keeprighton2
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This one says "too eclectic" and the last one says "lost the edge."
Er, same thing doncha think....? BBN is fantastic - some of the dadrock stuff is not. BBN,YAI and SF all on the same record just swings too wildly from one extreme to the other for my liking. Look, I also really like OW and CD and DD. Everlasting is just cheesy save for the lovely outro. It doesn't feel cohesive to me - hence ' too eclectic'.
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Wilco (the Album) will go down as the record that Jeff Tweedy wanted to be 'all things to all people' which rarely works.
Just too eclectic in other words, falls between too many stools. That's all there is to it.
BBN and YAI might be thematically cleverly contrasting bedfellows - murder, then love - but musically, one, then the other, they cannot be reconciled.
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Radiohead isn't mainstream?
No. Popular yes (but only with discerning music fans) but very left of centre IMO. Does your mom like any Radiohead tunes? Thought not. Rest my case.
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I really do enjoy this album after a few continuos listens. It does appear that is it wilco's most accessible effort, which means 2/3rds of the album will be featured an WXRT with likely spots sappy prime time melodramas. The feel I get is a "classic rock" oriented album, with minor experimental flourishes. One thing I really appreciated about wilco was that they weren't always accessible to mass rock listeners. Being accessible to the masses isn't a bad thing. The reason I love RNR is because of the great accessible music, i.e. the beatles, stones, Who etc etc. From then that music turned me on to punk and 80/90's indie til what I consider quality today. I guess I never expected wilco to be within reach of this certain level of popularity. It is great, because this great band deserves to be heard. Being heard doesn't necessarily mean that they are truly understood and appreciated. I guess that the with larger audiences come more repellant fans. Simply, thats my worry as an early fan from the uncle tupelo days/wilco/jt shows at Lounge Ax. I have a friend who adores springsteen, loves the early stuff especially. I went to a show with him recently and the group concert goers next to us were shouting "glory days" and "dancing in the dark" and that was just a drag. I would hate to see wilco crowds take a similar path.
Until then done rambling and loving this new music by Wilco.
Well put. Look, if we want to broaden this, the 'rock' records that get remembered are the groundbreaking ones. The ones that critics salivate over are the ones that try something different. You can write/record all the lovely songs that you want but they won't be noticed in the same way, especially on boards like this where every last note is dissected. The YHF lovers will not love this (very fine) record as much for that very reason. This record will, I suspect, draw in a broader audience, and with that the YHF lovers will run for the hills. Sad, but true. We all defend our favourite bands, but come on, who hasn't felt that feeling of 'betrayal' when your best friend's aunt says they like the new Wilco record. Kind of cheapens it doesn't it and makes you want to like it less, to move on to something more challenging. You can't have it both ways. Radiohead remain at the top of their game because they'll never risk stepping out into the mainstream, compromising what they/their fans wanr them to be. For Tweedy, family man, demons behind him, it's a career now and some old fans will be shed along the way. Mixed opnion therefore is inevitable/unavoidable.
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Well written, well argued. I agree that the creative peak is back up behind them, so now its just a career. I think you're reading too much into the empty chairs though. I'm expecting a slow (and painful) descent. That said, this is a lovely record on its own terms, if a little too eclectic.
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Bull Black Nova = White Light White Heat (live)
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Lovely collection of Spector-esque pop from the Scottish collective. Very Spector, upbeat, string-laden, reverb-drenched pop songs - sounds like the Ronettes, Shangri-Las and Supremes all rolled into one. Recommended summer listening.
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Good work by the mods for changing the title.
--Mike
Mods! Mods! Mods!
Could have been the sound of Brighton seafront 1966 or any Jam concert circa 1977. Mods indeed.
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anyone know a good plumber?
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indeed. that record hit me soo hard when it was released. i could relate to every song on it. i don't listen to it much anymore because of that. it feels like im opening up a time capsule when i put it on. in fact, most of his songs are like that for me. i think that's where the Dylan references stem from. Conor's got that ability to make a tune so ambiguous yet personal, its just amazing.
damn, now i have to listen to it.
I preferred the albumj that was realsed alongsisde it: 'Digital Ash In A Digital Urn' - kind of a modern,almost electronic take on his musis , loved 'Hit The Switch' and 'I Believe In Symmetry' with its 99 Red Balloons lift for the first part before it breaks off into a glorious crescendo
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Lots of big windmills on Outtasite Outtamind - was swinging his arm round about 2 feet in front of my face in Dublin on the last tour (and missing the strings most times - just letting the wind make the chord!)
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When they say "uk and europe dates" do they mean non-festival shows as well??!
Think so - but there doesn't seem to be a big gap in between festivals to fit in a tour so who knows? Unless it rolls on towards September.....
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Mott's reunion (original lineup) has now sold out 1st 2nd and 3rd of October at Hammersmith Odeon (now Apollo).
5th and 6th two new dates have been added - on sale next week. Should be a blast!
Are you going?Yep - you?
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Mott's reunion (original lineup) has now sold out 1st 2nd and 3rd of October at Hammersmith Odeon (now Apollo).
5th and 6th two new dates have been added - on sale next week. Should be a blast!
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UK and Europe dates will be in August according to Nonesuch press office.
Green Man Festival in Brecon Beacons National Park in Wales is penultimate weekend of August - Wilco confirmed for that already - and dates in Europe and UK will follow around that time. Nothing confirmed yet but it will be August and I suspect there will be the odd festival or two to go along with regular dates.
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For me SBS simply 'crosses over' - it's more acceptable to a mainstream audience which is why IMO it alienated some of the hardcore fans.
Selling out? Not really - cos it didnt' sell that many anyway, but I just got a feeling that Tweedy might have been a little too 'settled' and 'content' after his issues. That could be interpreted as the comfort zone which in turn might lead to a 'safe' even 'bland' record. After all, history shows that that's what many acclaimed bands do - make a couple of great cutting edge records, then LOSE their edge when the success starts coming and eventually churn out bloated crap.
Not that I see SBS as being that, but I worry about the warning signs. 'Hate It Here' just sounds like Rod Stewart to me playing to a load of pissed-up desperate houswives at a hen party. For all the clever guitar stuff 'Walken' leaves me feeling the same.
Hell, even my wife likes it! (it MUST have crossed over)
I'm just hoping that the 'edge' returns for the new one. From what I've heard the lyrics and melodies sound very strong but I still have a feeling that the newly content Tweedy will not allow Wilco to lose its newly won 'wider' audience, and that, I reckon, will mean something not massively dissimilar to SBS. Very good songs assured but with many of the YHF and AGIB afficionados finding plenty to moan about.
Oh, and the band will become very successful.
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How does he cue the band that he's done? Is there a set number beforehand?
Think I counted 42 or 43 at the Berkeley show in August 2007
Seem to recall Tweedy trying to do one 'nothing' for every year to mark his 40th birthday (he lost count)
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That's an incredible set. Handshake Drugs is my favorite live song of theirs and it does a good job of spanning their catalog, with the exception of not having anything from A.M.
My only question is do I drive 45 minutes out of the way to pick this up at an indie store in Dallas or wait two weeks until it comes out in regular stores?
How much of the 'Total Pro's' then? Have to say I was hoping for 'Pieholden...' and could have done without HMD. Hey ho! Delighted 'Ashes' is on there, although in the light of the previous discussion I imagine this will be an audio recording painted over with various bits of arty, generic, live footage. I guess there'll be extras too a la IATTBYH (great version of Pieholden on there!)
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Wow thats a gorgeous song! Thanks!
But, you know it's not Midlake??
An English band yet to release their first album called....'The Leisure Society'
Stirring up some excitement over here!
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So with the announcement of dates in Spain and Portugal, we must be due some UK dates this time around to make up for the last tour cancellation?? Anybody have any insider info on this, as I'm eager to find out!!
Yep, been in contact with Wilco's press office in Europe and the news is.....
'we'll hopefully be announcing some UK summer dates to coincide with the album release soon'
So my guess is if they're in Spain til June 4th it might be in the couple of weeks that follow that. What was it, five/six shows pulled from late 2007? They're certainly due up north after missing out completely last time. Brixton Academy in London possibly after the cancellation there last time, though I would rather they did Shepherds Bush Empire again, or maybe Hammersmith Odeon/Apollo with the sloping floor and seats taken out as they did with Flaming Lips when I saw them there a few years back. Festivals maybe? Glasto? Timing might be right.
Anyway, sounds promising.
Crackling sound during Sonny Feeling
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Who cares? I'll be skipping over this one. Almost as bad as Walken. Having said that I had no love for Hate It Here either til I heard the version with horns on the Ashes DVD extra audio tracks - now I think it sounds like a Stax classic.