owl Posted January 16, 2007 Author Share Posted January 16, 2007 For once, I want someone who is smart back in the White House. Not me! Too bad we can't elect the Beckhams. barack hussein obama...a smoker? dude did coke, pot, etc. and we're talking about cigarettes?...wow. who cares? the dude has a gift. i hope he can back up all the "warm fuzzies" he gives everyone. because all we've got in d.c. right now is a bunch of talkers. All good points. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
embiggen Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 who cares? the dude has a gift. WORD! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uncle wilco Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 I think Obama has a magnetic personality - and of course it doesn't hurt him that he is also very handsome. well...there you go... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 As for Obama - I was carrying the Obama '08 flag in 2004. So you were carrying the flag for Obama before he was even elected as a Senator? The guy's definitely likeable, a great speaker, and all that other stuff mentioned here. But President? Hold your horses. I hope a candidate has more to offer than hope, a magnetic personality and a nice smile. Does he have enough time to show he can back it up? And as for the comparisons to Clinton, let's hood off on that for a while (I'm not a Clinton fan, either). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
anodyne Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 i like edwards better, personally. that said, i could be totally cool with president obama. before this coronation continues, remember that in 2002 everyone had picked howard dean to be the candidate for 04. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 if you want to crown him, then crown his ass! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
anodyne Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 ???????? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reni Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 So you were carrying the flag for Obama before he was even elected as a Senator? The guy's definitely likeable, a great speaker, and all that other stuff mentioned here. But President? Hold your horses. I hope a candidate has more to offer than hope, a magnetic personality and a nice smile. Does he have enough time to show he can back it up? And as for the comparisons to Clinton, let's hood off on that for a while (I'm not a Clinton fan, either). Well he was a state senator before being elected to national office - he has a stellar resume and is a very intelligent human being. I was in grad school in Southern Illinois in 2004, and he was paying visits to communities all over the place down there. People really took to him, and he is a stellar orator. I watched his run in 2004 very closely, and that address at the convention was amazing. We desperately need a leader who is capable of both abstract and concrete thought on a complex level AND one who can speak to the people in a way that touches them without using fear tactics and simplistic rhetoric and propaganda. I think he is capable of this. We also need a diplomat of the highest degree to mop up the mess that has been made over the last 2 terms.....I think he is capable of this. I only mentioned his being handsome, because in this day and age people put such an emphasis on that kind of thing. How one comes across photographically is an issue - whether or not we want it to be. I wasn't saying it made him qualified, I am just saying it gives him a boost to some degree. You're questioning Obama's qualifications for president?? I think he has a better background than Bush did - a bunch of failed business ventures (except the Texas Rangers, which was a sweetheart deal set up by his cronies that milked the local tax base), and a term as Texas governor (which is notorious for being a position with very little responsibility or power) and then, what? A good smile and a likeable guy? What the hell did he have to offer? Nothing, except the obvious political connections and a good ol boys Nixon era cabinet to do his thinking for him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 You're questioning Obama's qualifications for president?? I think he has a better background than Bush did - a bunch of failed business ventures (except the Texas Rangers, which was a sweetheart deal set up by his cronies that milked the local tax base), and a term as Texas governor (which is notorious for being a position with very little responsibility or power) and then, what? A good smile and a likeable guy? What the hell did he have to offer? Nothing, except the obvious political connections and a good ol boys Nixon era cabinet to do his thinking for him. I wasn't comparing to Bush's qualifications, and I can't disagree with you here. You make solid points all around. I'm just thinking the excitement is a little premature. There's a long way to go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Basil II Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Thank you Reni......you coalesced my thoughts exactly......... -Robert. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 I would think Barack is in line behind Hillary for the '08 nomination. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Basil II Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 If Hillary gets the Democratic nomination.......we can kiss the next four years good bye. -Robert. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OOO Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 I am a huge obama fan, and was entranced by him the one time i got to see him speak in person. I really do think its an extraordinary thing for a politician to seem trustworthy, because honestly who trusts these guys? Obviously the Republican candidate for presidency will hammer into his lack of experience, but I sort of see it as a benefit as he is not jaded yet or too entrenched in the Washington lifestyle. I think leadership is a skill one learns long before becoming a politician, and obamas got the skill. That said, I honestly have no idea how electable he is. He's extremely popular in certain segments of the population, but can he win? His election to the senate was kind of a joke, as he was literally running against no one for a portion of the race. Who knows? P.S. Maybe after "An Unreasonable Man" comes out, more people will be interested in voting for Mr. Nader? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrRain422 Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 My ideal ticket would be Clark/Obama. Obama/Clark would be fine too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 I think this will be a good foundation for an Obama run in '12 or '16, unless Hillary decides she doesn't want the nomination. (If she does, it's hers. As '04 proved, it's all about seniority and whose turn it is.) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Duck-Billed Catechist Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 How did '04 prove that? By that logic, Dick Gephardt should've taken the nomination. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
myboyblue Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 The country is not ready for a female or black president imo. I believe that Barrack would make an EXCELLENT VP candidate but the nomination for the top office should go to someone with a bit more experience/accomplishments. Otherwise, the dems are just going to throw this away again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spawn's dad Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 If Obama or Hillary gets the Democratic nomination.......we can kiss the next four years good bye. -Robert. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beltmann Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 I would be ecstatic about an Edwards/Obama ticket. To my ears, that sounds an awful lot like "16 years." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hodie Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 My mother-in-law is a heartland conservative who, like many heartland conservatives, is big time sickened by Bush and his cronies. I never would have predicted she'd support Obama -- she's not someone who likes radical change, and race-wise, she'd consider him radical change. Upon listening to him speak ONCE though, she went out immediately and bought his bio and is now a big fan of his. Charisma matters, and Obama does make people feel he's trustworthy and can lead. Add in the fact that he's smart and the fact that people are sick of morally bankrupt fools running our country into the ground, and I'm taking a second look at the whole "unelectable" thing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 I would be ecstatic about an Edwards/Obama ticket. To my ears, that sounds an awful lot like "16 years."Hell, I'd vote for that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dreamin' Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Charisma mattersObama could be to the US as Trudeau was to Canada in the late 1960s. Obamamania! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
anodyne Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 I would be ecstatic about an Edwards/Obama ticket. To my ears, that sounds an awful lot like "16 years." exactly. and i'd like to see wesley clark hold a cabinet level position other than sec of state. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tweedling Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 His name will be the reason he will not be President of the United States. Barack Hussein Obama????? I mean, come on! It is funny to see so much put into his "coming out". No Chance! And you can smoke an ounce to this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
owl Posted January 17, 2007 Author Share Posted January 17, 2007 His name will be the reason he will not be President of the United States. Barack Hussein Obama????? I mean, come on! It is funny to see so much put into his "coming out". No Chance! And you can smoke an ounce to this. I'd venture to say that my half of the voting populace isn't that shallow. Old school Republicans will find a tougher time coping. Fortunately, the Dem./Rep. split in the U.S. is 50/50, so Obama stands to gain more than he stands to lose. I don't think 2008 will be easy for any candidate- Rep. or Dem.- but the name "Hussein" makes no real difference. If you can accept "Barack" or even "Obama," you can accept "Hussein." It's not like the late Mr. Hussein posed a threat to us anyway. IF it were Barack Osama Obama, that'd be a different story. Otherwise, his loss-due-to-middle-name is no less wishful thinking on your part than winning the Presidency is for Obama's antsy speculators. The country is not ready for a female or black president imo. I believe that Barrack would make an EXCELLENT VP candidate Reminds me of Chris Rock's bit on Colin Powell being asked to run with Bob Dole: "Only in America would people ask him to run with someone he could beat-- Bob Dole." Another highlight: "Whenever Colin Powell is on the news, white people give him the same compliments: 'He speaks so well! He's so well spoken.' Like that's a compliment...'He speaks so well' is not a compliment, okay? 'He speaks so well' is some shit you say about retarded people that can talk. What do you mean he speaks so well? He's a fucking educated man! How the fuck you expect him to sound...What voice were you expecting to come out of his mouth?" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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