sweetheart-mine

that sounds familiar in many ways, and i'm with ya. my husband has to deal with politics in his peace work, of course, but he thinks about it all on a more cosmic, the-whole-system-needs-a-major-overhaul level -- which i absolutely agree with and admire, but it doesn't stop me from paying attention to the ever-changing details every day or week, and allowing my buttons to be pushed, sometimes by nasty machiavellians. say, maybe we could start a movement promoting agnosticism in one's political outlook, with detachment a requirement! think it would work?

a couple of weeks ago a gay friend of mine who owns a shop refused my suggestion to go ahead and make his ranch house into a cottage-type place like his shop is, who cares about the house's era. he said "that would be like putting lipstick on a pig." therefore, obama must be gay. pass it on.

it's not a bad idea, is it (thanks, tom friedman). maybe even leave out the coffee! i don't remember an election with so much at stake in my lifetime -- been voting since 1972 -- so it's pretty charged. right this second i'm listening to my level-headed husband, who is on the board of peace action maine in portland, talking on the phone with its director, and my husband is saying, "some people are getting really panicky about this election -- for example, right here in my household."

that's good news! we might not have to worry about the valium in obama's coffee after all (thomas friedman's op-ed in today's nytimes).

that's the one. don't forget to check out all the intelligent golf courses.

agreed. i do have better things to do. i really do thank you for reminding me! so long now.

very perceptive once again. i'm left of liberal.

i'm betting he has accomplished a lot more in his work and made more lives better than you have. it's very attractive that you've taken on the jeering at "work" that giuliani and palin did at the convention. congratulations again.

if you think this is fun -- seeing that crap, and seeing that it's most likely to win in november -- you couldn't be more wrong. i don't have your smugness. wish i did. instead i have heartache. go ahead and have a good laugh about that. there, i just did it for you. and i didn't say that either. can you read? let me answer for you, as bobbob likes to do: "no."

congratulations for buying the party line, most recently put forth by guiliani and palin at their convention.

you know, i have been watching and listening to mccain for years, and to palin for X number of days. they put themselves on show -- as caricatures. that is what they seem to want to be. apparently it throws people who are looking for substantive change, or even the real views of mccain and palin, off the track. they look like they're enjoying their roles as caricatures immensely. that is what i see, because that is what they've shown me. do you want me to make something up about them, as they do? forget it.

that's not what i said. try reading again.

do you think they actually believe it or do they just want to believe it because they're uncomfortable with him for other reasons? i'm curious. it's so funny, because the country is already in the process of being taken down, by the neocons of the last eight years, with plenty more dismantling to come from mccain/palin. i guess these people are among that large group of voters who always vote against their own interests? not until this year was i aware that the number of masochistic voters is so gigantic.

i'm afraid of her all right, for one reason: an awful lot of media and voters out there seem to have fallen in love at first sight because she's good to look at, and she comes across as extremely lively and sparkly next to the corpse-like mccain. great reasons! and they don't seem to give a damn what the views of either of them are or where they'll take the country -- which is not exactly down the same path as bush, it's farther to the right than that, and more lethal.

right. i think i just said that.

confrontation simply for confrontation's sake -- it adds nothing to the search for truth and the effort to reveal hypocrisy. i think that makes it a waste of time, both the writer's time and the readers' time.

oh. and they think he educated himself at Columbia and Harvard, earned a law degree, served his community as an organizer and as a civil rights attorney, served in the illinois state senate for 6 years, taught at the u. of chicago law school for 12 years (constitutional law), was elected to the u.s. senate in 2004 (where he worked on various issues such as election fraud, global warming, getting better care for returning iraq invasion vets, to name a few), and began his run for president in early 2007 -- plus somewhere along the line wrote two soul-baring books about his life and philosophy

bingo. they and millions of others they pretend not to be like. you'd think they'd have something more important to do, like write letters to their local newspapers about obama's middle name to shore up the doubts and fears of those in their actual communities.

if obama says he is a christian, not that it should matter, and you believe him -- why do you think it is that the american public "are, in general, not so convinced"? do you think they come to that doubt all by themselves? do you think no one's feeding it to them and encouraging it in them? do you think these are intelligent and important and real issues to be focusing on? one wonders, if this stupidity doesn't matter to you, why you even bring it up. as for "hussein ... origin ... arabic," what in the world is the matter with people? the shallowness of this and other non-issues b

thank you! i did not know this!

then you didn't make it very well. but i can understand why, because you are trying to take on the style of that troll kwall. it wasn't effective when he used it either.

i'm sure it is.

yah, i said "few" people, not "no" people. i already know you live in your own little world.

few people, including republicans, now argue that the people responsible for leading our country for the past 8 years have not been dangerous. it isn't just MY view, and my view absolutely is not shaped by my agreement with another politician's opinions in this case. where have you been???

"at some point" would have been nice. but on and on and on it goes. it's fearmongering, and you're an intelligent person, so i think you know this.