sweetheart-mine

this poem was sent to me by my brother just after 9/11. as a preface he wrote "You may have seen this in the NY Times. As heartbreaking as this passage is, I think it also shows the power of language, of art, to cut through even the worst of experience, to help us make sense of things that make no sense, and even (in this case, at least for me) to provide a kind of solace." "Thousands of blossoms, red, brown, white, yellow, black scattered on ground made tender by their falling. "This human body, more fragile than the dew, drops on the countless tips of morning grass." "My wai

yes, that's how i see it, 100%. clinton might have looked pretty roughed up by now; she had a lot of baggage. there's just no way to tell. just time. and i can't wait for that time to get here.

this is quite a coincidence, because i was in 8th grade history class when JFK was assassinated. true story.

that was a good idea you had there. it was really hard to turn it off, though. the game was so tight and the score at a complete standstill after the first couple of innings. it went on so long that by the 9th the suspense was killing me.

and you are absolutely right also. the wayward path begun by the push for political correctness was one of the phenomena i mentioned in ikol's ultimately doomed but worthy idea for his thread "in the spirit of bipartisanship. . . ." labels are only symbols, and what needs addressing or discussing more often in politics (and in the culture itself) is not the symbols themselves but the thoughts and beliefs behind them. it's a tall order this year, that's for sure. it's hard to remember what political opponents focused on before they became hyper-alert to every phrase and inflection. p

as they say around here, fixed it for ya. it was crying out for a fix. actually your whole assertion makes a big and probably wrong assumption, but i'm really really sick of the topic.

always? and only convenience can explain it? and ALL liberals paint it? you know, i'm getting deja vu -- someone earlier today freaked out and complained that a person who had just referred to "the republicans" meant "ALL republicans." it might have been you. why are you doing the exact thing you point your disapproving finger at? could it be a little hypocrisy, a bit of a double standard? you guys are really something.

yah, apparently you lost track of my small part in that conversation. i was more generally questioning your questioning of john smith; e.g., first i asked if you challenged only non-republicans' take on ads. you gave a reply that led me to observe generally, not about ad X specifically: "so it's ok to take note only of large, long pieces of evidence, not the small ones that sometimes add up to the larger." i'm not familiar with the ad and have no opinion of it.

those are excellent examples of the schoolyard arrested-development attacks that appeal to prejudice and keep the campaign dialog off the issues. i find mccain's whining to be hollow anyway.

they do, and it is. things must be very changed from hillary's point of view now. it would be one thing to have four years of mccain and then hillary try again in 2012 against republican candidate X, but another to find herself running against a seasoned palin that year. a debate between the two this year would have been a treat, though. hillary would have steamrolled right over her in just about every way i can think of.

kwall quoted: QUOTE (sweetheart-mine @ Sep 10 2008, 04:47 PM) * are you serious when you make up out of thin air things that other people supposedly suggested? why do you hate america? QUOTE (John Smith @ Sep 10 2008, 03:16 PM) * I haven't seen the ad but I've read that it appears that all the children in it are white, So some are claiming racial on this one . . . Afterall what is scarrier to white people than an uppity black man talking sex with their children? ________ very good. now, take a look at the names on those two posts. only the top post has my name on it, yet you had

joan walsh of "salon" agrees with you. actually, not for the same reasons, but she admires palin as a fighter and believes that makes her a feminist.

why yes, you read my mind. martians, koala bears, and all dead presidents must also be included. are you serious when you make up out of thin air things that other people supposedly suggested? why do you hate america?

obama has passed up enough dirty-politics opportunities to fill up lake michigan.

so it's ok to take note only of large, long pieces of evidence, not the small ones that sometimes add up to the larger. and you don't consider party affiliation. interesting.

it meant only that i fear your perception is correct -- from one current depressive to another. there's a good chance, though, that the situation will change drastically between now and november 4. obama may get tougher in order to respond to dirty politics, and mccain and palin may sink like stones once the sparkles fall off. anything can happen.

you're smart, unfortunately.

so you think it's ok to challenge someone noticing racism only if that person isn't a republican?

you might be right. so far these dead choices are winners.

"QUOTE I'm Lincoln's Ghost and I approved this message." missed that part, plus the magnificent pic.

oh damn. now i wish my bumper stickers weren't already on their way.

now THIS is a real day-brightener. of course, mccain could fill this role while still alive, but don't anyone ask me to "prove" it. it's an opinion, and a joke by half. and i'd take lincoln's ghost any day of the week! I wonder if we can write him in. the ghost, i mean.

google offered no people numbers, just the infinitely various types of movements both past and possibly future. in reading, i figured at least half of the movements known to humanity throughout history had to have started with a very few individuals and grown from there. two would be too small, in my opinion, so i vote for three: two to agree on everything, and a third to play devil's advocate (1) to sharpen the skills and level of thinking of the two, and/or (2) to throw gratuitous spears into the middle of any agreements to gain a false sense of power. we've got a couple of powerful p

yes. actually, no. i would feel insulted if, knowing where mccain is coming from, i thought he was trying to reel me in with his sparkly, tokenism pick. but he's not trying to reel in the kind of person i am. he is trying to reel in undecideds, both independents and right-wingers, who weren't happy with him as he was, plus a few disappointed HRC voters. i still believe it was a cynical move, as i said when it first happened so short a time ago, but i don't take it personally.

doesn't your post assume (wrongly) that obama had absolutely no political or other relevant experience before his "143" days in the u.s. senate? you're right, no one's voting for the next american idol. A+ for that one.