Why we love Keef

[dazzler]

Did anyone here ever see the New Barbarians? In high school, a long, long time ago, my idols--even started our own club....

 

That was a long, long time ago.

 

 

Arrrr, I've got a boot from The Largo in 79. Might have to pull that out whilst I work in the galley.

[Sir Stewart]

That's awesome.

[LouieB]

I read about half that article last night and I am still waiting to read something interesting......

 

LouieB

[Sir Stewart]

I read about half that article last night and I am still waiting to read something interesting......

 

LouieB

 

Who are you, Mick Jagger?

[LouieB]

Who are you, Mick Jagger?

Nah, I mean so far there is alot of fucking each others girl friends, taking alot of drugs, hanging out with drug dealers and being broke and evading taxes. I was hoping for some info on how the album became a classic (because it wasn't when it first came out...)

 

Even the little writeups on the songs indicated that much of it was done on the fly and with session people.

 

LouieB

[Sir Stewart]

In that bigass Stones coffee table book, Jagger talks about his dislike for the album, arguing that the songs don't work on their own for the most part, that the album can only really be appreciated as a whole. Then he says that the band runs through "Ventilator Blues" for each effing tour!! But it never sounds right, they can't get that groove.

[Analogman]

He also says he would like to re-mix the album.

[LouieB]

He also says he would like to re-mix the album.

Actually this was one of the main criticisms of it when it came out, that it sounded like crap. That hasn't stopped people from treating it like a masterpeice in the meantime.

 

LouieB

[Dude]

Even the little writeups on the songs indicated that much of it was done on the fly and with session people.

 

LouieB

But doesn't that describe just about every Stones album going as far back as Aftermath?

[LouieB]

But doesn't that describe just about every Stones album going as far back as Aftermath?

You may be right, at least they brought in keyboard players alot, but I have always assumed that the rhythm section was the Stones.

 

LouieB

[Dude]

You may be right, at least they brought in keyboard players alot, but I have always assumed that the rhythm section was the Stones.

 

LouieB

I was pretty shocked that Charlie doesn't even play on Tumbling Dice according to that - it was the engineer.

[LouieB]

I was pretty shocked that Charlie doesn't even play on Tumbling Dice according to that - it was the engineer.

That was the kind of info I was talking about. Charlie is actually a fairly proficient drummer, I can't figure out how he couldn't play a figure like that.

 

LouieB

[rghammo]

I've heard all the stories about who did and did not play on what, but Exile is still my favorite thing they've done. It never occurs to me to think about who is playing what unless I'm playing music trivia or something. It holds together as an album so well. I agree that the songs individually may not be as strong as some off their other albums from that period, but I think this really is an example of the correct use of the term masterpiece.

[LouieB]

Exile became a masterpiece, not unlike Pet Sounds, over time. While it has some great stuff on it, my heart is still with many of those albums of the London years such as Aftermath, Between the Buttons, Beggars Banquet, and all those great singles from the early days.

 

LouieB

[fortuneinmyhead]

to see the exile songs in action you must see "ladies and gentlement, the rolling stones" ... available now I think only on bootleg dvd, but worth the $.

[Analogman]

to see the exile songs in action you must see "ladies and gentlement, the rolling stones" ... available now I think only on bootleg dvd, but worth the $.

 

Yes, I wish they would put that out.

 

I have bits of this in a Rolling Stones documentary I have on video.

[LouieB]

I finally finished this article (RS goes straight to the pile in the bathroom.... ) and frankly the article has little of interest in it other than the fact that Keith Richards was a junkie and that some of the others around him indulged too. Perhaps the book has some details about the actual music making that are interesting, but I found the totality of the article kinda dull.

 

The author's claim that a whole bunch of people are now dead (including John Lennon and Gram Parsons) as a result of having been involved in these sessions is total bullshit. Sure some became junkies and died (and this WAS 35 years ago too) from being involved in the scene, but come on...I just don't buy it.

 

LouieB

[Sir Stewart]

I finally finished this article (RS goes straight to the pile in the bathroom.... ) and frankly the article has little of interest in it other than the fact that Keith Richards was a junkie and that some of the others around him indulged too. Perhaps the book has some details about the actual music making that are interesting, but I found the totality of the article kinda dull.

Kinda like their recent Zeppelin cover story, which was basically a Cliffs Notes version of Hammer of the Gods.

[Dude]

Kinda like their recent Zeppelin cover story, which was basically a Cliffs Notes version of Hammer of the Gods.

 

"1. Red snapper
 I. Nose strategically inserted
 II. Multiple orgasms
 III. Bonzo at the scene..."