Vacant Horizon

The Live Archives Series has been excellent as well. There's also tons of unreleased nuggets sitting in vaults or floating around out there. Plug the stuff listed above onto your iPod and you'll have plenty of Neil to listen to for the next couple of decades.

well said. i am moving in that direction. glad to see you like broken arrow. can't believe the critics panned it. i think it is at least as good as ragged glory, if not better. Big Time, Loose Change, Scattered...great stuff. also, those nuggets you talked about, my hunch is we'll see them on archives II, if it ever comes out.

Based on some of your past comments regarding Neil, I could have saved you the trouble and just told you he isn't your favorite artist.

cortez-

part of the fun of having a favorite artist is being critical of them and falling in love and detesting certain parts of their output...so i take your post personally!!! joke

I used to be a completist, but found myself buying music I detested made by artists I liked. Now I just pick up what appeals to me and If I don't care for it I don't get it, in the past this would have made me jittery like a junkie looking for afix. Now its no big deal.

well said. as another poster said, it's been difficult for me to just put the songs i like on the ipod and leave other tunes from the album off. also, it's so hard to not have 'everything' by an artist. but, its becoming less of a deal.

I've definitely become more discerning regarding what I put on my iPod. I tend to get a bit obsessive regarding my current favorite songs/bands and hunt down all their recordings and overdose. About 2 months ago, my iPod and Computer crashed back to back and I lost everything. I upgraded my iPod, but have been very selective about what I put on there and what I keep on there and it's been a revelation. Makes the music listening experience all the better. There's something psychological that goes on when you just have too much crap and muddled b.s. on your iPod that you've got to wade through. Plus, when you are exclusive about what you put on there, your random mixes are so much better...although, I do have all 360+ podcasts of "This American Life" on there which causes some difficulty on the random setting.

 

I can't comment on Neil, but I've found that being a completist is highly overrated.

right on! i just went ape shit over being a completist over springsteen, dylan, neil young, postrock, wilco/UT/Son volt etc. like you, it was just all too much! although i love the ipod, it is so easy to just put so much crap on there and so liberating to put only the best stuff on there. i ask myself-do i really care if i ever hear this song again? if the answer is no, then it goes away! glad to find some kindred spirits.

Rider, he clearly isn't your favorite artist. I guess it sounded cool though.

well said shakey- damn, i really wanted him to be my favorite!!

i am a HUGE neil fan, but i don't have his entire catalouge... however much i can appreciate his really weird stuff, i don't think i will ever be able to listen to it all the way through, same with the overtly crude frank zappa stuff.

same way with zappa for me too. and with neil, it is really hard to listen to old ways, landing on water, and blue notes all the way through. really bad

good for you.

 

I am in a phase where I hate most of my music, and any new music I hear is crap.

 

So I have been filling my iPod up with movies and TV shows.

dude, i am right there with you. hate most of the old, and new. i wanna get all the wes anderson films on my ipod and go from there.

so, for years i have been saying neil young is my all time favorite artist. however, i am finally coming to grips with the fact that i basically can't listen to half his catalog. so i am deleting all of that crap from my ipod. this is also happening with my other favorite bands...wilco, dylan, etc. anyone else have this issue? i have tried for years to really like 'all of neil' and 'all of dylan'...and i do, in my head, but in reality some of it is cringe worthy!

If you google 'cocaine' and 'last waltz' you'll find out way more than you ever wanted to know about the making of that film. After I read about it, the editing to erase the coke hanging out of Neil Young's nose during, what? Helpless? and his jaw going like he was grinding wheat, I just saw it a bit differently.

 

Not to take away from still being able to see all of those performers at that point in history. Man, I do love that.

yeah, neil totally looks retarded. it's amazing how these dudes could be so wasted and play. when i just have a little buzz i can't play guitar worth shit.

Thanks!

 

EDIT: Now that I've listened, I am glad with where the finished version ended up... Still fun to listen to.

agreed. it's basically a totally different song. it's evolution points to how much his band helps with arrangements of songs.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001GEM2V..._rd_i=163856011

free mp3 of Mississippi (TOOM outtake) up at amazon.

I don't even know what I'm doing in here

rock ON!!

sincerely,

your new bff

Hey, you win. All right.

given what else is going on in the world, this is all pretty ridiculous though, eh?

I think Cliff was probably the best musician in the band. Lars drumming is not that great, really. I think the band's strength is in riffs/rhythms, not leads.

i actually like the riffs on st. anger. just the lyrics and of course the 'loudness'...

I take great issue with the statement that Kirk Hammett is a mediocre musician. That dude can play the shit out of a guitar.

he's not distinguishable. there's no difference between kirk and any other metal player. he may be a bit rawer. that's it. play some phil collin from def leppard and kirk from tallica and i bet we couldn't tell the difference.

The money they make is what we the fans are willing to pay them. If they fill the seats and rotate product through the bins they make more money. Same thing for athletes. While I do believe that in each sport there are only a handful of athletes who do draw fans (Michael Jordan, Tiger, Kobe, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Sammy when he played etc

The money they make is what we the fans are willing to pay them. If they fill the seats and rotate product through the bins they make more money. Same thing for athletes. While I do believe that in each sport there are only a handful of athletes who do draw fans (Michael Jordan, Tiger, Kobe, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Sammy when he played etc

The Black Album was released before Nirvana broke. I'm not a big Metallica fan, but you are not making a good argument against them at all Rider.

point taken on the black album. but no response to the rest of my argument? just 'not a good argument' ?

I'm not a huge Metallica fan, but these guys are about as far from this comment as they can be. They "clicked" in the 1980's with no airplay, not a lot of marketing support while playing a brand of music that was not in flavor. They built their fan base the old fashioned way, they toured and toured and toured while sales of their albums slowly grew and grew until the albums were selling millions. They definately did not exploit the "angst" atmosphere of the 1990's as you seem to think.

i am beginning to think that bands, rock stars ect. are like sports figures. they make too much money. it's utterly disgusting. i don't give a shit how much they toured. that's what you do in a band. most people work a lot harder in a lot less fun jobs and never 'make it'. they are mediocre musicians at best and for them to make the money they do is a condemnation of our priorities in society. and they did exploit the 'angst' of the 90s. jesus christ, what do you call the black album, load, reload. that huge change in direction was totally in response to nirvana ect.

The first episode of season 3 is floating around on the interwebs, as well as first 2 of season 2 of Californication.

yes, dexter looks awesome and promising. totally compelling premise and i love that dude who plays dex. creepy, yet i have sympathy for him. californication is scraping the bottom of the barrel. they blew their wad the first season. doesn't mean i wont watch though.

There's more effort going into making the show look good than actually making a good show.

it was good up until josh jackson, or whatever his name is. terrible.

There's definitely potential, but I think it has miles and miles to go before it could be mentioned in the same sentence as Dexter or Californication. Based on the first show, I'd keep watching Entourage before True Blood. But .... I'll give it a few weeks.

 

Anna Paquin's Bayou accent? Pretty rough, but her friend (Tara ??) is worse.

entourage is so bad! like, terrible.

bold statement. i greatly dislike weeds. i do like dexter and californication quite a bit, but seriously?

 

i guess you never watched the sopranos...

well, let me put this in context. we're talking about TV here, not fine art, which is overblown as well. given what's on TV, Weeds, Dexter, Cali are at least a bit compelling. sopranos ok for a few seasons, but no pay off. seriously, wack tony, that would have been cool. again, we're talking about TV.

all of this is totally frustrating!! we've had electric cars since the 70s. you'd think that by now we would all have electric cars or at least hybrids. i like what neil young is doing in his attempt to do away with roadside refueling. however, other forces are at work. GM had the electric car (see Who Killed the Electric Car documentary). then they killed it, literally. they could have been the leader in market shares. however, contrary to popular belief, we don't live in a free market. if we did, innovation for alternative energy would be through the roof as would technology. but, interlocking boards of directors, among other things, conspire to keep the status quo. auto makers are in bed with big oil so neither have any interest in alternative fuels. nor do they have any interest in innovation. hell, we should have cars that last a life time with totally replacable parts, but that would mean the end of several industries. ironically, record store owners are told it's just too bad as digital downloads take over the market place. it is so god damn frustrating that this is not happening with energy and there is NO EXCUSE!

Tusk-Fleetwood Mac-$4.99 today. so happens to be on my list, so i am getting that!

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001FCZ8Z...91&sr=102-7

couldn't find the recent lindsey thread. so started new one.

c

I'll listen for this the second time through. Generally though isn't this a problem across the board these days not just metallica?

 

 

 

True enough.

yeah, these guys really don't deserve the money they have made. they are just totally mediocre artists and just so happened to click in the 90s when angst was king. spoiled brats.