Moe_Syzlak

Had it tagged wrong in iTunes.

That's the way it is in my ITunes too. Must be the way it auto-fills.

I did this on another forum once (I remember some of the years were disputed, but that is what I have in iTunes):

 

'50s:

 

1950: Miles Davis - Birth of the Cool

1951: Duke Ellington - Uptown

1953: The Quintet - Jazz at Massey Hall

1954: Benny Goodman - BG in HiFi

1955: Barney Kessel - To Swing or Not to Swing

1956: Miles Davis - Cookin'

1957: Thelonious Monk - Thelonious Monk with John Coltrane

1958: Bill Evans - Everybody Digs Bill Evans

1959: Miles Davis - Kind of Blue

 

'60s:

 

1960: John Coltrane - Giant Steps

1961: John Coltrane - My Favorite Things

1962: Dexter Gordon - Go

1963: Grant Green - Idle Moments

1964: John Coltrane - A Love Supreme

1965: Bib Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited

1966: The Beatles - Revolver

1967: Jimi Hendrix - Axis:Bold As Love

1968: The Beatles - The White Album

1969: The Beatles - Abbey Road

Cont'd...

'70s:

1970: Van Morrison - Moondance

1971: Led Zeppelin - IV

1972: Frank Zappa - Waka Jawaka

1973: Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon

1974: Herbie Hancock - Thrust

1975: Bob Dylan - Blood on the Tracks

1976: Stevie Wonder - Songs in the Key of Life

1977: Pink Floyd - Animals

1978: Dire Straits - Dire Straits

1979: Pink Floyd - The Wall

'80s:

1980: Talking Heads - Remain in Light

1981: King Crimson - Discipline

1982: Bruce Springsteen - Nebraska

1983: Meat Puppets - Meat Puppets II

1984: Minutemen - Double Nickels on the Dime

1985: Tom Waits - Rain Dogs

1986: Paul Simon - Graceland

1987: Guns N Roses - Appetite for Destruction

1988: Phish - Junta

1989: Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique

'90s:

1990: Jane's Addiction - Ritual De Lo Habitual

1991: My Bloody Valentine - Loveless

1992: Nirvana - Nevermind

1993: Morphine - Cure for Pain

1994: Jeff Buckley - Grace

1995: Radiohead - The Bends

1996: Beck - Odelay

1997: Radiohead - OK Computer

1998: Elliot Smith - X/O

1999:The Flaming Lips - The Soft Bulletin

'00s:

2000: Radiohead - Kid A

2001: Super Furry Animals - Rings Around the World

2002: The Flaming Lips - Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots

2003: Radiohead - Hail to the Thief

2004: Trey Anastasio - Seis de Mayo

2005: Andrew Bird - Andrew Bird & the Mysterious Production of Eggs

2006: Built to Spill - You In Reverse

2007: Menomena - Friend and Foe

2008 (so far): Cloud Cult - Feel Good Dhosts

I did this on another forum once (I remember some of the years were disputed, but that is what I have in iTunes):

'50s:

1950: Miles Davis - Birth of the Cool

1951: Duke Ellington - Uptown

1953: The Quintet - Jazz at Massey Hall

1954: Benny Goodman - BG in HiFi

1955: Barney Kessel - To Swing or Not to Swing

1956: Miles Davis - Cookin'

1957: Thelonious Monk - Thelonious Monk with John Coltrane

1958: Bill Evans - Everybody Digs Bill Evans

1959: Miles Davis - Kind of Blue

'60s:

1960: John Coltrane - Giant Steps

1961: John Coltrane - My Favorite Things

1962: Dexter Gordon - Go

1963: Grant Green - Idle Moments

1964: John Coltrane - A Love Supreme

1965: Bib Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited

1966: The Beatles - Revolver

1967: Jimi Hendrix - Axis:Bold As Love

1968: The Beatles - The White Album

1969: The Beatles - Abbey Road

I don't think you get Ed or the Southwest. and back to my original point, it still comes down to your definition of "eco-terrorism."

Mmmkay. I "get" Ed enough to know that that sentiment is one with which I disagree. I have lived in the SW for 20 years and had spent plenty of time here prior to moving. I was an environmental studies major at U of Colorado with an emphasis on Western resource management. I am against dams, for example, but don't advocate -- or turn a blind eye -- to those that would illegally demolish them. So if "getting" Ed or the SW requires me to hold that flashlight, I stand by my original sentiment that I disagree with Ed's leanings.

And MY definition of eco-terrorism is the same as the FBI's: "the use or threatened use of violence of a criminal nature against innocent victims or property by an environmentally-oriented, subnational group for environmental-political reasons, or aimed at an audience beyond the target, often of a symbolic nature." I'd say that Ed is at least guilty -- by your own provided quote -- of turning (or being willing to) a blind eye to that sort of thing.

I will add the following though when asked if he was really advocating blowing up a dam he replied "No," but added that "if someone else wanted to do it, I'd be there holding a flashlight." Introduction by Douglas Brinkley in the 2000 edition of the book.

That's kinda a "leaning" in my book.

Well let's just say that to me, his attitudes towards environmentalism sometimes rubbed me the wrong way. I can't remember the quote, but he was known to say things like litter the highway, it's already polluted by the existence of the highway and the aforementioned billboard quote.

awesome. I think you are proving my point.

 

"The most common form of terrorism in the U.S.A. is that carried on by bulldozers and chain saws." Ed

One man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter.

yes it is in response to you. your take on his "eco-terrorism leanings."

Perhaps you're not that familiar with the Monkey Wrench Gang and his quotes such as "Keep America beautiful: grow a beard, take a bath, burn a billboard."

I think Abbey would take serious exception to your choice of words or at least your definitions.

Is that response to me? If so, with which "definitions"?

My first real trip in the Rockies was in this area for two weeks in 1987 and I read this book while there. My first peak in the Rockies was Tukuhnikivats which has a whole chapter dedicated to it. Needless to say, this book means a lot to me. Some of Abbey's eco-terrorism leanings rub me the wrong way, but I do love this book.

I should clarify that it was fans not the band that circulated those flier.

When I saw them in Uniondale, Long Island in 2003 (?) and they played the first Destiny Unbound in who knows how long, I knew it was over. Fans had been begging for that song since as long as I could remember and the band never obliged. It became a long running joke -- what could the crowd do to get them to play it. I even remember one show I was at where, before the show, people were passing out flyers trying to get the crowd to start chanting for it during the set break.

 

You are right -- the bustouts were a signal that the well was dry. I think we discussed it earlier in this thread. Same thing happened in Summer '98 with those random covers.

 

Thanks for the story about the iPods -- didnt know that.

I saw Destiny Unbound many times in the early '90s. It's not that great a tune. I never understood all the clamoring for it. They handed those fliers out at Red Rocks in '96 I think. That was also when they handed out the fliers that asked people to shout "Hood!" after the band says "Harry!" in Harry Hood. That was when I knew it was over.

This probably doesn't help you at all because it is likely more than you are looking to spend, but I LOVE my THD Univalve. It is a great studio/bedroom amp. You can readily switch out tubes for endless tone options and it will dummy load (is that the right terminology?) when not using a speaker so you can o direct to a recording device or headphones without damaging the amp. It sounds phenomenal!

Jesus. someecards.com should design a "Sorry The Dark Knight didn't change your life" card.

I think the idea that fans of the film can't take a bit of criticism is a bit more pathetic.

I first saw them in '83 and while the '80s aren't what I generally turn to for my GD fix, I DO really think the time between Jerry's coma and Brent's death represented golden era for the Jerry Ballads. Songs like Wharf Rat, Black Peter, Stella Blue and Morning Dew really shine IMO. There is a poignancy to Jerry's voice and tons of emotion coming out his guitar during this period. Most people look at the Cornell '77 Morning Dew as the standard-bearer (and I really can't argue with that), but AM Dew was pretty consistently great during this period. I still think Dozin' at the Knick is a great release too.

this is the same type of crap I was talking about in the Dr. Dog thread- again I don't mind snobbery or pretentiousness, but I hate when reviewers go at length to throw punches. It's a god damn Batman movie, not a Nietchzeian exposition on the psychology of the high and lows of society. Using the term overrated when going at lengths to describe how Alan Moore "does The Joker better" is the biggest contradiction of the entire thing-- most comic writers (ESPECIALLY Alan Moore) are overrated in their own right. Expecting some sort of freak of nature-- an entertaining pop culture movie displaying psychological studies and philosophical concerns-- in a PG-13 Batman movie will set you up to write one of those inane, immature-yet-nuanced reviews. Pop culture is lucky to get what it got out of this movie. It could have been much, much, worse.

I think he makes valid points, although I'll reiterate I liked the movie and he clearly didn't. But, comic book movie or not, if you're going to make a complex movie based on complex issues and emotions, they should be well developed and, for me, there wasn't enough development of key plot point, themes and characters. This is not to say it is bad movie, I just don't think it is the masterpiece it is being hailed as. But, as I said in that same Dr. Dog thread, that is like my opinion dude and shouldn't have any impact on your opinion or your ability to enjoy the movie.

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My ex (who got her PhD at UAF) tells me I've been to this place before but I don't remember it. Would have been cool to be there, but I still think if they were going to play that close to Arctic Circle that close to the Solstice, they should've done it outside under the arctic twilight.

That was a good read. Mostly because he agree with what I was talking about earlier.

Yeah, from everything I was hearing I was expecting the movie to go deeper. I don't think you can raise issues such as terrorism, response to terrorism, domestic surveillance in the way they did without giving it more depth. Not to mention explore the ideas of what makes individuals good or bad without giving the characters more depth. It wanted to be something more, but as I said earlier it seemed reluctant to go all the way there and therefore many of the themes didn't carry weight for me. Instead, it was just a good, entertaining comic book movie.

So just saw this and I thought it was good. I heard comparisons to Heat (which i can see) and Godfather II (which I can't). I think it was great that it attempted to explore deeper and darker themes than is typical in this sort of movie. Also that it largely avoided the heavy-handed dialog of the first one. I liked Batman Begins quite a bit but that dialog killed me. That said, these are the only comic book movies I've ever liked. I actually wish they would have gone further with it though. The themes were so overt.

A boat of criminals and boat of innocent civilians? Come on! We get it, give us more credit than that. I also would have liked to see more character development. I think you could have lost the whole Hong Kong scene and certainly the Scarecrow scene and devoted more time to developing Harvey Dent's character. Maybe they thought they needed the action to keep the mainstream audiences because it is such a dark film. I just felt like they went 75% of the way there and for that I give 3/4 stars.

Here us a review that sums up some of what I mean above. I warn you that it is not a kind review (he definitely didn't like it, whereas I did) and it has many major spoilers.

criminals? they weren't convicted of anything yet

see them live ASAP!!

Telluride Bluegrass last year was my first exposure to them. It made me get Emotionalism. I'll pick up the the first Gleam... thanks for the rec! You couldn't possibly like those lyrics I posted though, right? I mean I even posted earlier today about how music tastes can vary wildly but I can't imagine a defense of those lyrics. And yes, I agree they aren't all that bad.