glennc100 Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 I thought some of you might be able to help me. On the tune "Shake it off", Tweedy is playing rhythm guitar best heard starting at 4:13 on the studio cut. It's a swirly dirty guitar that I have trying to duplicate for over a year. I'm more interested in find out what the modulation effect is, I assume it's got overdrive with it. To me it sounds like a leslie rotary type effect, ie deja vibe, or I'm a complete jackass and it's the rhodes piano. I don't know. You can't really appreciate the sound on the live version found on youtube. I'd love to hear anyone's opinion. Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BigWheeledWagon Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 I don't have any ideas about this yet, but I'll give it a listen when I get a chance. I felt compelled to post despite not having an answer since this is your first and I hate to see it go without a reply for several days. Welcome to SST. Hopefully one of us will be able to help you out. If it were a Nels part you were investigating, this would be a little easier since a great number of threads have investigated his various pedals. Still, I think there may be a thread or two dedicated to Jeff's gear -- you may want to do a search. Looking over his pedals may give you a clue to what he's using. In my experience, when most folks have trouble figuring out what effect Jeff's using, he's using his Crowther Prunes n' Custard -- it's a pretty unique pedal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
glennc100 Posted January 31, 2009 Author Share Posted January 31, 2009 I don't have any ideas about this yet, but I'll give it a listen when I get a chance. I felt compelled to post despite not having an answer since this is your first and I hate to see it go without a reply for several days. Welcome to SST. Hopefully one of us will be able to help you out. If it were a Nels part you were investigating, this would be a little easier since a great number of threads have investigated his various pedals. Still, I think there may be a thread or two dedicated to Jeff's gear -- you may want to do a search. Looking over his pedals may give you a clue to what he's using. In my experience, when most folks have trouble figuring out what effect Jeff's using, he's using his Crowther Prunes n' Custard -- it's a pretty unique pedal. Hey! Thanks for your input, I was beginning to feel lonely over here! I think the part is played by Tweedy because on the live youtube version, Nels is clealy playing lead, while Jeff is seen strumming. It really sounds like a leslie speaker, but then again it could be their piano (rhodes or wultizer?) through a leslie or vibratone amp. I think that Nels has a fulltone deja vibe and Jeff has a boutique pedal called the Mofaux vibe. But I don't think these pedals combined with overdrive could achieve the slow growl sound I'm looking for. Plus, I was on some other forums who have agreed with statement. I have looked into the crowther pedal, but I dont know all it can do. I will look more into it. Thanks for trying to help! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
In a little rowboat Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 Not a prunes and custard...not for that sound...mine has turned into a bit of a one trick pony Could be a deja vibe, but i think the sound really does sounds more like a real leslie (ala george harrison)...as a matter of fact, i think i remember reading an article which suggested that very thing (time for google i guess)...theres no telling how much gear theyve collected in the loft j Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ghost of Electricity Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 did a bit of listening and looking for this and would only go so far as to say it may indeed be the prunes and custard- but it's hard to tell as there does seem to be a rhodes or some other keys doubling the part. I do think i hear some ring-modulationy thing going on in there though, in the same way that the p& c has some ring-modulatory thing to go with the overdrive. Am I making any sense at all? Anyway, i haven't seen a new pic of Jeff's board in a while. Anyone have one? And finally, welcome to VC (from a fellow newbie) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
glennc100 Posted January 31, 2009 Author Share Posted January 31, 2009 did a bit of listening and looking for this and would only go so far as to say it may indeed be the prunes and custard- but it's hard to tell as there does seem to be a rhodes or some other keys doubling the part. I do think i hear some ring-modulationy thing going on in there though, in the same way that the p& c has some ring-modulatory thing to go with the overdrive. Am I making any sense at all? Anyway, i haven't seen a new pic of Jeff's board in a while. Anyone have one? And finally, welcome to VC (from a fellow newbie) I get confused listening to it myself because of the rhodes in there. There's a couple things going on at once, but there's defintely something growling there that I need to reproduce! Can anyone confirm that they use a leslie, vibratone, or some kid of rotating speaker on Sky Blue Sky? I can't find anything off google. As for the P and C, I was on youtube listening to the demo and I just don't hear anything close to what I want to achieve. Not that Tweedy or Nels could have combined it with other effects to get what I'm looking for. Anyway, thank you for your input. I'm very thankful! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BigWheeledWagon Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I finally gave it a listen, and I don't think that Prunes n' Custard is the effect used. It does indeed sound like some sort of rotary or vibrato-type effect, unless, as has been suggested, that's bleed over from the keyboard part. Univibe or similar pedal (rotovibe, micro vibe, others already mentioned here, etc.) maybe? Perhaps a (very) little chorus mixed in? Sorry I don't have much new to offer -- my ears have a trouble separating the part out from the other tracks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
glennc100 Posted February 2, 2009 Author Share Posted February 2, 2009 I finally gave it a listen, and I don't think that Prunes n' Custard is the effect used. It does indeed sound like some sort of rotary or vibrato-type effect, unless, as has been suggested, that's bleed over from the keyboard part. Univibe or similar pedal (rotovibe, micro vibe, others already mentioned here, etc.) maybe? Perhaps a (very) little chorus mixed in? Sorry I don't have much new to offer -- my ears have a trouble separating the part out from the other tracks. Thanks for listening. It's hard to separate the keys from guitar, I hear you there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine bends Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 I've seen a electro harmonix electric mistress.. I could be wrong though I think Jeff may barrow stuff from Nelseffect ensemble .. but that sound described sounds like that a bit .. i dont know just 2 cents .. good luck Quote Link to post Share on other sites
I'm Incinerator Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 I would second the use of an organ/keys through a leslie, or a vibrato pedal with some OD. I've also seen pics of an old magnatone amp being used in the loft. It could have been that if it is one with pitch-shifting vibrato on there Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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