adl6690 Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 Is anyone else getting some of this with like a minute left, then at the very end? I'm not complaining but I was just wondering what might have caused this.. was it the rar extractor I used, or something doing with the files themselves? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 The thing with a minute left is Glenn messing with a cymbal. The stuff at the end is intentional, to make it sound like you're listening to vinyl. Wilco are far from the first band to do this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
adl6690 Posted May 15, 2009 Author Share Posted May 15, 2009 The thing with a minute left is Glenn messing with a cymbal. The stuff at the end is intentional, to make it sound like you're listening to vinyl. Wilco are far from the first band to do this. That's what I figured at first, but the stream didn't have that.. so I wasn't sure. O yeah, and I think the thing I'm noticing with a minute or so left isn't the cymbal.. I'm noticing crackling just like the end Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 The stuff at the end is intentional, to make it sound like you're listening to vinyl. Wilco are far from the first band to do this.I'm still holding out hope that this isn't the case, as the vinyl effect was played out by the end of the 90s. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 That's what I figured at first, but the stream didn't have that.. so I wasn't sure. O yeah, and I think the thing I'm noticing with a minute or so left isn't the cymbal.. I'm noticing crackling just like the endThe stream didn't have it? Hmmm. I double-checked it on the leaked MP3s I have and it all sounds quite deliberate. I suppose we could be talking about different sounds. At almost exactly one minute left, there's a pause/fade in the music and the only sound is Glenn rapidly and quietly tapping a cymbal. Then, starting with about 15 seconds left, there's the sound of scratchy vinyl, which seems to fade with the last note of the song. I'm still holding out hope that this isn't the case, as the vinyl effect was played out by the end of the 90s.QFT. I think it was Ryan Adams who put the final nail in its coffin, for me at least, on Whiskeytown's Pneumonia. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
adl6690 Posted May 15, 2009 Author Share Posted May 15, 2009 The stream didn't have it? Hmmm. I double-checked it on the leaked MP3s I have and it all sounds quite deliberate. I suppose we could be talking about different sounds. At almost exactly one minute left, there's a pause/fade in the music and the only sound is Glenn rapidly and quietly tapping a cymbal. Then, starting with about 15 seconds left, there's the sound of scratchy vinyl, which seems to fade with the last note of the song. QFT. I think it was Ryan Adams who put the final nail in its coffin, for me at least, on Whiskeytown's Pneumonia. Is it possible that It was something that happened with the leaked files that I have? Or maybe the extractor I used? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rhino4evr Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 are you sure it's not in the stream? i thought I had read that it was. I can't check now, but can someone confirm? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
adl6690 Posted May 15, 2009 Author Share Posted May 15, 2009 are you sure it's not in the stream? i thought I had read that it was. I can't check now, but can someone confirm? Def. not the stuff at the end.. I think I'm hearing different things too with one minute or so left, bc I hear the same crackling there Quote Link to post Share on other sites
adl6690 Posted May 15, 2009 Author Share Posted May 15, 2009 Def. not the stuff at the end.. I think I'm hearing different things too with one minute or so left, bc I hear the same crackling there I'm going to listen to it again and find the exact moment around the one minute mark Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mastershake Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 I'm still holding out hope that this isn't the case, as the vinyl effect was played out by the end of the 90s.lol what? jesus i sorta feel sorry for wilco - it's impossible to please fans when they nitpick about stupid crap like this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
adl6690 Posted May 15, 2009 Author Share Posted May 15, 2009 lol what? jesus i sorta feel sorry for wilco - it's impossible to please fans when they nitpick about stupid crap like this. I don't mind either way.. I personally like that vinyl effect.. however, I'm just trying to figure out if my mp3 files have faulty sounds that others don't, and I f the rar extractor I used may have been a factor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DocShock Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 lol what? jesus i sorta feel sorry for wilco - it's impossible to please fans when they nitpick about stupid crap like this. Amen Quote Link to post Share on other sites
explodo Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 I don't mind either way.. I personally like that vinyl effect.. however, I'm just trying to figure out if my mp3 files have faulty sounds that others don't, and I f the rar extractor I used may have been a factorI'm not a technical wizard, but I don't think the extractor/unzipper is going to add static to your files. We all have it - those of us that have mp3s - so it's either an error from when the source ripped it or it's intentional. Edited for clarity. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
adl6690 Posted May 15, 2009 Author Share Posted May 15, 2009 I'm not a technical wizard, but I don't think the extractor is going to add static to your files. We all have it - those of us that have mp3s - so it's either an error from when the source ripped it or it's intentional. Cool, well I have no complaints, bc even if it is intentional... I love these songs! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 I'm not a technical wizard, but I don't think the extractor is going to add static to your files. We all have it - those of us that have mp3s - so it's either an error from when the source ripped it or it's intentional. actually it's quite common with certain CD extracting tools and/or poor CD rom drives to introduce digital chatter (which often sounds like static or skipping). in this case it sounds like it's on the original source to me, so we'll see Quote Link to post Share on other sites
explodo Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 actually it's quite common with certain CD extracting tools and/or poor CD rom drives to introduce digital chatter (which often sounds like static or skipping). in this case it sounds like it's on the original source to me, so we'll seeHe is talking about when he unzips the file. Extracting from rar. It can't happen then, can it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 lol what? jesus i sorta feel sorry for wilco - it's impossible to please fans when they nitpick about stupid crap like this.I can understand what you mean about nitpicking - but this isn't that. The scratchy vinyl sound added as an effect really was a popular practice in the late nineties, particularly in hip-hip but also used in rock records such as the aforementioned Whiskytown release, and Matthew Sweet's Girlfriend album. It's old and tired and I'd be surprised if Wilco incorporated it into their latest release, especially since these days, many of their fans will be purchasing this on record anyway. It's an anachronistic effect, because the reason for it in the nineties was to bring to the listener a touch of the "old days"; it was a throwback reference, a quaint and warm audio reminder of a bypassed era. Now there's no need for it, since vinyl itself is no longer an anachronism. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MattZ Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 lol what? jesus i sorta feel sorry for wilco - it's impossible to please fans when they nitpick about stupid crap like this. I think it honors wilco. Ignoring for a moment whether this is a glitch with the source, nothing on the album is there because wilco was lazy or missed something. If Jeff intended for it to be there, and it's there, it's not "stupid crap" it's part of the art. Which means it's not nitpicking, it's offering an opinion about the art. what's in the water these days? edit: SirS, I think we need some time apart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mastershake Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 say i wanted to do a search to find this .rar link to do some research myself on this "static" catastrophe, where or what should i search? i've tried google blogs, hypem, twitter, none of them returned a link besides the stream. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 He is talking about when he unzips the file. Extracting from rar. It can't happen then, can it? oh, no in that case no. i read your reply as the digital audio extractor tool used, would help if i read his reply all the way through Quote Link to post Share on other sites
adl6690 Posted May 15, 2009 Author Share Posted May 15, 2009 actually it's quite common with certain CD extracting tools and/or poor CD rom drives to introduce digital chatter (which often sounds like static or skipping). in this case it sounds like it's on the original source to me, so we'll see Yeah, I am not talking about CD extracting.. im talking about what I used to unzip the rar file.. that kind of extraction tool..I was wondering if this could have caused anything Quote Link to post Share on other sites
adl6690 Posted May 15, 2009 Author Share Posted May 15, 2009 oh, no in that case no. i read your reply as the digital audio extractor tool used, would help if i read his reply all the way through Ok just read your response.. so its on yours too at the end? Ill listen again for what I thought was static at about a minute left...but is it on the original source? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 it is on everyone who d/l the mp3s prior to the stream's end. i haven't listened to the stream to compare myself. should be getting a promo copy next week, if/when i do i'll compare Quote Link to post Share on other sites
adl6690 Posted May 15, 2009 Author Share Posted May 15, 2009 say i wanted to do a search to find this .rar link to do some research myself on this "static" catastrophe, where or what should i search? i've tried google blogs, hypem, twitter, none of them returned a link besides the stream. What's your email.. i will send it to you Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mastershake Posted May 15, 2009 Share Posted May 15, 2009 What's your email.. i will send it to youzepoopy at yahoo.com Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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