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1. I Am Trying To Break Your Heart - Love any version, studio, live, solo - each one has strong merits

2. Kamera - Studio Version, like the acoustic guitar version, simple, uncluttered

3. Radio Cure - Live Version, like how it builds

4. War On War - Both are great

5. Jesus, etc. - Studio version b/c of violins

6. Ashes Of American Flags - Nels solo makes the live version my favorite - it might be my second favorite live Wilco song

7. Heavy Metal Drummer - the live version has a lot of energy, but it comes across very cluttered, so I prefer the studio version

8. I'm the Man Who Loves You - Studio version hands down. I also like the demo versions. This song to me has never connected with me live. It is the perfect example of too many cooks in the kitchen. I do love the live versions 2002-2003.

9. Pot Kettle Black - Studio version, again I like the acoustic guitar on it.

10. Poor places - any version, my favorite Wilco song. I wish he'd also do it solo live more the May 2003 version is superb.

11. Reservations - solo acoustic version is favorite. The words seem to translate best unaccompanied by any other instrumentation than just Jeff's guitar and his voice.

That's my 2 cents.

My top 20 (I've excluded any track from W(TA) because it's still so new

Overall, I'm very pleased with my list. I'm kind of surprised it wasn't harder for me to do this.

1. Poor Places

2. Ashes of American Flags

3. Hell Is Chrome

4. How To Fight Loneliness

5. Radio King

6. Muzzle Of Bees

7. Theologians

8. Jesus, etc.

9. She's A Jar

10. I Am Trying To Break Your Heart

11. Sunken Treasure

12. New Madrid

13. A Shot In The Arm

14. Please Tell My Brother

15. Impossible Germany

16. On and On and On

17. Long Time Ago

18. Gun

19. Please Be Patient With Me

20. Misunderstood

3 songs immediately come to mind:

Every Grain Of Sand - Bob Dylan

Into the Mystic - Van Morrison

What A Wonderful World - Louis B. Armstrong

I kind of agree with the sentiment that the original song themselves may not evoke what I'm trying to communicate with these songs.

I think the following arrangements might translate quite well:

Every Grain Of Sand - two guitars - one electric like the orginal song playing the same part, one classic guitar playing the vocal notes - and the original harp solo

Into the Mystic - Dixieland arrangement - adding a violinist to play the vocal part (on second thought, not sure if this would work, but I love this song so much it has to be played at my memorial service)

What A Wonderful World - played solely by a trumpet, almost taps like but the lyrics to the song (which most people would be familar with) would counter balance the tapslike arrangment

What A Wonderful World is the same song that my wife danced with her father (since deceased) at our wedding. I like the idea of her connecting the song to both of us together in the great beyond.

Having worked with sexually abused children, I have the deepest sympathy, sensitivity, and defensiveness for anyone who has been abused in any form, and I have complex and mixed feelings about those who were molested and then went on to molest others.

I wish I could find some black and white moral stance on it all that would provide me peace and solace, but rarely does anyone who knows someone or was sexually assaulted themselves (as children) find total peace on this side of heaven.

It's hard not to look at Michael and his family when they were adorable kids and not be heartbroken by the idea that his parents messed them up for life. I think of some of the young victims I have known and worked with and it's difficult for me to ever think, that even if they were to commit the most dispicable of acts, I would still not be influenced by their traumatic events. I think that's how I've always approached my judgment of Michael Jackson. I can't condone his sins but I also can't condemn him either.

All the same, I can't condemn those who feel intense judgment and condemnation against the man. But for those who do not share my ambivalance in judging him, please do not ever mistake my empathy and reservations as endorsing the man's life and the legacy he left as a person outside of music.

Aside from all that, my first childhood hero has died. It does feel like a part of my childhood just went away.

did anyone capture the Milwaukee webcast from 4-15 that we could share?

Elvis Perkins in Dearland

Josh Ritter

Jenny Lewis

Man,

I planned to purchase tickets to his Atlanta show this June but it looks like they're sold out. Major bummer.

I spent two weeks convincing friends to go see him and they finally agreed, only to have the show sellout.

Me Sad.

love a PM from anyone who was able to capture it.

listening to it right now, but I don't have the capabilities to capture it at work.

So ...

I'm in Charlotte and my friends who I were counting on going with have bailed on me, so I'm left with two extra tickets. I'm willing to sell the extra 2 or all 3 if someone is looking for 3 decent seats.

I know the show hasn't sold out, but I'm pretty sure my seats are better than whatever seats are still available. I still plan to go, but if you need 3 good seats, I can always purchase 1 ticket when I get there.

Mezzanine

Main Floor behind orchestra

Row EE

Seats 5-7

email me

jhetterly@gcts.edu

Was able to grab it at Manifest Disc in Charlotte, and it only cost me $10. I wanted to stick around and browse for more deals, but I had a 6 year old and my 3 year-old was asleep in my arms. Also, there was live music and it was very loud for them.

Oh well, best $10 I've spent in quite awhile.

I'm there.

I have one friend coming for sure and hopefully another friend as well. Both will be first timers seeing Wilco live. I'm excited.

The Divine Comedy - Dante

The Brothers Karamazov - Dostoevsky

Pride and Prejudice - Austin

Where the Sidewalk Ends - Silverstein

The Hobbit - Tolkien

Slaughterhouse-Five - Vonnegut

The Old Man and the Sea - Hemingway

The Adventures of Augie March - Bellow

Of Mice and Men - Steinbeck

Rabbit, Run - Updike

Louis B. Armstrong - What A Wonderful World

I'm working on a matrix of sorts on my computer right now. It won't be flac or anything, but it sounds nice!

I would love a copy when you're finished.

I'd love a PM as well.

I think both are 2 for 3 with their latest output.

I like both Pop and ATYCLB a lot.

I think Reveal is the best of all 6 albums.

I think Atomic Bomb and Around the Sun are quite possibly the worst albums for each group, IMO.

I think Up, Reveal are underrated and Accelerate is a solid album. I with R.E.M. would go back and make a sparse, quiet album in the vein of Automatic and Out of Time.

Has anyone recorded this?

And if so, would they be in a generous mood and share?

That's cool, but where's the quiz? The Meyers-Briggs quiz? Or does everyone just know their personality type as categorized by Meyers-Briggs?

oops! my bad ... obviously misunderstood your question.

Ok, you, me and Tiny Diary will have to fight it out to see who is going to be in charge.

Funny thing, I prefer not to fight or be in charge. I think my sense of humor and my childlike propensity to attract attention to myself influences my E score, but in reality, I am also very unambitious, more than willing to defer leadership, only speak up when whoever is leading is doing a horrible job, and am really uncomfortable with compliments, praise, or criticism. Perplexes me. In other words, when I lead or am in charge, we generally get nowhere (but I can make them laugh!)

Where's the actual quiz?

I work at and attend a graduate theological seminary in Charlotte, NC. I am working on a Masters degree in Counseling, completing both the LPC and MFT tracks. Should complete the degree in another year, then should satisfy the state license requirements to take the exams two years after that.

There are a number of songs that I just skip, simple harmless tunes that I just don't take a hankerin' to - a lot of A.M. to be specific ...

I really tried, but I couldn't find any songs that "I can't stand to listen to" - there are many I find weak, but sometimes I enjoy the music enough to overlook the crap lyrics (Outtasite Outta Mind, Why Would You Wanna Live) or the lyrics are poignant enough to overlook the weak music (Leave Me Like You Found Me, Radio Cure). I've always been album-oriented, so I often just listen to the entire thing.

Having said that, some songs have been redeemed by their live incarnations (Kingpin, Shake It Off). There just hasn't been a moment where I've been bored at a Wilco concert. Honestly though, I listen to live Wilco, live UT, and live Tweedy much more than I listen to their proper albums. That may also be a reason for my listening style. I don't skip over live tracks. I like to hear the entire concert from start to finish.

Hey, I like to listen to proper Bob Dylan albums, even the train wrecks. I love them all. I won't say they're all classics, or all good, but I love them all. Sometimes a bad Dylan album is just what the doctor ordered. Guess I wouldn't be a good music critic ... (bad films on the other hand are painful ... I'll stop them the moment I've given up)

I am an ENTJ. I am moderate E, the rest are within five of the center. Interesting enough, I've taken the MBTI three times in my life, have scored ENTJ on all three, but each time, my scores have moved closer to the center. I'd like to think it has to do with maturity, empathy, and experience in life, but I'm sure there are less noble reasons as well.

I actually have a quiz tonight on Personality Tests. I'm prepping for questions on the MBTI, the Big 5 Personality Factors, the House-Tree-Person test, and the 16PF Inventory. I find the stuff fascinating ... just not enough to be quizzed on.

Am I to blame for this topic taking a turn away from SNL?

If so, gosh, I'm sorry.

Gosh I hate that fucking bullshit.

 

Like Liberals and Democrats are the only ones who care and are compassionate. What a joke. Your argument sucks.

Thanks for at least saying "Gosh"!

For the record, Youtube is the best thing to ever happen to SNL. Now all I have to do is wait until Sunday or Monday to only watch the funny clips and skip the rest.

If you are in fact a Conservative Christian, Obama's VERY liberal abortion record and the thought of who he might appoint to the Supreme Court doesn't scare you?

 

 

The fact that Palin was successful enough to put herself in a position to be one of the very few females to be asked to be a VP in American history isn't inspiring? The fact she was told many months before her last child was born that he'd have Down's Syndrome, and she welcomed it isn't inspiring? The way she handled her teenage daughter's pregnancy isn't inspiring? The way her and her husband work together and support each other insn't inspiring?

 

 

 

And I agree that right now she's not qualified to be VP....especially foreign affairs. But I'd argue she knows more about forighn policy than Ronald Reagan did.

 

I, for one, hope Obama hires some smart people.....his lack of experience isn't much greater than Palin's, and he's aiming to be President!

If we're going to discuss the sanctity of life, let's not reduce it merely to abortion. Let's talk about poverty, education, healthcare for the babies and parents you legislate to have the child. Let's talk about adoption agencies and other social services. Let's talk about the death penalty. Let's talk about war and civilian casualties. Let's talk about commerce and trade. Let's have a critical and informative dialogue about the sanctity of life and how abortion and abortion laws represent a only one piece of a larger worldview about life and the right to life and the equality of life, all lives, black, white, poor, rich, American, immigrant, Iraqi, Sudanese. When the Conservative Republicans starts acting like a Sudanese child or a Haitian woman's life is inherently worth the same as an unborn baby, then they can lecture me on abortion. Otherwise, it's a talking point they manipulate "conservatives" or "moral conservatives" with. I will not reduce my vote for the most important human being on the world because of one issue.

I don't support everything about Obama. There is a lot I disagree with him over. I have never truly felt "at peace" with any presidential candidate since I turned 18 and was able to vote. I vote my conscious, and it has NEVER not had conflict with the candidates. And I do not characterize myself as a "Conservative Christian". That's a label that white, American mainstream Protestants are given (or choose for themselves) which often has more political than religious implications. I would characterize myself as a Orthodox, Protestant, Evangelical, Global Christian.

Am I concerned about who Obama might choose for Supreme Court? Yes. I have always been concerned about each and every candidate and who they might choose for the Supreme Court? You know what? Obama picked Joseph Biden to be his Vice President. Solid choice. John McCain picked Sarah Palin to be his Vice President. Poor choice. Who gives me more confidence in their ability to choose a solid Supreme Court Justice? You tell me based upon the argument I just presented.

I'd find her ascension to Vice President nominee to be more inspiring if I believed she deserved and earned it. I do not believe that to be the case. The other examples you mentioned are commendable. Are they inspiring? Not to me. Not to be Vice President. I'm sorry, but the way she "handled" her daughter's pregnancy was not inspiring. Spin it however you want, showboating her daughter and the father of the baby is not inspiring.

I also hope that Obama, should he win, picks smart people - it'd be an improvement over Bush and McCain's VP selection. Yes, Obama is inexperienced in many areas, but he has thus far demonstrated to me both with his rhetoric and his standing in the world that he is the right person right now for the world the next president will inherit. And our standing in the world does matter to me because we live in a world where America cannot go at it alone. And when I hear from my Missionary and Peace Corp friends in Haiti, in South America, and in India, they provide a healthy counterbalance of what Christians and servants around the world think of George Bush, the War in Iraq, Torture, and American Politics.

I have given McCain chance after chance after chance to impress me. He has not. I miss the McCain that took on Bush in '00. He was someone I probably could have gotten behind. The Sarah Palin pick was the final nail in the coffin that already had too many nails.