Wild Frank

I actually managed to lose Wilco a fan last month. I took my wife to the Manchester show and she was feeling really rough. She toughed it out as she knew how important it was to me. We compromised by standing towards the rear where she would be more comfortable. Consequently I enjoyed the show less and she came out just feeling sick and dizzy.

Now, whenever I stick the new album on she leaves the room!.

p.s: During the Manchester show everyone seemed to treat 'Some Sunday Morning' as a toilet break or an opportunity to get another beer. Crazy behaviour Manchester people!

This was really sad news to wake up to this morning.

I was obsessed with Ali as a teenager and loved watching the Ali/Frazier fights (even as a young lad in the UK, Ali was a worldwide phenomenon). As I got older I got to grips with the uncurrents of the Ali/Frazier stand off and how badly Ali treated Joe. The Thriller in Manilla is the most destructive and empassioned fight I've ever seen in my life. Permanent damaged was done to both fighters that night (or morning if I recall).

Anyway, its a sad loss. My two sons (five and seven respectivly) have no idea who Joe Frazier was but they enjoyed the tribute bout we had this morning on the walk to school. I was Ali, my eldest was Joe Frazier and my youngest was Foreman. It was two against one but I still took them down!

RIP Joe.

I have watched the 'Big Time' movie a few times but that has never made it to DVD. I like Wait's policy of limiting the amount of product on the market. It makes the live shows feel more special.

I have mentioned this a few times but he really has managed his career to perfection. Its only my opinion but he has never made a bad album. The other big hitters (Neil Young, Bob Dylan, Van Morisson etc) are all genius but have put out their fair share of really, really bad records. Wait's is just a bit classier and careful what comes out. I love Neil Young but a bit of self-control would be nice. We don't need a new record every year. With Tom its quality over quantity always.

1) Tom Waits - Bad as Me. (Wow!)

2) Wilco - The Whole Love (Its really really good).

3) The Decemberists - The King is Dead. (What a pleasant surprise).

4) DJ Shadow - The Less You Know the Better (Another great album from Mr. Davis)

5) Olafur Arnalds - Living Room Songs (..and relax!)

6) Bon Iver - Bon Iver (Have overdosed on this one but still amazing)

and

7) Mercury Rev - Deserter's Songs (This one is cheating 'cos its a re-issue but I have just got the vinyl edition (Lights in the Attic) with a signed picture of Johnathan and Grasshopper (only 100 made) so I'm gonna shoehorn the 'Rev into ever thread I post in this week!! (Holes, Opus 40, Goddess on a Highway, Delta Sun...one of the greatest album ever made.)

Also looking forward to the new Roots and Common albums which ares due in a couple of weeks. The tracks I have heard from both so far have been great.

....and what happened to My Morning Jacket. I love them guys but this is the second record on the spin (no pun intended)that has left me cold.

I'm probably in a minority of those who give a damn but...I love to see Marillion with Fish on vocals again. Marillion are still a great band but with Fish it was beautiful.

Marillion do these weekend convention shows so how about one night new Marillion, one night with Fish, and the third with both singers.

oh..and I'd love to see Neil Young back with Crazy Horse for a show. It's a different scenario with Neil as he has so many different bands but Crazy Horse still rock.

The new album is streaming now from Tom's website. Listening to it now. Halfway through and it's very, very good. The opening track 'Chicago' is mad and bad. Loving it.

hanged.

 

There was a kid in highschool who bragged about never having read a book. Chump.

I think every school had one. I knew a kid that would immediately dismiss an artists most popular album on principle and declare the best one to be an obsure release.

I think it was meant to prove that he knew more about music that everyone else. However, all it really proved was that he was a knob.

I did agree with him that Harvest was not Neil Young's best album. I disagreed with him that 'Re-Ac-Tor' was!

Nigel: Just listen to that sustain. Shh. Do you hear it?

Marty: No.

Nigel: You would, though, if it were playing.

Love that one..and this:

Nigel Tufnel: You like this?

Marty DiBergi: It's very nice. It looks like hollow wood.

Nigel Tufnel: This is my exact inner structure, done in a tee shirt. Exactly medically accurate. See?

Marty DiBergi: So in other words if we were to take all your flesh and blood...

Nigel Tufnel: Take them off. This is what you'd see.

Marty DiBergi: It wouldn't be green though.

[Nigel points at Marty]

Nigel Tufnel: It is green. You see how your blood looks blue.

Marty DiBergi: Yeah, well that's just the vein. That's the color of the vein. The blood is actually red.

Nigel Tufnel: Oh then, maybe it's not green. Anyway this is what I sleep in sometimes.

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I'm quite impressed that Tom has managed to keep the new record from 'leaking'. It's due in less than two weeks and there is no sign of it on t'internet. I have the vinyl in pre-order and, without the temptation of a leak' will settle down and give it due attention on release day.

On a side note I have just picked up the new re-release of Frank's Wild Years on vinyl (great name for an album!). I never used to enjoy that record as much as the two that preceeded it but I'm loving it at the moment. 'Telephone Call From Istambul' is a great tune.

I don't think people 'literally' hung the OP for not having heard a Beatles album. That debate has been had on this site, in a mature manor, before. I think it was the dismissal of Beatles singles as 'drivel' (or some such statement)that caused the 'hanging'.

As stated above, by BO, announcing and taking pleasure in disliking (or not hearing) popular works seems a bit childish.

I love Joy Division, Husker Du and The Smiths (just off the top of my head, I could have listed reams of other bands),

What are you trying to prove here?. Are you trying to suggest that you're cooler than us? Well done to you.

A new Decemberists EP on the way. 'Long Live the King' to be released on the 1st November.

http://pitchfork.com/news/44167-the-decemberists-reveal-details-of-forthcoming-ep/

01 E. Watson

02 Foregone

03 Burying Davy

04 I 4 U & U 4 Me

05 Row Jimmy (Grateful Dead cover)

06 Sonnet

This should be good. 'The King is Dead' is still up there as my album of the year in 2011.

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This may be the most amazing two sentences ever posted on Via Chicago.

I started a thread on my lack of love for the Beatles a year or so. Whilst I don't like the Beatles I've listened to their albums and certainly wouldn't call their singles 'drivel'. They're the greatest band of all time. Not my cup of tea, but genius all the same.

(...and side is better than side two!).

It's not just minimalist, it's sloppy and pretty bad. I'm sure there are plenty of covers worse than a lot of those on the list, but I can definitely see somebody wanting to include it on a list like this.

 

I'm also not a fan of Summerteeth's cover.

Summerteeth's a great cover. If I was rating Wilco on covers I would have to say:

YHF

ST

AGIB

BT

TWL

SBS

AM

WTA

Which, strangly, correlates with the quality of the respective records. Spooky.

 

I laughed.

So did my wife!

I'm really enjoying the extended version of One Sunday Morning on vinyl. Its only an extra couple of minutes, but as my wife keeps telling me, the longer the better.

Wilco's Capitol City = Pink Floyd's San Tropez

 

I actually think the Wilco song is the more psychedelic of the two.

I knod of see where you're coming from. What is Wilco's 'Seamus'?

And have Wilco ever made an equivalent 'Alans psychedelic breakfast'!!

MMJ's It Still Moves is ridiculous...wtf is w/ that hideous bear?

I like MMJ but all their covers have been pretty horrible (with the exception of Z). The Evil Urges cover is dreadful.

For what its worth my favourite band in album cover terms are probably Lambchop, although Micah P. Hinson's covers have all been great and all in a similar style. I do like a bit of consistancy in my covers....as long as Roger Dean is not involved.

Nothing wrong with the AM cover in my eyes. I've certainly seen 25 worse covers. Flip it around and I'd have YHF in one of the 25 best album covers.

And surely 'Smell the Glove' should be on that list.

"Nigel Tufnel: It's like, how much more black could this be? and the answer is none. None more black."

GnR will make it because they were the biggest rock act for a long run there and sold a bazillion albums. Doesn't mean they deserve to be there ahead of numerous others, though.

That pretty much sums it up. I supposed the clues in the title. Fame. Famous, Infamous. I'd stuggle to argue that G'n'R weren't a famous Rock and Roll band. Not the best...but for a while, certainly the most famous.

And I actually like November Rain but that's probably for the guilty pleasures thread!

And...I actually got around to listening the the Chinese Democracy album and it is alot better than I imagined it would be.

I agree completely when you put it that way but it's also the reason why imo it's wrong to put them together - both thematically and stylistically.

You're probably right but its just one of those natural phenomina that happen in all bands careers. People like to categorise and compartmentise things.

Using another Dylan example Bringing It All Back Home, Highway 61 Revisited and Blonde on Blonde go together, they form a trilogy. They just do. They are different but, for a variety of reasons, they are viewed as such. Looking at the Wilco career arc SBS and WTA have become one such compartment and YHF and Ghost another etc. Its not right but it just seems to happen.

Ugh, if only people would stop putting SBS and W(TA) on the same heap. First one is an excellent if somwhat uneven (yeah, several songs on its second half aren't that great but the same counts for AGiB) rootsy wind down album and an essential part of the Wilco discog. W(TA) on the other hand sounds like a band with nothing to say phoning it in.

I think, bearing in mind what preceeded and has now followed them, they do belong together. I agree that, in my opinion, SBS is alot better than WTA.

In terms of what they 'sound' like. SBS sounds like Jeff Tweedy coming to terms with personal/health/depressive problems and WTA just sounds like a group of guys having fun without any excess baggage or regard for what went before. Both fine, although the latter was less successful as a record.

And The Whole Love sounds like a group of guys getting back to business and trying to show the world what makes Wilco special.

 

cool. that record is very much akin to a wilco record. great melodies, memorable solos and a bit of experimentation. and of course, the prog masterpiece guyote!

Sounds promising. As an aside has anyone ever heard mention of Genesis as an influnce on Wilco/Tweedy?. They did 'come out' recently as Rush fans so I wouldn't be surprised if there was some Genesis love in the band. A couple of songs on A Ghost is Born have vague Genesis traits.

 

Well, since you don't like their music......Fact is they were the biggest band in the world from 87-94, Slash is the most recognizable musician in the world, and Axl has an unmistakable voice. They've sold millions of albums all over the world and sold out stadiums all over the world.

 

Are there oversights that should obviously be there? Sure, but lookin at GnR's body of work and how well known and successful they are and their music is I don't think you can deny that they should be in the Hall.

I agree with this although I can see why people would think otherwise. They should be in the hall of fame even though their body of work is not as strong as others (rush etc). They represented mainstream rock and roll for a number of years...although i'm not sure slash is the most recognizable musician in the world! I may be wrong, but I hope I'm not, but surely more people would recognise Sir Paul McCartney or Keith Richards...or even Phil Collins than Slash.

early phish is very much in the vein of progressive rock. however, they add a dash of humor to their music and the lyrics can seem goofy at first. after a while you realize it's the real deal and not a shtick at all. Lawn Boy is their best early album. After that, Rift is amazing with some epics. Billy Breathes is more song oriented, but great. Story of the Ghost is their best album as far as I'm concerned. it has everything; songs, jams and epics. i'll be curious what you think WildFrank. these guys could easily pull off Lamb. there were rumors years back that they would cover the album at a halloween gig. i'm surprised they haven't covered more prog. they could definitely pull off Firth of Fifth and the like.

Thanks for that. I'm gonna take your recommendation and pick up Story of the Ghost. I've historically fared very well taking recommendations from this board.