Albert Tatlock Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 "People of a certain age find it very bewildering."That quote probably applies to me. 'Does music still matter? Yes ... and no!'Jarvis Cocker, guest editor, sits down with a cast of famous friends to discuss pop in the 21st century, iPods and selling baked beans. Sunday October 15, 2006The Observer Setting the sceneJarvis: I've been asked to edit the Observer Music Monthly, and I thought it would be interesting to talk about what music is for. Now that sounds a stupidly vague question. But I'll explain why I'm posing it and why you've kindly agreed to join me here in Dublin. It seems as if music is everywhere these days: on TV, in hotel lobbies; it's inescapable in modern life. But is it being used for its correct purpose? Is there a correct purpose? I've made a list, which I'll read out. Music can be for: Mood Instruction Dancing Communication Atmosphere Revolution Comfort Soundtrack Advertising To start with: advertising. I don't live in England any more but I came back the other day and was watching telly and that Johnny Cash song came on ['Hurt']. But it was advertising Nike trainers, and that struck me as being a particularly inappropriate use of music. Nick Cave: I personally find that offensive. Iggy Pop's 'Lust For Life' was used for a car ad. I used to drive around in my car when I was 19 screaming that song, and it had an anti-establishment purpose. For it now to be appropriated by the advertising industry ... I think that's fucked. I don't know what situation the people who have written the music are in, if they need the money or ... I'm not trying to take the moral high ground but I wouldn't allow my music to be used in that way. Jarvis: Do you get offers? Nick Cave: Often. There's a song called 'Red Right Hand', and a sanitary napkin company back in New Zealand wanted to use it, which was tempting ... but that was the closest I've ever come. You do get an enormous amount of money waved in front of you, more money than you make anywhere else in the industry, and all you have to do is say yes ... Paul Morley: In the early 1980s New Order were offered huge amounts of money to do adverts and they would just say no, and then a soft drinks company in America offered them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kicking_Television Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 "People of a certain age find it very bewildering."That quote probably applies to me. Beth Orton: Why could it be dangerous? Jarvis: Because they're not taking notice of where they're walking. Nick Cave: But they might be taking notice of something more important than where they're walking, which is music. Love it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mjpuczko Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 i'll have to read this when i get home. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fritz Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 It's just an act of survival. To go in there and have that feeling, which is incredibly addictive and doesn't really go away. Whether it's with lyrics or whether it's with the music itself where you feel something happen, some change of body chemistry that happens when you actually make music and a few musicians actually play something together and it's like, 'Shit, that's really good' and you get lost in the moment and everything else is just unimportant. And for me that is what music is for ... Probably one of the most beautiful and succinct descriptions on the act of making music I've ever read. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Welsh Rich Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 This was a really good discussion, some interesting points were made I think... Nick Cave rules: Nick Cave: Do you think things should be connected to reality? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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