bobbob1313 Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Yeah, it looks like it gets a little jump midway to the plate. Looking at his numbers, he's got fantastic control as well. I'm not an expert on pitching mechanics but I think I know good from bad, and he doesn't look like he's got any red flags. And the Marlins stadium has been approved by everyone it needs to be approved by. As far as I know, this is it. It's happening. Yay. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Hollinger. Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Oh no, he mechanics LOOK sound, but I have a hard time trusting that kind of movement on a pitch. Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 http://www.chrisoleary.com/projects/Baseba...nStrasburg.html This guy doesn't like his mechanics. Link to post Share on other sites
dondoboy Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 FORT MYERS, Fla. -- Monday was a rough day for the back end of the Detroit Tigers' bullpen. Brandon Lyon and Fernando Rodney, the closer candidates, gave up seven runs in two innings. Whose leg you gotta hump around here to get a closer? Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 I'm not an expert on pitching mechanics but I think I know good from bad, and he doesn't look like he's got any red flags.Remember when Mark Prior was lauded for his sound mechanics, proper use of his legs, etc. Look at him now. Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Remember when Mark Prior was lauded for his sound mechanics, proper use of his legs, etc. Look at him now. The person who popularized the notion that Prior had "perfect" mechanics was in fact his own personal pitching coach. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 The person who popularized the notion that Prior had "perfect" mechanics was in fact his own personal pitching coach.Maybe so, but everyone talked about his seemingly "effortless" delivery and strong use of his lower body. I'm just saying this kid has just as good a chance of blowing out his arm than anyone else. Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Prior used his lower body, sure, and he was so big that of course it looked effortless, but there were some pretty serious hitches in the rotation of his shoulder relative to his hips. But more important than anything will be to get him to a team that understands how to develop young pitchers. Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 RIP George Kell Though not a Tigers fan, growing up in Michigan meant that Kell's voice was part of the soundtrack of my adolescence. He and Al Kaline made for a great broadcast team. Link to post Share on other sites
dondoboy Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 RIP George Kell Though not a Tigers fan, growing up in Michigan meant that Kell's voice was part of the soundtrack of my adolescence. He and Al Kaline made for a great broadcast team.An amazing voice. They were Tigers baseball. Too bad. Link to post Share on other sites
PigSooie Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 A NE Arkansas legend. RIP Mr. Kell. Link to post Share on other sites
MattZ Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 I run into the same problem every year preparing for my rotisserie baseball auction. The preview magazines are woefully outdated, the free internet websites are decent, but not great, and the pay websites are pay so i dont want to waste money to find out I got ripped off. What resources do folks here use? Link to post Share on other sites
PigSooie Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 I run into the same problem every year preparing for my rotisserie baseball auction. The preview magazines are woefully outdated, the free internet websites are decent, but not great, and the pay websites are pay so i dont want to waste money to find out I got ripped off. What resources do folks here use? bobbob1313 Link to post Share on other sites
MattZ Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 bobbob1313 My league is AL only. Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted March 24, 2009 Author Share Posted March 24, 2009 Baseball Prospectus is almost always a good read. Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 My league is AL only. MATT WIETTERS Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 My league is NL only. Link to post Share on other sites
MattZ Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 I know who Matt Wieters is. I have a feeling everyone else in my (keeper) league does too. Anyone else have thoughts on resources for an auction day crash course? Up to the minute depth charts, etc.? Is the closer in Texas CJ Wilson or Frank Francisco? Also, I am going to go ahead and slap the keeper tag on Alexei Ramirez with his $1 salary (pats self on back). Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 I really feel like Joe Sheehan gets it when it comes to steroids: Schilling is also one of the approved "clean" players of his era. The process for gaining this label is largely inscrutable, but factors include quotability, skin tone, and affability. I'm going to be indelicate here and point out that Schilling is a pitcher who struggled to stay healthy for much of his career, and had his greatest effectiveness and durability late in that career. Through his age-29 season, Schilling had thrown 988 1/3 innings, had two 200-inning seasons (and didn't lose one to either strike-shortened campaign), and never received a Cy Young vote. From the ages of 30-33, he threw 200 innings three times, made three All-Star teams, and got Cy votes in one season. From 34-37, he was one of the best pitchers in baseball. Maybe this doesn't mean anything, and frankly, I don't know or care what the reasons are for that career shape. What I do know is that "an oddly late peak" has been used as evidence against many players, and if the standards, such as they are, were applied to Schilling's stat lines, name removed, heads would be scratched. Schilling gets a pass because he's Curt Schilling, and not because any rigor has actually been applied to the issue. As I say, it's not my fight, but I find it curious why career shape matters for some people and not for others. That being said, he thinks he's a hall of famer, but as usual he does a great job of pinpointing some of the inherent hypocrisy in the steroid era. Note, he's not accusing Schilling of using. Link to post Share on other sites
Duck-Billed Catechist Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 I thought the story was that Schilling quit his heavy boozing mid-career. Of course he could have used, though. I could also be confusing him with someone else. Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 I'm down with what that dude said. Link to post Share on other sites
MrRain422 Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Lots of Piazza 'roid buzz lately. Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 I thought the story was that Schilling quit his heavy boozing mid-career. Of course he could have used, though. I could also be confusing him with someone else. His point is that there are certain players and certain types of players who will never have the suspicion put on them. I personally think race has a lot to do with it, but I've always been pretty sensitive to the role race plays in the media's portrayal of athletes, but I think he brings up interesting points about quotability and affability in the discussion as well. If anything Schilling's career followed an even less predictable path than Bonds', as Bonds was great (all time type of great) before he was older whereas Schilling never really put it together until he was older. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Hollinger. Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 LOL, my Zambrano photoshop made it to the front page of The Cub Reporter Link to post Share on other sites
Duck-Billed Catechist Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 His point is that there are certain players and certain types of players who will never have the suspicion put on them. I personally think race has a lot to do with it, but I've always been pretty sensitive to the role race plays in the media's portrayal of athletes, but I think he brings up interesting points about quotability and affability in the discussion as well. If anything Schilling's career followed an even less predictable path than Bonds', as Bonds was great (all time type of great) before he was older whereas Schilling never really put it together until he was older.I understood what he meant, bobs! I don't disagree. I was just providing a possible explanation. Link to post Share on other sites
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