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I love Wilco.

Seen a lot about these kids. They get brought up a lot on IORR (It's only rock n roll), the Stones equivalent to VC.

I just really like WTA. Not only do I like the songs themselves, but that record means a lot to me personally. I do understand lots of people don't, as tastes do differ.

 

As far as Candyfloss goes spongebob, I've actually felt the same way! That would be a decent opener. Better than Cant Stand It at least. Then the pop-radio single that Reprise needed could have been I'm Always In Love.

Can't Stand It is a solid tune.

 

I remember once falling into the trap of saying how much I hated this song after reading Learning How to Die. You'll grow out of it. Besides, as Sir Stewart pointed out, there are plenty of Wilco songs to genuinely dislike. You should also check out the second half of Sky Blue Sky. Or the middle of The Whole Love.

I know all the songs, haha, and although Sky sometimes bores me, I've grown to appreciate Walken, Leave Me, etc...I actually enjoy all of WTA, and TWL. I just really find Can't Stand It annoying. It's all opinion. I may be one of the few here who will vouche for any song on WTA.

I know zero about recording music, but I've always felt something was amiss with I Can't Stand It. I love the song, but regardless of volume level, it doesn't ever quite sound right to my ears. Remember: This is the song Reprise got involved with, putting in the bells, etc. I don't mind the bells, but the sound doesn't quite match the rest of the album. Perhaps that's Reprise's doing, since they wanted this to be pushed for radio play (which they didn't put forth much effort)?

Can't  Stand It is actually probably the only Wilco song, I genuinely don't really like. I can't stand the bells (pun intended) like you said, it doesn't really feel like the rest of the record. I don't know. I can listen to it sometimes, but I often start Summerteeth at She's a Jar.

Not a fan of Kid, but this is very cool.

How come when I said the same about myself, Louieb called me out and got a chorus of support?

Well I wasn't part of that chorus of support, but I did read it all. I didn't join in because I felt in the middle about it. There are so many things that people believe that can be credited to the times they grew up in. And I get that. It was common to be homophobic until not long ago. Does that mean everyone over 40 is or has to be against gays? No. It's just common. But just as people are a product of their times, there should always be a time in everyones life where they sit and say "All outside factors aside, what do I think is moral and humane." And after that discussion with yourself, you have your own opinions. Not mommy and daddy's opinions, or Sunday school teacher or whatever.

Well, I don't think anyone would ever have accused Zappa of being a traditional kind of guy...not with kids who he named Moon Unit, Dweezil, Ahmet and Diva.

He did like the idea of being a father and was a proponent of capitalism, as he wanted to sell his music. Politically, I would say he was center-left: pro-civil rights, pro-choice, in favor of taxing churches, anti-establishment in many ways. Like most of us, not that easy to pigeonhole. Considering the times, it's not surprising that he was sexist and what we would now consider homophobic, as was most of the country.

I see. And like you said for that last bit, that was a product of the times. Not necessarily the person.

I almost hate to derail this thread further, but since you asked...

 

Of course, FZ died about 20 years ago, but in some ways he was considered conservative for a rock icon: wife and kids, definitely a patriarch type, and quite the free market businessman. Vocally anti-drug, to boot.

 

On the other hand, check his comments regarding Republicans in general - the song When The Lie's So Big - and Nixon and Reagan in particular - Dickie's Such An Asshole for the former, and the infamous video of You Are What You Is, showing the latter in the electric chair, which MTV ultimately pulled. In 1986, he said, "The biggest threat to America today is not communism. It's the turning of this country into a fascist theocracy, and everything that's happened during the Reagan administration has put us right down that pipe." 

 Getting so off topic...but that's ok. So basically he was a conservative in the sense he was a traditional kind of guy, with no intentions to stray away from that, but hated the way the "conservatives" ran the country because they did nothing to actually preserve that way of life, they only sought to shoot the country in a less productive direction?

Mr. Heartbreak: Zappa is a pretty conservative guy, correct? I don't know too much about his personal life/beliefs.

Michigan:

 

One of the lakes on either side of the state (Either Huron or Michigan) they are both beautiful in the summer. The Flint Local 432 venue in Flint. Ann Arbor's record stores. Mackinac bridge.

Revisiting Whiskytown's "Strangers Almanac" after almost a year without a listen (for some god awful reason..) What a damn record! I'm convinced this is the best things Ryan has ever written.

I'm up there a lot. I live in Flint, and my family has a cottage up there. Traverse City in itself is great.

See I felt that way about Love and Theft-Together Through Life as well. But I like Tempest a lot. More original melodies, awesome lyrics. I just thought it was a strong release. To my ears anyway.

Any other Dylan fans as pleased with his release last year as I am? We definitely needed something stronger than Modern Times and Together Through Life.

Shouldn't Be Ashamed? Wonderful!

I'm very pleased to know you are that way uncool2pillow. Its refreshing. Jesus does not once preach against gays. Its found in the Old Testament, right next to where it says men shall be punished for shaving their beards, and women who experience menstrual cycles shall be put in isolation. I just don't like how things are picked out of the Bible, and other things are left alone. Either take it all or leave it all.

Not a huge fan. I think its a pretty cool thing, nothing against it. All the guys in my band besides me are going to see them, but I never was impressed enough to start digging in. Maybe one day.

I think the opposition to it is, as a general rule, religious based. "It is an abomination, the Bible says so, end of story. God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve."

It's pretty hard to make a logical argument against it, just as it is hard to argue effectively that one can prove (or disprove, for that matter) the existence of God.

You're absolutely correct. Religion is the only thing that fights the other side of the battle. Which is a tragedy. Aren't we supposed to be moving on from that? Not to offend any religious people on the board, but there is more hate and confusion and struggle coming from your beliefs, than the "unconditional love" that is mentioned in the Bible.

Sweet. I'll play a lot more than I already do now haha

There were some great stories and we did enjoy it but I was really craving some of the music at many points.

I don't really buy the director's insistence that he had intended it to be that way from the start but, whatever. 

It was a glorious homage to a band that deserves all of it and more. 

Thats how I felt. Which was a bummer, but it just made me  listen to the Replacements nonstop! Haha..

Kinda Blue Sessions will be cool. I'll snag that along with a couple others. Pretty good list.

Ah yes the Strokes. Don't know how I missed them. They thrive on that New York scene. I have yet to venture into Modest Mouse.