sweetheart-mine

I just have a problem with people who are nuts having guns.....

 

LouieB

and there are so many of those. can't they wear signs around their necks or something?

damn. one of my favorite people . . .

maybe "impossible germany" -- colbert is one of the few shows where they could get away with using that much time.

we left the kids home alone for the 1st time a few weeks ago to go to a party next door. I came home for a few minutes to check on them and brought them cookies from the party. An hour or so later my cell phone rings. It's the littlest one (6) in a fake old man voice and he says: "this is obama, bring home 2 chocolate chip cookies and one peanut butter cookie for the children. Again, this is obama".

would you lend this kid out now and then? he is way funnier than our cats. i love this story and it has to be my favorite all year on v.c., bar none. we've been laughing for three hours over here!

hey, you said it not me. maybe caliber had a point.

ever hear of context?

more important, the sky is pink, the grass is gold, and the phillies won. music, art, and my husband are calling me.

you have yourself a beautiful rest of the year.

Good thing you're not running the campaign. If Obama were to smear McCain 'for his own firsthand participation in a mistaken war of aggression' he'd basically be done in national politics. In fact, he might have to move back to his Muslim home land.

it is a good thing i'm not running the campaign because i'd hate it, but if i were, advising obama to smear mccain "for his own firsthand participation in a mistaken war of aggression" wouldn't be on my to-do list. duh.

The "Are you serious?" comment was in response to your assertion that the Obama connection to Ayers and McCain's military record constitutes a false parallel because "McCain is running for president [and] Ayers isn't." Both situations have to do with choices made by a current presidential candidate.

right. it still seems false to me because obama's connection to ayers is so extremely slight and mccain's connection to his own very substantial military experience is, well, as heavy as a connection can get. yet mccain smears obama by trying to connect him to terrorism via ayers, whereas obama refrains from smearing mccain for his own firsthand participation in a mistaken war of aggression (in fact he stupidly praises him for it) and for his later connections to unsavory characters such as liddy and the keating gang. too many differences for me to see a parallel of any significance whatsoever.

if that makes me wrong, so be it. i'm wrong. no problem!

My point is, you are saying that Obama's ties (such as they are) to Ayers are irrelevant, and I have already said they are irrelevant.

 

I don't have any problem with you. You do seem to take it pretty personally when people disagree with you, though.

oh come on. i initially said (to someone else) that ayers was irrelevant, and out of the blue you asked if i was serious.

about taking it personally: not at all. i do get annoyed when someone seems to be giving me a hard time for no reason, but disagree on the issues all you want. i get many laughs every day reading these boards; if i didn't, i wouldn't be here.

Even Joe the Plumber is coming back to bite McCain in the ass.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_...ns-top-sur.html

 

That guy is such a pile of crap. He makes an insane statement and then when he's asked to back it up, by FOX NEWS, no less, he has no clue what he's talking about and tries to cover it up by telling the viewers they need to go out and find their own answers and not listen to his opinion. Then why the hell are you speaking at campaign engagements?!? Ugh, this whole election has made me physically ill. I can't wait for this to end.

joe the plumber is probably going to have one of the biggest cases of post-election letdown in the country. his peak and fall are pretty short and steep.

Did you miss the part where I said it was irrelevant?

i have no idea what you're trying to say nor what your problem with me is.

Um, and we are judged on those with whom we choose to associate. If McCain had a working (or otherwise) relationship with a domestic terrorist, you better believe we would be hearing about it.

i think you know that obama was 8 years old when ayers was doing his thing, and that his association with him 30-35 years later has been minimal at best and has had nothing to do with terrorism domestic or otherwise.

i'd be more concerned about mccain and his liddy and keating associations, and even more concerned about the palins' more recent pallin' around with the america-hating alaskan secessionists. does obama go about harping on or even mentioning those associations?

Are you serious?

why wouldn't i be? mccain is running for president. ayers isn't. what mccain has done with his life is relevant to the election. what ayers has done with his life isn't.

I'm ok with that. But if we're going to complain about the Ayers thing, is it then cool for us to say that McCain is a baby killing bomber man?

mccain is running for president. ayers isn't.

but you see how mccain gets to certain people by encouraging them to draw false parallels, as your post did.

I've often said that if Nader was serious about changing the way Washington works, he'd run for an office he could actually win - like a congressional representative or even US senator. These presidential runs are just for publicity, IMO. They're certainly not doing anything to advance the cause, especially this year.

excellent point. i've come to believe he'd be a disaster as president, but he might make a great congressional rep or senator. nearly his whole career has been about legislation in one form or another.

Oh I'm pretty sure bobob had a can of Pringles in his carry on bag, he was just afraid to pull them out to eat because of how un-cool they are made out to be.

 

Also, I'll take my chances with reconstituted potatoes over rubber chicken any day.

good luck.

Or maybe it would be like "You can keep your crappy airline food and I'll just enjoy this can of Pringles I packed myself. I will take the half can of Coke (on ice) that I have coming though."

not fair. i love pringles.

Did you once say you were here:

 

On April 24, 1971, John Denver sang "The Strangest Dream" at a peace march in Washington DC. The anti-war march was to protest the Vietnam War. The song, written by Ed McCurdy, was one of the anthems of the anti-war era.

 

April 24th 1971 Peace March Against the War in Vietnam

i bet he was . . . ?

i was there but too far away to hear this, what must have been denver's finest moment. thank you so much for posting this. i never did get to really hear it until just now. where is my kleenex.

i can't wait until this is over. i am so sick of the words maverick, spread the wealth, socialist, terrorist, TESTED!, MY FRIENDS!, joe the fu*king plumber, measuring the drapes, mccains penguin voice and creepy smile, palins finger nails on a chalk board voice. sweet relief is just a few more days away.

i'm with ya 100%. it's the sickest campaign i've ever seen, and i've seen many. last night the guy at the end of rachel maddow's show had a list of how to handle "election stress." wish i'd written them down. all i remember are the first and the last:

1. stay away from the computer, the tv, and the newspaper.

5. change the subject and go camping.

Do you live around a lighthouse? Maybe Ms. Viatroy and I can get up there sometime.

there isn't one in my town, but we're just south of portland and there's portland head light in the city, and between here and there is Two Lights in cape elizabeth -- two lighthouses close together, plus a lobster shack place to eat on a cliff over the sea. you and ms. viatroy should definitely come up sometime! if it's in the spring we can go to Two Lights and eat outside by the water. (it's closed now for the winter.) ms. viatroy's daughter has probably been there.

I don't recall the South Haven lighthouse ever being referred to as Big Red. For some reason I think that is what they call the Holland lighthouse.

 

For some lighthouse trivia, did you know that Michigan has the most lighthouses of any state? Come on up A-man, check out a lighthouse, and stimulate our dire economy.

 

eta: FYI, that is the South Haven South Pier lighthouse on Lake Michigan.

oh you're right! Big Red is in Holland. i've been there many times, as my husband grew up in Holland, but we've been to south haven a few times and gone to that lighthouse too, which must have mixed me up. that's a gorgeous pic you have.

Changed the desktop background this week. It was really windy on Sunday and the Kalamazoo Gazette sent a photographer to South Haven to get the annual waves-crashing-over-the-pier shot:

 

hey, is that Big Red?

Has this new Obama ad been posted yet?

it's a good one! thanks for posting.

http://www.newyorker.com/talk/comment/2008..._talk_hertzberg

 

I think it's optimistic to expect this to be the last thread.

i love hendrik hertzberg. i'd go searching for him immediately if he weren't always already up front, where he belongs.

my town is tiny (about the size of wasilla!) and i'm waiting for election day to vote. i want to FEEL my vote.

would vote early, though, if in a big town or city (or state, for that matter).

Nothing especially wacky in that particular purity-ball description, although the idea of daughters making pledges to their dads about their virginity while dancing with them at a fancy ball (an atmosphere usually associated with the courting of potential mates and whatnot) is a bit odd.

 

I dunno. I guess its really only if you think too hard about it that your head starts to hurt, but really, on the surface...meh, whatever floats their boat.

 

I have daughters. And I can say that there are few things cooler in a dad's life than when your daughters ask you to dance with them and call you their Prince Charming and tell you they want to marry you when they grow up. Its really cute because my girls are under 6 years old--but if they're still doing this when they are teenagers, I'll probably have to have a talk with them about it.

you think you'll be out of jail by then?