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So I have gotten into the addictive habit of buying vinyl. Over the past two years I picked up Being There, Yankee Hotel, A Ghost is Born and Sky Blue Sky. Just last month I bought Uncle Tupelo Anthology 89/93 and it sounds incredible.

 

Does anyone know what Uncle Tupelo albums were released on vinyl? I have seen the Still Feel Gone/ March 1992 double LP pop up on ebay. Can anyone confirm if there are any other releases (No Depression, Anodyne) on vinyl? Also, can anyone comment on the quality of the pressing for the Still Feel Gone / March 1992 double LP.

 

Finally, does anyone know if Summerteeth will ever be re-pressed on vinyl? I am sure the record label can make a lot of money by making a high quality pressing. I would love this on vinyl but I can't justify paying more than $100 on any album.

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No Depression was, indeed, released on vinyl. My copy is marbled pink - can anyone tell me if this is a repressing? I believe I recall seeing some on black, but I'm wrong a lot. As for the Still Feel Gone/March 16-20, 1992 - my copy has the former on translucent blue vinyl and the latter on translucent green. I believe there are also copies circulating with marbled vinyl. The blue/green platters sound good, though. I doubt it's super-heavy virgin vinyl, but I have no complaints.

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No Depression was, indeed, released on vinyl. My copy is marbled pink - can anyone tell me if this is a repressing? I believe I recall seeing some on black, but I'm wrong a lot. As for the Still Feel Gone/March 16-20, 1992 - my copy has the former on translucent blue vinyl and the latter on translucent green. I believe there are also copies circulating with marbled vinyl. The blue/green platters sound good, though. I doubt it's super-heavy virgin vinyl, but I have no complaints.

 

Thanks for the info BewlayBrother, do you want to trade/sell either of those? I did some googling and it sounds like there was an original pressing on Rockville and a new re-press of the album a few years ago on 180 gram vinyl.

 

http://store.acousticsounds.com/whatsnew.cfm?dir=011606

 

Does anyone have this copy?

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I'm not too hip on how the recording process translates to the release, but I seem to recall reading that summerteeth is a digital recording and a vinyl pressing isn't going to sound any better, and that for anything other than collectors value (which we all know is $$$$) doesn't do much good. Can anyone verify if this is true?

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I'm not too hip on how the recording process translates to the release, but I seem to recall reading that summerteeth is a digital recording and a vinyl pressing isn't going to sound any better, and that for anything other than collectors value (which we all know is $$$$) doesn't do much good. Can anyone verify if this is true?

 

It's not necessarily true. Even if the source is digital, it can be recorded at an higher resolution than the CD and the transfer can take advantage of it. Then, the same recording can sound bad on CD and better on vinyl, because the trend is to master CDs very loud, which adds compression and digital clicks. The vinyl is generally safe from this kind of tinkering.

 

By all accounts, however, the "Summerteeth" vinyl doesn't sound better than the CD. I was just speaking of digital recordings on vinyl in general.

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I'm not too hip on how the recording process translates to the release, but I seem to recall reading that summerteeth is a digital recording and a vinyl pressing isn't going to sound any better, and that for anything other than collectors value (which we all know is $$$$) doesn't do much good. Can anyone verify if this is true?

Well that depends...

Red Book Audio (aka all the audio CD's you've ever bought) has a sampling rate of 44.1 kHz and a bit depth of 16bits (if you don't get what that means, 44.1/16 is CD quality, anything higher is higher quality then CD). As far as I know, Summerteeth was recorded digitally (and mixed on ProTools). Now, if I was to record an album today, I would at least go 44.1/24 and then take it back to 44.1/16 before it hits audio CD, that way if there's ever a DVD or vinyl pressing, it'd be at least a bit better then CD quality. I wasn't engineering in 1999 (I was busy being a kid) and frankly, I'm not exactly sure how easy it'd be to store an entire album that was any larger then 44.1/16. So, I would say, that Summerteeth was likely recorded at CD quality. However! Jay Bennett is a pretty smart dude, it's very possible that the album was recorded at 44.1/24 or even 88.2 or 192 (did Digidesign have the 192 out yet? I've seen old 88.2s from back in the day, but no 192). In that case, Summerteeth would be great on vinyl. If that wasn't the case, you'd be getting the worst qualities of CD and the worst of vinyl.

The sad part is, just from talking to people, I don't think a lot of engineers realize that the CD is going to be out and that in a few years when terrabyte harddrives become the norm that (hopefully!!!) whatever file we're using (the equivalent of an mp3, flac, etc) will be 24 bits and probably 96 kHz or something like that (like a DVD, which, if optical media survives for music, will probably be what it'll be released on). A lot of albums recorded in the past 10 years (and still being recorded now) are probably only at "red book audio" quality, which means that in a few decades, they won't be up too snuff with pre-digital music being re-released and the music of the day. However we will get some totally awesome re-releases of albums recorded at a high quality. ....I am dreaming of the day when 192/32 will be the norm.

THAT'S MY RANT FOR TODAY, hope you enjoyed it folks.

If anyone ever meets Jay, they should ask what Summerteeth was recorded at.

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That 180 gram ND never came out.

 

Thanks samorama, I guess I can stop looking for the 180 gram re-issue of No Depression because it never happened. How does the original rockville issue of No Depression sound? Is it comparable to the anthology? I think the Anthology sounds incredible.

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I would love this on vinyl but I can't justify paying more than $500 on any album.

 

 

Fixed that for ya.... ;)

 

Seriously though, I'd be forever grateful if I was ever able to land this album, wheter it be a re-release or not. I've even tried trading some of my other rare vinyl's for it..... its just so damn tough to find even one at times...

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Somewhat related, my YHF vinyl was delivered today - laying in the snow on my driveway with tire tracks where my mailman backed over it. I guess he is getting sick of records and books needing to be dropped off in my garage almost daily. Thankfully, someone was looking out for me because other than all the set packaging, the records themselves survived.

 

And will all you damn people stop barely outbidding me on every AM vinyl and the March/Still Feel Gone vinyls that appear on ebay!?!? Let me pick up Love Is Hell as well...

 

I know there was an orange vinyl version of No Depression as well... If you really want something cool - hunt down the Brian Henneman Indianapolis single that he did w/ Jay and Jeff. Those versions of Indianapolis/Get Down River/Wave That Flag are all superior to the versions that appeared on various Bottle Rockets albums.

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Thanks for the info BewlayBrother, do you want to trade/sell either of those?

 

Thanks for the offer, but I think I'll hold onto these for now. I sold about half my vinyl when I moved last year and feel like I held onto this for a reason. For reference purposes, No Depression is catalog number ROCK 6050-1 and Still Feel Gone/March 16-20, 1992 is catalog number ROCK 6110-1. Samorama mentioned the 1998 picturedisc 45s of Gun b/w I Wanna Destroy You, I Got Drunk b/w Sin City, and Sauget Wind b/w Looking For a Way Out (acoustic) and Take My Word. I can't attest to other incarnations of these singles. Also previously mentioned are AM on red vinyl and Down With Wilco, which has an entire side of bonus tracks. There's also the 2LP of Mermaid Avenue Volume One. And don't forget the All Over the Place promo EP.

 

Whew! What did I leave out?

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Thanks, everyone for the info. I think I may have found myself a sealed copy of March 16-20 1992/Still Feel Gone from Amazon.com of all places (I am still crossing my fingers that it comes) and it sounds like I need to get my hands on the minus 5.

 

I have also have amassed a lot of info about LP releases from both UT/Wilco so I might as well share it with everyone. Feel free to correct me if I made a mistake.

 

Uncle Tupelo

No Depression - 1990- Rockville 6050 - (Released on Black and Pink Marble, Remastered 180 g Version scheduled for 2006 but Cancelled)

Still Feel Gone - 1992 - Yellow Moon Records - (UK only pressing)

March 16-20 1992/Still Feel Gone - 1995- ROCK 6110-1 - (2LP Released on Blue/Green, Marbled Grey and Black)

Anodyne - Never Released

Anthology 89/93 -2002- Sundazed LP 5153 - (2LP 180 gram, Sounds Great)

 

Wilco

AM -1995 - Sire 45857 - (Red Vinyl, Clear Cover)

Being There - 1996- Reprise 46236-1 - (2LP, US Pressing)

Being There - 1996 - Reprise ???? - (2LP, German Pressing, Re-Issue)

Mermaid Avenue Volume 1 -1998 - Elekta ???? - (2LP)

Summerteeth - 1999 - Warner 47282-1 - (2LP, very hard to find, poor sound quality for the ebay prices)

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot - 2002 - Sundazed LP 5161 - (2LP, excellent sound, limited to 5000(I think), multiple pressings???)

A Ghost Is Born -2004 - Rhino Vinyl 76492-1 - (2LP)

Sky Blue Sky -2007 - Nonesuch 13188-1 - (2LP set, sounds great)

 

Sources:

http://www.postcardfromhell.com/postcard-discog.php

http://www.popsike.com

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Since I started this post, I have been lucky enough to find two Uncle Tupelo LPs and the Billy Bragg/Wilco - Mermaid Avenue double LP. I am so happy with them I decided to share some photos of them.

 

Does anyone have a vinyl copy of No Depression to sell or know of where one might be available?

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Yankee Hotel Foxtrot - 2002 - Sundazed LP 5161 - (2LP, excellent sound, limited to 5000(I think), multiple pressings???)

 

The first pressing was 5000 and there was a 2nd pressing of 1000 or 2000. I remember this information from the Wilco store website.

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