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something tells me you're still waiting for the second coming with a jean jacket and mullet.

yeah, really. let's go laugh about it on our blog...

thanks

if anybody can offer me one, i'd love it. thanks!

Robbie's playing is not just "pentatonic wankery". His playing on the first 2 albums is really great... he played subtle guitar parts in a keyboard-dominated band. However, his playing in the later years ('74-'76) is pretty much how you described it: too flashy and going against his earlier attitude. But the comment makes me think you have only heard his playing in the Last Waltz, which is the "warren report" of rock 'n roll (as Richard use to call it).

The Band is one of the greatest groups in the history of music. To say that they weren't accomplished musicians is just ridiculous. Garth Hudson is a genius... an unbelievable musician and true original. As others have pointed out, Levon Helm's "bayou folk" drumming has been so influential to so many drummers (go on over to Glenn Kotche's site and see who he lists as one of his biggest influences...). Rick Danko's bass playing was wonderfully original, so essential to those songs. And Richard Manuel, besides having the most breathtaking voice in music, contributed so much with his energetic rhythm piano playing. And that's just forgetting they had the best singers of anybody. The rugged mix of Richard's full and falsetto voices, Levon's southern swagger, and Rick in the middle, was among the finest in all of music.

thanks to those who sent me the album

i'd also like a copy if someone can send it to me

everybody comments on the first track, but i think its pretty obvious that it was made in that way for a specific reason. its not a case of him adding a bunch of things for the hell of it. all those sounds are in there to create an atmosphere... confused/frustrated/chaotic/etc.

was there any Califone merch (shirts)?

Oh come on.....I saw this show on Saturday night and while KoL were okay, they were not even close to Dylan who put on a great show with a great band and classic material. KoL were totally generic and bland, but not offensive.

 

More on all this later.

 

LouieB

ummm... I agree with you. That's what my post said. Maybe you looked at the wrong post?

Bob's set didn't do a lot for me. You're not realy seeing Bob do much. The songs are so incredibly different live that his original writing of them hardly matters. It's really just about his band, which is, after all, a pack of mercenaries.

The songs are not that different. Key changes, tempo changes, phrasing, etc., all keep the songs exciting in different arrangements. Dylan treats his songs as something that grows and evolves. The album versions are just documentation of how a song sounds at the time is recorded. People who can't get past that are missing tons and tons of great music.

there is no way they played 1/6 as good as Dylan last night. it was the best Dylan show I've seen. Kings of Leon were pretty bad... not that interesting and the singer had a very annoying Axl Rose thing going on. Just my opinion of course.

There's a distinct difference between trite and simplistic.

 

way to look like an idiot

You weren't even talking about the same Jay Bennett album that I am. You were talking about one that came out 2 years ago. I guess you didn't notice that the thread was dedicated to the NEW album of his. It's funny that whenever Jay plays a solo, he's overplaying and killing the song. When Nels takes one, he's "serving the song" and "capturing the essence of Tweedy's lyrics." When Tweedy writes lesser lyrics, they're "simplistic" and "fun". When Bennett does it, they are "trite".

way to look like an asshole

How dare you condescend to me just cause I thought I didn't like it even though I never heard it.

 

But seriously, (sorry too much monkeying around ) does it have the overcompressed vocal sound and trite lyrics that undermined his last effort, because I would guess it contains the literate and imaginative arrangements for a somewhat vast array of instruments his last effort did as well.

Trite lyrics? You have heard the new Wilco songs, haven't you?

'Wait for it to click' remarks are generally interpreted as 'I have reached a higher state of enlightenment than you' around these parts.

I didn't mean it that way at all. I just meant that for me this album was a grower.

what the hell is your problem? you don't have any idea what you're talking about. all's i said was that the album needs to grow on you.

what specifically did you think was overproduced? i think there is a fine line between detail/layering and overproducing. these songs are very well recorded and there aren't any overdubs or instruments that don't belong. Those 2 tracks I mentioned are the only real out there sonic experimentations, and those are done that way on purpose. It wasn't to get a song perfect and keep adding and adding and adding, but to make a creative and skeletal yet lush sounding track. The songs all sound great and well produced. They all have little details that you find as you listen more and more, but only add to the songs. I felt the way you did at first too, but I just kept listening to it. It will click, but this album needs to grow on you. It did for me and I absolutely love it! Jay should be extremely proud of this record.

Jay's new album "The Magnificent Defeat" is really great. It took me a bit to really let it sink in, but after seeing him perform nearly all of it at Fitzgerald's, I am really loving it. The biggest criticism people seem to have about his work is that it is overproduced, but this one does not suffer from that. While there are a few songs that have that junkyard/"sonic experimentation" style of his ("Slow Beautifully Seconds Faster," "Phone Book"), this album has a great sound and production. "5th Grade," "Out All Night," "Wide Open," "Replace You" (a Courtesy Move recording, with John Stirratt and Ken Coomer) are all great songs. The last song, "Good As Gold," is stripped back with only acoustic guitar and Jay's voice, which has improved a lot. I highly recommend you check this album out!

www.jay-bennett.com

www.myspace.com/jaybennett

I have read that the guest will be Ken Coomer. This show is going to be broadcast on a radio station... can someone tape it and put it up on Dime?

http://www.wrlt.com/

His singing on his latest album is great.

I am not even going to bother defending Jay here anymore. He is a great musician, and can play guitar as good or better than anyone out there. I think the people who continue to put him down let the fact that Jeff Tweedy had a falling out with him have an influence on their opinion of him. I have met Jay, and he is one of the nicest people you will meet. He is building a great solo career. And by the way, his new album is fantastic. It is miles better than any of the new Wilco songs I've been hearing.

shut up. (Lazy Locomotive)

also, was the first song a cover of The Jayhawks' "Dying On The Vine"?

seriously, anybody tape this?