H.Stone Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 So just for the record, the dreaded curfew cut them short. After snagging a setlist they were supposed to play Sunken Treasure, Casino Queen, and Outtasite as the "traditional" encores, but when they returned for the encore after the houselights went up, Jeff explained they only had time for one song and proceeded to play Hate it Here which was not on the list at all That happened in Madison as well. That sucks--eff curfews! I think they should play sans opening act all the time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
billydee Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 John Doe went on at 7:30. I liked what I heard, but the venue was half empty at that time. I felt bad for him. Did John play with a band or solo? And did he play any X songs?thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
renic Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 He also said that they probably end up playing Lollapalooza. i like this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mpolak21 Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 Six Summerteeth tunes in one show. I should look back and see how long it's been since that happened (minus the last week possibly). I'm going to guess 2000, I'd be stunned if they ever hit six from that one post-Bennett before the last couple of weeks, though I'm sure Jeff has hit at least six several times in his solo shows. Interesting to see I am Trying To Break Your Heart off the set list, they actually have gone four straight shows without playing, that has to be the first time that's happened since it's debut. --Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 If I am counting right, its pretty balanced -- more than the most recent previous regular sets: SBS 5MA 3YHF 5ST 6AGIB 4AM 1BT 1Looks good to me... LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
H.Stone Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 i like this. I like this like this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tugmoose Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 This was my 14th wilco show (starting 2002) and it was the first time they didn't do either Sunken Treasure or Misunderstood. Still, it was one of the longest shows I've ever seen them play. One thing that was cool was the shadows of the guys on the side walls during a few songs. Also, I get the feeling Cleveland is not Jeff's favorite town - he had some pointed comments last year in pittsburgh, and it felt like his putdown lines had kind of an edge last night. Then there was the poor guy in the front row that he singled out for sitting most of the show - hey, Jeff, the guy probably paid $150 for that seat. Standout moment was when Jeff and Nels created an almost physical space of guitar fury at the end of Handshake Drugs. Also, did it seem to anyone else that Jeff was about to go after someone in the pit during Hummingbird? He sort of leaned forward and looked about ready to lunge, Axelroselike. One last thing: where did Nels get those stripped socks? Munchkin land? Almost as distracting as Beatle Bob. Very solid show. the boys delivered the goods even if they were a little tuckered out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mpolak21 Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 I was hoping for Too Far Apart tonight, but oh well. That's an interesting order for the setlist. I wonder if they'll highlight a certain album each night the way they did Summerteeth last night. Did John Doe go on at 7:30 or 8? I'm hoping 7:30, because otherwise that doesn't give him much time to play. The setlist has Too Far Apart listed in between Via Chicago and I'm Always in Love. --Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thagle Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 I was thinking that the band would really dig deep into the catalog for the whole tour, but I guess not. yeah its kinda disappointing that they arent doing it. I was hoping htis would really shake things up for them. Not that I dont like the songs but I can do without going to a random wilco show and hearing the same setlist everytime. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foolnrain97 Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 He also said that they probably end up playing Lollapalooza.This will probably depend on when it is. Someone in the band is going to be a father this summer. Then there was the poor guy in the front row that he singled out for sitting most of the show - hey, Jeff, the guy probably paid $150 for that seat.Those seats were no more expensive than any other. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tugmoose Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 Those seats were no more expensive than any other.If you got 'em before the ticket brokers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dazzler Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 Did John play with a band or solo? And did he play any X songs?thanks Yeah, he played white girl (i think that's what it's called). DO NOT MISS John Doe. He rocked out. Definetly the best opener Wilco has had in a while. It was a strange night in a strange venue. The boys did seem a bit haggard and Jeff did apologize for his hoarse voice, but they busted out a tight 24 song set. There was tons of funny banter and everybody seemed real loose. This was the closest we have been to the stage and they could've played anything and I would've been happy. Seeing the subtle interaction between the guys and all their expressions was great. Jeff blew the little harmonica part on she's a jar and got a funny little smirk on his face. Stuff like that is priceless. My highlights: Remember The Mountain Bed - The only song I requested. Thankfully the two guys in front of me stopped talking when I politely informed them that it was one of my faves. Summerteeth - Nuff said. I gotta check my video for this. I Can't Stand It - It seems like this is making it into a semi-regular rotation and the is a GOOD thing. Great energy song and the band rocks it. Kingpin - woooooooooo. Loves me some call and response. All in all while it was a "standard" setlist the boys sounded as great as ever and we had lots of great folks around us dancing, singing, and having a blast. p.s. we only met one fan from Cleveland. Everyone we met was from somewhere else. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sky blue bats Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 set list looks great to me and a little different , cant wait for Houston!!!!!!!!!!!!! : :dancing :dancing Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tugmoose Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Review from The Plain Dealer Wilco transcends "dad rock" in sold-out show by John Soeder / Plain Dealer Pop Music Critic Saturday February 23, 2008, 8:11 AM In certain snarky corners, the music of Wilco has been knocked as "dad rock." Well, papa had a brand new bag Friday night at Lakewood Civic Auditorium. This was the first stop on a 13-date U.S. tour for singer-guitarist Jeff Tweedy and his merry band of sonic adventurers, fresh from a five-night stand in their hometown of Chicago. Or maybe not so fresh. Tweedy's voice was a bit frayed, although it only added to the charm. The sold-out show featured a generous serving of material from "Sky Blue Sky," the sextet's latest album. Opener "Impossible Germany" erected an impressive wall of sound from the spiraling guitar riffs of Tweedy and bandmates Nels Cline and Pat Sansone. A well-rounded set aimed to please with choice selections from the group's back pages, too, including "Too Far Apart" from Wilco's 1995 debut, "A.M," and the twinkling "California Stars," top vote-getter in an online request poll. The band also dug deep into its 1999 masterpiece "Summerteeth," yielding bracing renditions of two all-time great Wilco tunes, "She's a Jar" and "Shot in the Arm." The title track also made a rare live appearance. After rising from the ashes of Uncle Tupelo more than a decade ago, Wilco branched out beyond its alt-country roots to embrace a range of styles. From album to album, these restless wanderers -- America's answer to England's Radiohead, some say -- have been completely unpredictable, yet consistently rewarding. And so it was in concert. Wilco was forever switching gears, gliding with ease from the folksy Woody Guthrie-isms of "Remember the Mountain Bed" to the new-wave chug of "I'm Always in Love" to the hard-rocking hoedown of "Walken." Bass player John Stirratt added warm backing harmonies to numerous tunes, including the joyful "Airplane to Heaven." Ably rounding out the band were Mikael Jorgensen on keyboards and Glenn Kotche on drums. Between numbers, Tweedy had a fun rapport with the audience. "They don't serve alcohol here, do they?" he remarked halfway through the two-hour performance. "You guys look painfully alert." Guilty as charged. Then again, there are worse ways to spend an evening than to hang on the well-turned lyrics of a guy who casually tosses off lines like these: "You were right about the stars / Each one is a setting sun." When the band left the stage and the house lights came up around 10:30 p.m., fans refused to budge. Down again went the lights and out again came Wilco, breaking the venue's curfew with "Hate It Here," a soulful encore. Opening act John Doe, a singer-songwriter who got his start with the punk group X, was a good fit. Rootsy fare from his solo career handily won over the crowd, even if the only tune many concertgoers seemed to recognize was Doe's feisty stab at the Beatles' "Revolution." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vulture19 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Looks like this board is full of veterans. Anyone interested in hearing a newbie's take? I haven't been a fan for very long, but I have become a fan in a BIG way. Side note - my journey to Wilco came about very circuitously. I am a huge fan of the Conet Project tapes, finding them oddly hypnotic and excellent late night driving/dentist chair/programming noise, so I had to check out the band who got into trouble for an un-authorized sample. But I digress. So, new fan, though I would now be hard pressed to name another band I like more. Having become slightly agoraphobic in my advancing years, I gave up going to concerts about a decade ago, and rarely even look to see who's playing anymore. Sadly, this means I missed out on a bunch of shows I could have made in June. When I did decide I wanted to go, turns out I was in Fond du Lac WI on 9/11 for work, but couldn't get out of the evening commitment to shoot down to Madison (Where Ashes, my fave, was played). Again, I digress. Found out they were playing three shows in a 6 hour radius of Rochester, worked it out, decided to go to Cleveland. Convinced my wife to go, even though my credibility with her is non existent (20 years together) and could never even get her to listen to Wilco (all I got was good-natured crap about the VW commercials). She agreed to go. Ticket broker, all set. Going to leave on Thursday, as veteran travelers of I-90 know what can happen in the winter. Got sidetracked by work, so we wound up traveling to Pittsburgh so I could knock out a quick job in the morning. Of course this means that I-90 was clear and dry all the way to Cleveland 2/21, but the PA turnpike SUCKED. Got in after midnight, went to my customer early, finished, leave for the show. All this ties together, I promise. So, I'm trying to get my wife to listen to setlists on the way up, still not interested. I'm figuring that this is gonna be along night. We got to the Aud way too early, and she still wasn't too interested. The fact that NO ONE was coming in early didn't help. (BTW, y'all missed an excellent opening set from John Doe). So, finally, here's the point. Row G, 101 & 102 (I saw some other posters were right in front of us - Hello!). Most of what the band played was stuff I would not have put at the top of my list for favorite Wilco stuff (but it's all relative), but hearing it live gave me a new appreciation for it, and have to admit that the show easily ranks among the best I've ever seen (Elvis Costello - Rochester - 1982 and Talking Heads - Greek Theater Berkeley - 1983? top the list) , and I got the distinct impression that it was an off-night for the band. Highlights of the show for me include Handshake Drugs (a fave) and Via Chicago (now a fave). But this isn't the point, I like the band. What about the poor woman next to me who wouldn't even listen to Wilco before? Let me put it this way. As we were leaving Cleveland this morning, I jokingly suggested heading for Philly to catch tonight's show. She thought that an excellent idea. She was absolutely blown away and thought it one of the best shows she'd ever been to. She almost admitted to liking it more than her personal favorite, Van Morrison in NYC in '95. Almost. Exactly as I thought, she was a fan of the Mermaid Avenue style. I hadn't really thought about it before, but she also made a good analogy - Crazy Horse. Sorry for the long, pointless post with no real end, but I'm tired and pissed that I couldn't actually make the drive to Philly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
schneb99 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 There were more Cleveland people there than you realize...I was there with my daughter and son-in-law and a friend and I spoke with other people who were residents... The curfew thing sucked, but the auditorium had pretty good acoustics, which was a pleasant surprise. At the Pittsburgh show Jeff was pretty gracious about the city. When we saw him after the show he acted as though he wouldn't even play in Cleveland, so the fact that he did was a pleasant surprise. I thought the audience was responsive, but he definitely doesn't seem to like people not being "engaged" (he wasn't pleased with the guy in the audience being so lifeless, and he sort of berated the audience that Cleveland's favorite song was "Cleveland Rocks"--heaven forbid--amongst other subtle insults). The new set list was refreshing and I thought they had a great energy level considering their heavy schedule. It was a great concert as usual. My daughters and son in laws are in Philadelphia watching them tonight so it would be cool if they could relate the differences (Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Philadelphia). Debbie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
todd-o Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 does anyone know where i can find a recording of this show? i saw one lone taper, but was not able to talk to him.i have checked both dime and etree, and nothing yet... thanks for the help! i loved the show and want to commemorate it for my brother... it was his first wilco experience. (and of course i want to relive it for myself) todd Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dazzler Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 does anyone know where i can find a recording of this show? i saw one lone taper, but was not able to talk to him.i have checked both dime and etree, and nothing yet... thanks for the help! i loved the show and want to commemorate it for my brother... it was his first wilco experience. (and of course i want to relive it for myself) todd Give the tapers a little time (a week is standard practice). Keep an eye on the reflecting off your cd section and someone will generally post if it is up. Hey Vulture, I drug my wife to her first Wilco show and now we've seen them in London (Ontario), Lansing, Chicago, Toronto, and Cleveland as well as a hometown show. If you get copies of any of the recent Chicago stand you will understand why this was an "off" show. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Elixir Sue Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 He also said that they probably end up playing Lollapalooza. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bgalizio Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 My recording is up:http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=513404 Many thanks to Rhett for the source patch! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
todd-o Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 My recording is up:http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=513404 Many thanks to Rhett for the source patch! thanks! im downloading now. todd Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bgalizio Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 thanks! im downloading now. todd Now don't get spoiled by the quick turnaround . Sometimes it takes much longer (weeks, months, years) to torrent a source. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vulture19 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 ...Hey Vulture, I drug my wife to her first Wilco show and now we've seen them in London (Ontario), Lansing, Chicago, Toronto, and Cleveland as well as a hometown show. If you get copies of any of the recent Chicago stand you will understand why this was an "off" show. I heard the 2nd half of the 4th night on the local radio's stream - sounded good to me. You know, if I ask this question it may be taken the wrong way, but I still gotta ask. Keep in mind that I absolutely loved the show, but... Was this an really an off-night for the band? I know there are a lot of people here who have seen a lot of shows, so you have to know. Be honest, please. Here is why I ask: 1) Tweedy's voice was tired. Fortunately, for his vocal style, this didn't really hurt the sound, but I sensed that he wasn't get the performance he expected. 2) After the high of the residency shows, this may have been a let down. I remember during the stream of the fourth night he mentioned doing it backwards (home town first), "knowing" the band wasn't going to get the response on the road it was going to get at home, etc. Even the mention of the sitter in the front row indicated that maybe the band hadn't come to terms with the start of the tour yet. I don't know. 3) Everyone seemed rush. I thought the curfew references were jokes, but I guess not. Even John Doe gave the vibe when he stared at his watch and made some sort of time reference. Fortunately, he played an awesome set, else that would have been all I remembered. 4) Was Glenn struggling with his kit all night? Not his playing, but the actual kit itself..... I know it seems like all I did was take negative notes and not listen to the show - I really, really didn't. In fact, I'm hoping that people come back and say that was an off-night. If they were this good on an off-night, holy carp. As we speak I'm trying to weasel my way into getting a customer in Philadelphia to call and ask me to come in on Tuesday/Wednesday. DC is only 2 hours away, and there is NO way I would miss going down. Hell, I'm tempted to call a customer in DC itself and sell them a day or two of training. Getting paid to go to DC would be pretty cool..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhett Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Many thanks to Rhett for the source patch! My entire source is now up... http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=513411 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bourbonbreath Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 No IATTBYH? Wow... I would like to see ALTWYS make it into the set list for the Ryman... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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