows (even if it wasn't for charity).  The idea of a "famous rockstar" doing a tiny show that's one step above sitting on the porch and playing for friends is beyond fantastic.  But the way they are executed smacks of classism or the cool kids vs the dorks or the haves and the have nots.  It seems like the exact opposite of the Wilco ethos.

Being excluded from the president's national security briefing is understandable.  Being excluded from listening to someone I love/respect/admire, not to mention fund by buying cds, dvds, books, shirts, concert tickets, etc. sucks.

 

I'm inclined to believe that Bart meant that the money could be additional money for the charity.

 

You are correct sir!  I wasn't thinking that Jeff would pad his pockets with this money, I was thinking it's a way to exponentially increase the amount of money the charity received.

 These events raise over 100K every year which helps a lot of families. And Jeff takes 4 Saturday nights out of his year to do these for 30 whacko Wilco fans. All of this is important to remember.

Are the powers that be still adhering to the misguided policy of not allowing recordings of these shows to be shared?

I get it, they can make any rule they want, but if they want to make some real money they should sell copies of these shows.  Failing that, the should allow some of us non-insiders to hear them.

This is not a knock on Wilco albums, but I find myself listening to the couple of Living Room Shows much more Frequently than any album or any live show (Tweedy or Wilco).  There's something special about these shows that you don't get anywhere (both song selection and banter).  I think of them as some of the greatest performances Jeff has done and would love to hear and pay for more.

Maybe I'm alone in the regard, but I doubt it.  I bet there some decent amount of money to be made by selling discs or downloads of these shows.

A great song that needs to be tabbed out.  Sadly, I don't have the skills to do it.

To my tin ear, it sounds like it's in an alternate tuning.  Hopefully I'm wrong, but if it is in an alternate tuning, can someone try to figure it out (or a close approximation) in standard tuning?

Please?

Anyone know these guys?

I heard their song "If I Loved You" on Sirius the other day and it blew me away.

Here's Bottom of the River from Conan.  It's got an old time spitiual vibe and Conan seems genuinely floored:

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Not sure why that video doesn't pop up, but here's the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZhapdCuX7M

Not sure why the link is not highlighted either.

Me not so good on the interwebs.

Thanks folks!  More orders will be placed.

Is there a consensus on the greatest Tom Waits album?  I know it's an impossible question but I'm asking it anyhow!

I need to broaden my Tom Waits horizons and I'm looking for suggestions.

I have Rain Dogs which I love and I used to have have Nighthawks At The Diner which I can no longer find.  Based on "Wilco Me" in another thread, I'm all set to buy Heart Attack and Vine and Small Change.

Are there any other must haves that I need to have?

No, that one is a web extra.

Thanks! I'm blocked from youtube type broadcasts at work so I couldn't check it myself.

Was Laminated Cat broadcast on the show or just some "backstage" thing? I happened to be randomly, briefly concious last night and saw them do Art Of Almost, but thought the show ended right after that. Did it, or did I fall back asleep and miss the second song?

I'm a bit surprised at the late start time considering they have an opening act. Too late to do anything about it now, but in retrospect, they maybe should have had showtime listed as 7:00 or 7:30 to give the opener and headliner time to do their thing.

Very fun show last night. The crowd seemed really into it and remained standing for nearly all of the show. At least where I was (row f, right side). The only time people sat down was during One Sunday Morning. Not bad for a bunch of old farts.

It got up to 100 degrees yesterday, but Jeff still came out in a black shirt, black jacket and big hat. He must have been dying of the heat.

Regarding the curfew, it was kind of funny. At one point about an hour into the show, Jeff said something like, "Don't worry, we have plenty of time" The next few times he spoke he said, "We're running out of time"!!!!

The highlight for me was the one-two punch of Too Far Apart and I'm Always In Love. I hadn't seen the first one before and it's been a while since I've seen the second.

It'll be interesting to see what they do tonight. I'm hoping for no repeats!

Lee - started at about five till eight and played about 35-40 mins

Wilco started a little before 9 and ended a little before 11. But Jeff made a few comments on how they were running out of time, so I wouldn't be surprised if everything moved up a bit tomorrow

Wow! Thank you! Lightbulb goes off over my head.

I was trying to play the Dm at "Of" instead of putting the Bm there. Makes all the difference in the world!

Thanks so much for breaking it down for me.

Thanks Andrew!

Maybe you can help me place the chords in the "maybe you noticed" part? Where do you put the chords for this part:

Dm A Dm

Of anything that I've done

Is it:

Of any[Dm]thing[A] that I've [Dm]done ?

That's the part that is throwing me. I can't seem to make it sound right.

Thanks again.

Anyone have any thoughts or updates on this?

I've got the verse part down, but I can't make the chorus sound right (the "Maybe you've noticed I'm not ashamed" part)

Do those chords work for that part?

A far better Dylan cover album in my opinion is the "I'm Not There" soundtrack. There are some really original cover versions on there.

Blood On The Tracks is a phenomenal record.

 

What is somewhat more devastating is the accompanying bootleg, Blood On The Tapes. 'Up To Me' is probably one of Dylan's most heart wrenching (unreleased) songs.

 

I've always loved this song too. The verse that floors me is:

I met somebody face to face, I had to remove my hat.

She's everything I need and love but I can't be swayed by that.

It frightens me, the awful truth, of how sweet life can be.

But she ain't gonna make a move,

I guess it must be up to me.

Poor tortured Bob! He met someone who is EVERYTHING he needs and loves, yet he still can't be swayed by it/her. And he's frightened by the "awful truth" of how sweet life can be! How do you come up with a line like that?!?!? He's terrified by the prospect of being happy and in love! Burtal. Brilliant, and brutal.

Pecan Pie?

You get a gold star. You're trying to improve the situation for those around you.

I don't think "entitled" means what you think it means.

You're right, by the defination. I meant it as an "entitlement". As in:

"Certain people feel their right to stand outweighs other people's right to see."

But I'm not sure why this sentence isn't right:

"Certain people feel they are entitled to stand with no regard to the people around them."

What if you are 6'6"?

 

Does that mean you are forbidden from standing?

Not at all. But if you're 6'6" and have seats in the first few rows, and refuse to sit down when the 4'9" person behind you asks you to, you are well within your rights to do so, but it may be a sign that you're a self absorbed, entitled, jerk. See your doctor immediately.

Agreed! I can't believe some people don't like it.

Who wants to post the chords? I'd do it myself, but sadly, I'm incapable.

this was not supposed to be a "sit vs stand" thread. it was meant to be a "you're a f'ing idiot for asking the usher to make someone sit down at a rock concert" thread

Try to look at it from their point of view. They paid good money for good seats for a good view of the band. They didn't pay to stare at your back. Also, like it or not a large portion of the Wilco crowd is older and mellower than you probably are. Combine that with the fact that a lot of Wilco songs are very slow and a lot of this tour's songs were not even available before a bunch of the shows were played and it's not surprising that lots of people are sitting.

For the most part, I'll stand for the entire show, but if the people in front of me are sitting and the people behind me are sitting, I won't stand. I get too self conscious and can't enjoy the show because I know I'm ruining their show.

I think the bottom line is, it doesn't matter, that's just how it goes.

 

It's just just a formality, people who listen to wilco know the band is more than just Tweedy, but technically they are Jeff's songs so that's just the way it goes

Well, it does sort of matter since the person with the song writing credit is the one who gets paid.

I think Jeff is one of the most genuine and endearing figures in the music industry today and I've had the pleasure of meeting him a few times, and he doesn't strike me as someone who would insist on his name being the only one credited.

Maybe it wasn't Jeff. Maybe Tony M insisted on it. I have no clue on the inner working of it all, but it's probably safe to assume that Tony has cart hooked up to the Tweedy horse and while he's concerned about the others and the band as a whole, all of them can come and go except for Jeff. That sounds harsh but that's life in the world of business.

Just one person's very uninformed speculation.