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Well, Present Tense is a great song for most other bands, it bursts open in a magnificent way, I just set the PJ bar for a great song a bit higher :-P. It's not in my top 10% PJ songs. Yield and especially No Code are underrated albums though, they have a much more natural flow and cohesion than any of (what most people consider) the big three.

There isn't a single factoid leaked from the new Spider-Man reboot that has convinced me this is anything but a disastrous undertaking. Well, it's been a while since Schumacher's batman & robin...:-[

Yeah, the Stephen Fry episode was great. I like that Craig will do stuff like that, or open his show with a puppet skit, or some other such silliness that other's wouldn't touch. Plus he's the only one that improvises his monologue. His show feels less stodgy than the rest*.

 

 

* I'd give Jimmy Fallon the nod for 2nd least stodgy as he tries do fun things such as the various games with guests and audience members, and he has the most interesting musical guests overall.

I was flabbergasted during the strike a while back that Conan or any other talk show host wasn't able to fill even a few minutes with improv or jokes they wrote themselves. That is after all how they started and have apparently forgot how to do. So very disappointed I was they've become completely dependent on their staff.

I like the more relaxed format now, no more barrier between the audience and hopefully some more off-the-wall bits like the visit to the censor. I don't expect him to return to extremely zany stuff like on the old Late Night show, I think he was happy to abandon some of that stuff when he took the Tonight show and is unlikely to want to go back. You could really tell when he was saying goodbye to supporting characters (i.e. masturbating bear) during his last Late Night shows.

I've always thought the hook-up between Jason Segel's and Linda Cardellini's character was extremly painful and a little heartbreaking, an exceedingly awkward and realistic portrayal of kids who don't know why the hell they're doing what they do sometimes and hurting each other as a consequence. I'm pretty sure this was mainly put in as a comedic arch, so I could be the only one.

If you're mister glass-is-half-full: if f&g had run for ten seasons, so many great other comedy shows and films would never have been. Maybe it'd have been worth it, I don't know.

i love Terriers- it is fun to watch and has a good sense of humor. Plus I'm a San Diego native and appreciate the setting.

I love the confident, laid back tone of this show, it's never predictable or repetitive, I love it's look (sun-burned photography, if you will) and Donal Logue is really strutting some extroardinary acting chops as the recovering alcoholic. Especially the last episode he was spectacular in my opinion, and so was the episode in all other aspects as a matter of fact. Granted, it's a bit of a cliche and one of those typical roles that fishes for awards, but that doesn't take anything away from the performance itself. To summarize: great show! I do hope it gets renewed because from what I gather it might not.

None of the comedy shows have been able to win my heart for the time being, Running Wilde in particular is painful. Chest hair jokes, really? What's next, a sh*t sandwich joke?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWDjDL2NAQM&feature=related

OT but hey, those are my headphones, ATH-M50

Porn for audiophiles.

I loved Zooey more when she was still an underground indie movie queen, since 500 Days everyone has the hots for her and it's like she's an imaginary world slut.

When you say "Present Tense" do you mean more recent songs? Cause the song is sort of okay at best.

A really interesting mix this real morning

 

Rod Stewart --- Interludings (Never a Dull Moment)

 

Bruce Springsteen --- I want you (The Saint, The Incident & the Main Point Shuffle)

 

Ryan Adams --- Enemy Fire

 

Band of Horses --- Factory

 

Queens of the Stone Age --- Medication

 

Jimi Hendrix --- Drifting

 

Page and Plant --- City Don't Cry

 

Alejandro Escovedo --- Street Songs

 

Flaming Lips --- Ego Tripping at the Gates of Hell

 

Buick McKane --- Wandering Eye

I'm gonna take this order and make a playlist for later today.

Lately - Isobel Campbell and Mark Lanegan

Guest Room - The National

Honey Won't You Let Me In - The Tallest Man On Earth

We Both Go Down Together

Invisible - Josh Rouse

Bienvenido - Josh Rouse

Handshake Drugs - Wilco

Gunshy - Liz Phair

I'm a Humminbird - Eels

Before Departure - PJ Harvey

Don't Watch Me Dancing - Little Joy

my iPod's memory is excellent, there are only two tracks among this selection I haven't played at least a dozen times this month.

Neva Dinova -- I've Got a Feeling

Bright Eyes -- I'll Be Your Friend

Bob Dylan -- Three Angels

Pavement -- Here

Sonic Youth -- Hey Joni

Charlotte Gainsbourg -- La Collection

Sonic Youth -- No2, Pt.2 (the definition of unlistenable, and not that's not part of the song title in parenthesis).

Dawn Landes -- Bodyguard

Eels -- The Longing

Frank Black -- Two Reelers

Golden Smog -- V

Nada Surf -- From Now On

Was on a roll for about three songs before the jarring transition began. SY>Charlotte G>SY>Dawn Landes. Yikes.

Excellent! Following up World Wide Suicide with Animal and Got Some should get the adrenaline flowing. Was really hoping to see Amongst the Waves instead of one of the early BSP singles though.

The Hazards of Love came out in 09, time must seem long in your world . I actually think "The Hazards of Love 4 (The Drowned)" is greater than any track they ever released, even on Picaresque, but hearing the new song recorded with Gillian Welch, I must concur they're bound to return to their old mould. In any case, there's something to look forward to in Januari, concept album or no.

Exactly the opposite for me. I think "One Wing" is the best thing they've done in years (and about the only thing I really liked on the latest album). More of that please, only harder.

 

I don't care for "Bull Black Nova."

 

Blistering rawk doesn't have to be boring and tuneless (which is how I feel about BBN).

Agreed, When "One Wing" bursts open it's the only time on the album I get that joyful feeling of softly exploding sparks in my gut like when a soft drizzle cools off a blistering hot summer day, barely being able to wet your skin before it evaporates again. SBS had plenty of songs that could cheer up any old boring day for me (Either Way, On and On and On, YAMF). With SBS they proved positive music could be interesting too, and with WTA they seem to try very hard to disprove that very same thing.

Yeah, I agree, although I always saw the noise as being more integral to the lyrics / mood of the song, rather than being used randomly or self-consciously. The noise to me is just another instrument, and whether you use bursts of noise or a pedal steel, either should go towards conveying whatever thoughts or feelings you are trying to communicate and your best bet is to hope that resonates with the listener. To me, most of the noise in Wilco's catalog achieves that with the obvious exception of LTYT, where the noise is both a massive distraction and a bit of a song-ruiner... (and what a beautiful song that is minus the noise......)

I adore an acoustic version of LTYT, but I'm hard-pressed to agree the noise "ruins" the track. Sure, sometimes I skip past the wall of sound that ends the song but I still find the noise, it has an interesting effect on me. Perhaps I like that it gives me more time to absorb the melodic part of the song more completely instead of diving into another melody right away. Which is incidently also the reason I like hidden tracks.

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To whomever said "bring back the funk". Please don't. Or please be kidding. I don't want a record that sounds exactly like a previous one, but I'd go any other direction before veering into funk or jam territory. They already crafted the perfect jam with "Impossible Germany". I suspect they won't have an abrupt contrast with the last record by dropping another highly experimental or very rootsy album, but a more bubbly, '60's or '70s pop sound would delight me, a richer sound that rewards repeated listening more than any of the WTA tunes.

...and some souvenirs from bböp's 10th anniversary of his first Wilco show.

 

 

I stood right behind the girl with the dark hair in the back of the picture, straight in front of the camel-drum. Nice quality pictures, I still have to check mine for bluriness. I taped the Impossible Germany solo and a couple of fragments of some of my fav songs they did (Jesus etc, YAMF).

I assume most of the people in attendance were locals, but surprisingly (or perhaps not), there were more than a few people wearing Wilco T-shirts and scarves and the like. So that made for a better-than-average fest, I think.

I was one of the cherry ghosts tee's (if there were others) present, I'm probably a local compared to people who came from abroad but I traveled a good 90 minutes to get to the show location. I also noticed quite a few people with band merchandise and fans who knew a lot of lyrics in the first couple of rows, a little surprising considering the desolate location. I've a hard time pinpointing the level of atmosphere b/c you can't see back past the first couple of rows and the sound of the music blurts out a lot of audience reaction. Since they did the encore I assumed the applause at the end was very enthusiastic, not surprising considering this is the only show Wilco will play in Belgium in the year 2010 (and the level of the performance).

This was my third show and of course it can't begin compare to last year's show in AB (Brussels). Festival gigs are never quite as brilliant by almost any band. That show was AGIB and YHF heavy, and this one played a lot of SBS and WTA in addition to the chunk of the playlist which was once again Yankee Hotel. The overlap of setlists is large enough to wish for some more BT and ST. I'm just in a alt.country-Wilco craze at the moment, that's just my bad luck. You'll have less a "best-of" character in set list in indoor shows so I'm definitely looking forward to that next one.

Highlights:

Bull Black Nova

Handshake Drugs

A Shot In The Arm

I'm The Man Who Loves You

When I think about the less brilliant WTA it makes me look forward to the next album even more, after all wasn't AM followed by Being There? Uncle Tupelo's work was superior to AM but they got over that bump to make BT. I know this is flawed logic but to what degree can logic even be applied to the creative process?

^I'm gonna check that out...

I really enjoyed the read, and it's true, their lyrics did get better after the making of MA.

I've just gotta say that I'm amazed at where this thread/conversation has gone. This is why I spend time here.

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I think they should have got Bill Murray to sing on it.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXAE5hsb-2M

I have a feeling my close surroundings will have to fend off some "I'm kind of fun guy"s randomly interjected into conversations in the near future.

Okay, thanks.

BreadCrumb Trail - Spiderland (Slint)

Go - VS (Pearl Jam)

Summer Babe (Winter Version) - Slanted & Enchanted (Pavement)

Misunderstood - Being There (Wilco)

Marching Bands of Manhattan - Plans (Death Cab)

Homecoming Queen - Vivadixiesubmarinetransmissionplot (Sparklehorse)

sorry to inject some post-90s music into this thread

Well this has been an entertaining read, I came to check replies to my message and up until two days ago there were none and now this monster thread has accumulated in no time. Controversial and opposite standpoints appearantly have the effect of fast replies and rebutals.

Back to the topic: Deeper Down is neither a throwaway track nor one I ever put on repeat. In that respect it's a lot like the whole album. I do think it's place is perfect, as usual the tracks were arranged expertly, even if a little bit of formula is applied. I would like to see a Wilco album start with a couple of slow hypnotizers and end with a kidsmoke-type rocker, just to mess with fans.

zzzzzzzzzzzz... i dont hate the song, but its a good sleeping pill

I've never felt a soporofic quality to a song is a detractor. I love how calming some songs Tweedy created are. I often use Wilco tunes to slow my heartbeat and fall dead asleep.

What you meant to say was boring, sorry to argue semantics lol.

Hmm hate to be a bother but I don't live in the US so a zip code wouldn't do me any good. Can anyone post these since they're publically available anyway?

EDIT: When I meant these, I meant most of them b/c I like pretty much all the artists and songs.

I actually never really appreciated the outro to "Handshake Drugs". I don't think it adds much to the song.

I think the best use of a song bursting out of it's chords would probably be VC, Poor Places or even IATTBYH but I'm not gonna go for the obvious ones b/c I have a soft spot for the outro of LTYT.

I noticed the same narrative trick as in "She's a Jar". The insult of a kiss, the comfort of a kiss/ she begs me not to hit her, she begs me not to miss her.

Other than that I think it's place on the album is logical, it's not dreamy and haunting enough for a last track, not hard rocking enough for an opener and if "One Wing" hadn't stood where it stands, it'd come right before BBN. Notice this would mean a great similarity between AGIB and WTA.

ALTWYS/Hell is Chrome/Spiders

WTS/Deeper Down/Bull Black Nova

Deeper Down is definitely in the top half of WTA songs, but I wouldn't think twice about skipping over it to get to One Wing often times.

Me too, love it, but Muzzle of Bees and Hell is Chrome clearly are the best AGIB tracks for me, I'll stick my hand in the fire for that. Wishful Thinking belongs in the sub-masterpieces of AGIB together with songs such as Theologians. Other songs on AGIB that are clearly superior to Wishful Thinking: Handshake Drugs, Company In My Back, Hummingbird, Less Than You Think. So that's a whole bunch of them right there.

I will stick up for Please Be Patient With Me, as I suspect it gets as little love as LMLYFM, which I don't care for as much.

On a side note (well everything before was a sidenote actually) I am surprised Side With The Seeds didn't beat out You Are My Face, it's definitely a track that exemplifies much of what makes SBS such a great album (Nels' ripping solo's mainly) and is the closest to Impossible Germany in that sense.