Littlebear

If I could choose how to be tortured, I'd certainly do.

Now I feel like I need to learn a third language.

Oh, really. A 10 years old girl who never menstruated yet, raped, not worse than for an adult? And I am stupid?

At least you can understand what I meant, you may be less stupid than the others. And I didn't say that attractive women were responsible for rape. Not exactly. I may write in my second language, but I can read better. I could also add twenty lines of nuances to this, something that nobody here, in their first language, feel like doing. I could very well state here that all of the others are fucked-up morons unable to write on the subject.

I feel like a lack of argument. Who's stupid exactly?

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I disagree. Rape is rape, but there are different sorts of rapes, and different sorts of sentences required to these. It's obviously worse to rape a 10 years old girl than a 30 years old one. Unless the 30 years old one is handicaped or something. It's worse to rape with violence than with psychological pressure. And yes, a girl who's been sexually provocative is an attenuating circumstance to me (but I don't say it's been the case with Samantha Gailey). If you claim that girls aren't responsible for provoking rape when they're sexually attractive, then you totally dismiss the power of the s

My point is not to say he should be exempt from the law. My point is : there can be attenuating circumstances to something that appears strictly shocking. Circumstances could have been worse, say, if the girl was 10 years old, if she hadn't posed naked, if the man had been known for raping again or being violent, etc, etc So I repeat it: I don't say at all he should be exempt from the law. But I tend to temper the severe judgement that moralistic people apply to the man and the matter that makes this thread. There is the law, and there is life. Millions of things in life, light or serious,

Not at all. I say there are circumstances that can be avoided between some men and some teens, teens (from 13 to...) being more very young women than children most of the time. Roman Polanski isn't an example of wise person. It's a disturbed artist, all of his movies illustrate it. More than that, if I well understand, they spend a whole day together (or a long afternoon? anyway...). Anything weird can happen in a day. Polanski, more than any other maybe, could pretty much make a movie about that, the complex story of a day (or a few hours), telling the strange relationship of two persons of

Disagreed. Anyway, I don't believe the girl was consentent. But I don't believe she "was afraid of him" either. How a 13 years-old girl should be allowed to follow an adult to his house and pose naked anyway? In my opinion, circumstances count. The most despicable side of Polanski in this matter is having used his status of celebrity to abuse a teen, along with her parents (who must have trusted him - I wonder if they had ever watched his movies...) Apart from that, the media are worse again, as the girl herself will attest later. Whatever you say, it's indeed ALL a matter of circumstan

or a side effect of the sexuality which we can see everywhere in the media and in our society. What does surprise the French more about the US, is the paradoxe between their society and their puritanism, the latter appearing mainly hypocrite.

I've read that on several other sites and read it between the lines here as well. You know, if "he can't get away with it", that means "he should be punished". No? As well as from half of the French people mentionned earlier in this thread, funny to note that those who treat Polanski of "pedophile" are from the worst political side of our country (extreme right winged - the fascist kind, the ultra national front). Well, they certainly hate Polanski's movies anyway. The way they go from the rape of a teen in attenuating circumstances to straight "pedophelia" is simply disgusting. Polanski isn't

Sure. And being put in prison for some years certainly allows to get away with it after. That's what everyone takes as justice in this world. That ridiculous notion of punishment. "to pay the price". Good Lord, as if there was a price to pay. If that is the case, many people are ready to pay the price. In short, to tell what I think, punishment doesn't change anything. I don't care that 76 years old Polanski would be finally put in jail. I sincerely don't care. What irritates me, is the people who want to punish him for the sake of the punishment, and call that *justice*. But that's not

Curiously, I'm more angry at the fact Pinochet lived and died peacefully.

Wasn't it "Maxwell's Silver Hammer"? They were humoring him about "Yesterday" too a few years before, but they had humor and weren't taking themselves too seriously then.

Sure. Thinking of it, I forgot "Yesterday".

It's the first time I read about that.

After "The Inner Light", I'd mention "I'll Get You", "Slow Down" and "I Don't Want to Spoil the Party" In my opinion, you can't find any obscure title from Rubber Soul to Abbey Road, since there're all big classics.

The harm is that I was bored reading it. It's an offense to me. And if you take THIS seriously, then I'll get me some fun at least. To each his own fun.

My vote for the song that deserves to be obscure the most.

no.

The Inner Light

Well, anyone can do the same with short statements about any song. It's essentially pointless. I mean, I think "Drive My Car" is a cool opener, and I was never impressed with "In My Life". Who cares? The fact is that we change of mind with pretty much every listen. Every week, every month, every year. Last time I listened to Abbey Road (two days ago), I favoured the Paul songs, whereas I used to prefer the John ones before.