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KINGPIN!
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Wilco-YHF
The Beatles-Rubber Soul/Revolver
Replacements-Tim
Velvet Underground-Velvet Underground
Big Star- #1 Record/ Radio City
Radiohead-OK Computer
UT-Anodyne
Silver Jews-Bright Flight
NMH-Aeroplane Over the Sea
Tom Waits-Mule Variations
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this one's up there too
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Thanks for the ideas, eveyone. I'm going ahead with the project although people seem to have some reservations about whether BT is "meta-music". As jimjiminy says, it definitely contains elements of metafiction and I think I have a sort of roguh idea for a thesis. Something along the lines of "As a piece of meta-music, Being There challenges the line separating rock star from fan, as well as the line separating innovation from infleunce. Ultimately, these ostensibly opposite entities are dependent on each other."
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I'd seriously consider The Stage Names by Okkervil River. That might help you out a great deal.
Or cop out, and use "Halloween Head" by Ryan Adams. Or just the part where he screams "Guitar solo!" I like to think that song is meta, because if it is, it's acceptably cheesy.
I was thinking about The Stage Names too. I'm less familiar with the lyrics and not sure I get al the references though.
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So im in an English class called Metafiction that focuses on fiction that's "aware" that it's fiction. Examples of this include "The Princess Bride", "Six Characters in search of an Author", "Scream", "Slaughterhouse Five", "Atonement"; these are all pieces of fiction that comment on themselves in some way. Often they contain overt references to other works of fiction ("Scream" constantly references other horror movies), the author makes appearances in his/her own novel, and they constantly remind you that you are reading a book or watching a film.
As an assignment for the class, I have to analyze a pice of Meta-Art and do a presentation on it for the class. The first thing that popped into my head was Being There. The album has many obvious musical influences and references to other music. The "guitar player" line in Misunderstood lifted from "amphetamine". The "Rebel Rebel" riff in Monday. The "Norwegian Wood"-esque guitar part in "Someone else's Song". The Sonic Youth-inspired atonal section of Sunken Treasure. In addition, the album is constantly commenting on itself as a piece of music. Half the songs on the record are about music istelf, and the process of becoming a rock star. "You still love rock n roll". "CHoo-choo charlie had a pleanty good band". "Some songs we can't afford to play." "Hotel in Arizona made us all want ot feel like stars" "I am so out of tune with you." "I got my name from rock n roll." "Sounds like someone else's song." "i'm just a fan." I think that Being There is meta-music.
Do people have any ideas that could help me form some sort of thesis about Being There as a piece of meta-music? Any lyrical or musical themes people have noticed in the record that they feel are important? Just want to see if people think I might have something here, or if im way off track.
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henneman's guitar playing on this album is phenomenal. Pure country rock bliss. This is possibly my favorite album for playing along with on guitar. also perfect driving music.
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thanks for posting these. I must say though, that no wilco version of GUN can ever live up to the UT version.
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"Beloved, you are my sister, you are my daughter, you are my face; you are me."
So this ties in rather well, considering the context.
yeah, whether or not hes purposefully referencing the book it's definitely expressing the same theme
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Drums- IATTBYH (Wilco) and Won't Get Fooled Again (The Who)
Vocals- Lonesome Suzie (The Band) and Unsatisfied (The Replacements)
Bass- I Want You (The Beatles)
Electric Guitar-KT version of Ashes of American Flags
Acoustic Guitar-The King of Carrot Flowers (Neutral Milk Hotel) /everything by Townes Van Zandt
Piano-Another Man's done Gone (Wilco)
Viola-Heroin (Velvet Underground)
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I don't know if he intentionally took it from this source, but it is in Toni Morrison's "Beloved".
great book. I vaguely remember this line, but i forget the context. When do they say it?
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Go to Ghiradelli Square! And the Haight.
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Too Far Apart and Shot in the Arm rocked so hard that night.
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I think the boys would rather be put in the rock category than the alt rock category, because they've talked about how they find describing their muisc as being "alternative" to be problematic. Even though I despise the grammys I can't help but feel happy that they got nominated.
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That's the only article I've ever read that truly gets to the core of what makes Wilco so great.
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they also chose KT as one of the 25 best live albums ever.
http://www.rollingstone.com/photos/gallery.../photo/8/large/
RS might have some issues but at least they give Wilco their dues.
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And how the hell are the Paul McCartney and Shins albums on there?
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Mirror image, see no damage
See no evil at all
Kewpie dolls and urine stalls
Will be laughed at
The way you're laughed at now
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If I Needed Someone-The Beatles
Videotape-Radiohead
Flightless Bird, American Mouth-Iron and Wine
Take it With Me-Tom Waits
New Age-Velvet Underground
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that has a line from Theologians!
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I'd love too--e-mail me at haon10@yahoo.com
I play guitar and live in Richmond-just fifteen minutes away from Berk. I'm always on the lookout for other wilco fans to jam with. im excited now!
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I've gotta pick mine too, i think ill go with "our love is all of God's money". that line changed my life
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The Shins suck. If Im talking to a girl about music and she starts talking about how much she loves the shins, I know well never work
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I played Romeo my sophomore year and my director had me come up with some songs that I felt represented my character. I chose Heavy Metal Drummer, which beautifully captures the essence of being young and in love. I also think On and On and On, and Exit Music by Radiohead are fitting
(((Blood On The Tracks))) the breakup thread
in Someone Else's Song
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For No One -The Beatles
Pale Blue Eyes-The Velvet Underground
What's the World Got in Store-Wilco
And of course all of Anodyne and A.M.