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    The Grateful Dead

    in Someone Else's Song

    Posted

    ____IF____ I ever meet Al Franken....and who knows...

     

    I would most certainly advise him that 06 September 1980 is the definitive Althea....


    LIstening to 30 March 1983 PITB right now...Jerry pretty H'd but still pretty damn good...

    The Grateful Dead

    in Someone Else's Song

    Posted

    Oh shit, this is great news. We just resumes Better Call Saul Season 2 last night and have Orange is the New Black hitting this or next week, too. Last day of school today (though I'm teaching summer school). Dead & LLC next week, I believe, too. So much time and so little to do....

     

    Don't forget to watch Fargo on FX....best show on Tv...

    The Grateful Dead

    in Someone Else's Song

    Posted

    For those interested...

     

    2017_05_31_Edited__Garcia__et__al__Batch_04

     

    1971-10-24.gd.sbd.detroit Dark Star

    1972-08-24.gd.sbd.berkeley Bird Song

    1973-12-12.gd.sbd.atlanta Playin’ In The Band

    1974-05-17.gd.sbd.vancouver Truckin' > Nobody's Fault > Eyes > China Doll

    1974-07-19.gd.aud.fresno Bertha Deal BIODTL Scarlet

    1975-09-28.gd.mtx.san_francisco The Music Never Stopped

    1976-05-28.gd.sbd.san_rafael Attics Of My Life

    1976-06-12.gd.mtx.boston Mission In The Rain

    1979-08-14.gd.sbd.denver Stella Blue

    1988-03-16.gd.mtx.oakland Scarlet > Fire

    1988-04-26.jgab.aud.san_rafael Oh, Babe It Ain't No Lie...Oh, The Wind And The Rain...Ballad of Casey Jones

    1989-07-07.gd.aud.philadelphia Little Red Rooster

    Batch05 Teaser

     

                The selected Dark Star from 24 October 1971, as a whole, is a bit average with a fantastic 8 minute portion near the conclusion. Thus, I selected this exceptional portion. It really is an interesting ride as the band wanders through a very interesting Star apex, followed by a nice drift, into a near circus-esque theme led by Lesh, and followed by hybrid jam with Jerry manically going in his own direction and Lesh dropping Star related bombs. Really interesting stuff here from the very underrated Fall 1971 tour…

                The Truckin’ Nobody’s Fault Eyes China Doll from 17 May 1974 again shows the band exceptionally cruising at light speed. It was as if Jerry could do no wrong. The extended 1974 jams with several songs intertwined really highlight how the band really wasn’t just one instrument or performer but truly was a collective effort. I guess the appropriate word might be “synergism” – taken alone each member was impressive, but taken together the combined effort is more impressive than the sum of each individual part. The Eyes soars with tightness and flavor – including the post verse jam. The China Doll is stunningly beautiful.

                Attics of My Life, from a 24 May 1976 studio session, is surprisingly well done. Donna stands out as being quite in tune. Yes – cliché. But, still, it is nice to hear her sound so good. Keith’s rhythmic piano works well too. This tune was probably on the edge of making the June 1976 repertoire…but alas…didn’t make the final cut.

                The Bertha Deal BIODTL Scarlet from 19 July 1974 is hard not to really enjoy. I’ve loved this show for years, but I truly believe the first set is equally as impressive as the well known second. Each of these songs stands, in my opinion, as some of the finest versions ever. Listen and enjoy. I intentionally chose the audience version to get a better “feel.” The soundboard version gets a bit soporific. The audience is crisp and alive, albeit not the best audience recording on record. Occasionally you can really hear the ecstatic screaming erupting from the crowd. Jerry’s high pitched voice sails through the Bertha and the Deal, and Keith is nuts on the BIODTL. Each chord change in the song feels like a true punch. Juxtaposing the audience and board versions of these songs leaves the listener thinking they are not from the same date. The Scarlet is a true masterpiece. Indeed, the Scarlet jam features Jerry sprinting to and fro through numerous themes and apexes.

                The selected Bird Song from 24 August 1972 gets way out there. Jerry switches effortlessly from driving themes to careful drifts while the rhythm paves a direction. Interesting and complicated stuff.

                The 26 April 1988 Jerry Garcia Acoustic Band featuring the Oh Babe, Wind / Rain, and Ballad of Casey Jones provides a glimpse of what Jerry’s future might just have been but for Vitamin H.

                The 28 September 1975 Music Never Stopped is a lot of fun. Weir and Lesh lay a thick base and Jerry’s guitar soloing is sassy and arrogant…and there is the Matt Kelly harmonica.

                Continuing with sassy, the 07 July 1989 Rooster has Jerry again sounding almost arrogant with his soloing. This is another show that has very obvious and well known highlights that leaves songs like this a bit hidden. This is a fantastic and powerful and nearly delirious Rooster.

                The 12 December 1973 Playin is a masterpiece. It’s fascinating that upon reaching December of 1973, and the band having played Playin’ on most of their shows from 1972 and 1973, that the band could still deliver a completely unique reading as the 12 December version. The jam wanders through numerous intricate jams that are really impressive. The ending return to earth is marked with a Jerry tiger-esque meltdown laced with massive Lesh feedback. Wow…Again, the Grateful Dead…Wow…oh…and this version is unique in that Donna took the night off to have a baby – so we get the full Playin’ song without her, with all due respect, cacophony…

                The Mission in the Rain from 12 June 1976 begs the question of why the band stopped playing this tune after the paucity of June 1976 versions. Indeed, this versions swings with passion and groove (e.g., listen to Jerry sing, “There’s some satisfaction in the San Francisco rain…”). At least we have the few versions that exist...

                Finally, there is a great rendition of Scarlet Fire from 16 March 1988. The transition from Scarlet to Fire features a frantic Jerry for 1988 that really darts back and forth. Nice…

                And, there is a teaser for Batch05…

                Enjoy…

              

     

    https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ueelr6x7km5rl40/AADvNa3cgvFVjmDSJLEwXfqUa?dl=0

    password rogerrafa

    The Grateful Dead

    in Someone Else's Song

    Posted

    Everyone that's seen the movie has had a very positive reaction. I don't understand the idea of reviewing movies people haven't seen yet, but I guess that's what internet message boards are for.

     

    I agree - - i really enjoyed seeing hte movie at an actual movie theater with great sound and lounge chairs. It was well done.

     

    My "random thoughts" were not meant as criticism - just things I found interesting.

    The Grateful Dead

    in Someone Else's Song

    Posted

    I think Bob and Phil (and probably mickey bill) blame Vince for the 92,3,4 and 5 heroin abuse.

     

    Kind of hypocritical considering the whole ethos of the band was to not blame anyone for anything.

     

    I think the Phil and Bob realized in 92ish that they were at a cross roads. They tried limiting who had access to jerry. Vince fell through the cracks...or Jerry found him...who knows...


    Another diss - no mention of Bill Graham...

    The Grateful Dead

    in Someone Else's Song

    Posted

    Saw the "long strange trip" movie last night...really enjoyed it.

    Random thoughts -

    Jerry emphasizing from the very beginning of the band members listening to each other on stage.

    Jerry only wanting to have fun - nonstop.

    Jerry arguing that the violence associated with the Hell's Angels was caused by society as a whole - not solely by the Hell's Angels...

    Jerry crying during the apex of morning dew on 26 May 1972 and the story of the recording engineer...

    Donna looking very young...

    Dosing everyone during a Playboy After Dark show...

    Jerry aging year to year much more rapidly than other band members...

    Jerry marrying (abruptly) girlfriend from late 1960s...being happy for about 3 years...then using heroin again. She asked him if he was using again...He told her it was time for her to leave...

    Complete no-mention of Vince Welnick...

    Jerry becoming the leader he never wanted to be...


    It was simultaneously tragic and inspiring...

    The Grateful Dead

    in Someone Else's Song

    Posted

    I like Jarnow as a writer and as a knowledgeable fan, but with any "list" they really boil down to personal tastes, obviously. I'd take an early 80s "Wheel" over a '76 'Wheel," for example, and I would have definitely included a great '73/early '74 China->Rider with the meat of a Feelin' Groovey in it. And any list like this deserves a "Bertha," too.

     

    Listening to 28 August 1981 right now....amazing Wheel....

     

    Shake > Lost > Circ > Wheel > jam > Never Trust...

    yup...its that good...

    The Grateful Dead

    in Someone Else's Song

    Posted

    fun read. And I love the accompanying illustration.

     

    Ouch, only 3 songs post 1980.

     

    I think the list is too 2nd-set heavy.

     

    I'll put in for the Feb 1973 Lincoln NE Big Railroad Blues.

     

     

    I would also put in for an earlier version of Wharf Rat than they listed ('77 I think?). I tend to think the "best" versions of their songs are more often than not when they're fresh and new. 

     

    _completely_ agree. that Big RR blues is, in my opinion, the finest i've heard (c.f., 10.19.1974 version).

    The Grateful Dead

    in Someone Else's Song

    Posted

    For those interested...

    2017_04_30_Edited__Garcia__et__al__Batch_03

    1968-08-24.gd.sbd.los_angeles Dark Star > Stephen > 11 Jam > Death Don’t
    1971-11-07.gd.fm.san_francisco Me & My Uncle > The Other One
    1972-02-06.garsau.fm.san_francisco Masterpiece
    1973-02-15.gd.matrix.madison Here Comes Sunshine
    1974-02-22.gd.sbd.san_francisco Playin’ In The Band
    1974-03-23.gd.matrix.daly_city China Cat > Rider
    1974-05-21.gd.mtx.seattle Big River
    1974-06-16.gd.matrix.des_moines Race Is On
    1976-06-12.gd.mtx.boston Cassidy
    1977-10-15.gd.sbd.dallas Sampson & Delilah
    1979-05-13.gd.aud.portland Scarlet > Fire
    1983-04-09.gd.sbd.hampton West L.A. Fadeaway
    1989-07-04.gd.sbd.buffalo Cold Rain & Snow
    Batch04 Teaser

    West LA Fadeaway was always a nice jam-ish kind of song during the late 1980s. It got the crowd moving and had some good punch. The early versions though from, for example, 1983were pretty seedy. The structure wasn’t as tight but the result was an almost repugnant sound that made you almost smell the back corner toilet of a rent-by-the-hour motel. Yuck…The 09 April 1983 version really lends this feel. I wonder if this was always Hunter’s intent with the song…

    The Dark Star > Stephen > 11 > Death from 24 August 1968 was always a favorite of mine. The Jerry wandering during the Star is not oppressive or depressive but rather curiously intense. Also, the repetitive Pig keyboard ditty is low in the mix which doesn’t hinder the listener’s ability to discern the complicated Lesh / Weir / Jerry interplay. There are other versions from this era that are more challenging to enjoy. The Stephen 11 Death are also really well performed. This summer 1968 material is interesting because it was no longer brand new but not yet mastered (as in 1969).

    Continuing with shows I’ve always appreciated, the 15 October 1977 Sampson represents just one golden nugget from a chest of gems. Indeed, I’ve always felt that 15 October 1977 is arguably the most underrated show from 1977. The Terrapin > >>> Sug magnolia is exquisite for many different reasons, but here, we have a scorching Sampson with Jerry improvising over the chords like an angry chainsaw.

    Spring and summer 1979 Scarfires were different than the 1977 and 1978 cohorts. The 79 versions seemed more probing and inquisitive and less about immediately reaching either massive peak or immediately reaching a Persian-induced slow transition. The 13 May 1979 Scarlet Fire is carefully cultivated with its aim seemingly less directed toward the end result but moreso toward the journey. Take, for example, the in-song jam during Scarlet. The ending peak is well done but not orgasmic per se. Quite the contrary, its effectiveness is the careful layering from Jerry that slowly builds to an effective crescendo. The transition to Fire is similarly built and really represents a deep but awake improvisation journey from Jerry. It is a fun transition because Jerry dashes about between obviously leading the direction, at other times following the direction, at other times dashing from the direction, and at other times seemingly being swallowed by the direction. The Fire is scorching as well…

    The Race is On from 16 June 1974 is a fun version. Keith’s piano offer a bit of first place tension while Jerry’s soloing through the song makes race worth hearing. Also, this matrix version provides a really unique mix.

    1976 was an interesting year. The band, in my opinion, was battling three different fronts – especially in the early June shows – rust, Mickey, and Persia. Obviously the band was rusty. Obviously switching from one to two drummers required an adjustment. And, more than likely, transitioning from Fall 1971 through 1974 Jerry to Persian Jerry required an adjustment. Indeed, I really don’t think the early June shows provide too much exceptional material. But, alas, the 12 June 1976 version of Cassidy is the exception to the rule. This version, while short compared with late 1980’s versions, really pops during the finale solo. The song portion is tight and Donna is not cacophonic.

    1975, of course, featured the official release of Blues For Allah which included Slipknot!. Long before the official release, Jerry can be heard including the Slipknot riff in various jams (e.g., 1974-06-20 post Eyes jam). 1974-02-22 Playin’ was another example. The version very much stands on its own as an impressively, explorative, intense and tender reading of Playin – also including a couple Slipknot stretches.

    The Here Comes Sunshine from 15 February 1973 is a masterpiece and in my opinion is the standard from which all other versions are compared. Each second, in my opinion, is exceptional.

    The Cow Palace show on March 23, 1974 is obviously notorious for the PUMUP, but other songs were exceptionally played. Cassidy was nailed soundly. And, so was the China Rider. This version is carefully and almost slowly paced which allowed each jam portion to really stand out and drip. The Weir solo is exceptional and the ensuing Jerry led groove jams cooks. Throughout are numerous Lesh bombs.

    21 May 1974 is of course known for the 16 hour PITB, but the Big River is worth hearing. Jerry was on fire...

    04 July 1989 had some great moments. The jam during Cold Rain & Snow reached a nice amount of intensity…

    Fall 1971 was interesting for many reasons, one of which was the bands obvious attempts to plug songs into the middle of exploration jams. 07 November 1971 featured a common variant of Me & My Uncle plugged into the middle of The Other One. The Muncle is very tight and raw. The ensuing Other One picks up sprints through several themes before the final verse. The “in-song” muncles always, to me, seem more intense and worth hearing then early first set versions.

    Finally, there is the beautiful version Masterpiece from the 06 February 1972 Garsau show. Jerry’s voice is so clean and strong and matched with impeccable plucking during the soloing. Truly this version, for lack of a better word, was a masterpiece…

    As this is the third batch, a “batch 4” teaser is included for the next batch to come…

    Enjoy…

    https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ueelr6x7km5rl40/AADvNa3cgvFVjmDSJLEwXfqUa?dl=0

    password rogerrafa

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