Jeff In Rolling Stone

[IRememberDBoon]

you dorks are making my head hurt. STFU!

[euthe]

This is easily one of the dumbest statements I've ever read on post-Jay Wilco.

 

 

Here are the dumbest statements ever posted post-Jay:

 

http://forums.viachicago.org/topic/39882-wilco-the-lawsuit-complete-lyrics/

[Guest Speed Racer]

I have HUGE respect for Jeff....one of the best songwriter's ever. And he's deserving of being the head of Wilco.

 

But it's interesting how Jay Farrar, Jay Bennett and Billy Bragg all seemingly had or have odds with Tweedy, yet Jeff seems to be the only one who comes out smelling like a rose. Most....on this board especially...always talk more like Farrar and Bennett were the bad guys, not Tweedy. I think they're all the same....not good OR bad...just strong-willed people with their own unique creative vision.

 

Uh...wow. Smelling like a rose? Ever been to the Jay F boards? Read his Relix interview from a few years back? Read any interview, ever, with Billy Bragg or post-Wilco Jay B? Jeff comes off well in interviews and articles about him, as do all his former partners in their own press. And, oddly enough, Jeff has a few supporters at VC. Jeff has said some wonderful, direct statements about Jay since his death, and I think you are doing Jeff (and Jay, honestly) a huge disservice by literally putting words in Jeff's mouth.

[Moss]

For some reason I can listen to endless talk and read articles about the Beatles break up but the Jeff/Jay thing is not that exciting to me. To be honest, I just don't put Jay at Jeff's level as a songwriter. He was a key member of the band but has proven quite replaceable. I like AGIB better than anything pre-YHF, I know I'm in the minority.

 

I think Paul gets a bad rap in the Beatles break up sometimes. Certainly you can't fault him for not wanting to have Klein representing him, the guy was a scumbag (with all due respect). That seemed to be one of the main things that angered the other Beatles but it turned out to be a very wise decision. I certainly don't blame the others for not going with Eastman either. A bit too biased towards Paul.

 

It just seemed to me that they needed someone pushing on them to get anything done, Paul had to take on that role, and the other Beatles resented it. Maybe if they had replaced Epstein right away things would not have devolved as quickly but it would have ended. I still never tire of reading about it though.

 

The Ginger Baker article could have been a thread in itself. That guy is a nutcase.

[Shakespeare In The Alley]

Here are the dumbest statements ever posted post-Jay:

 

http://forums.viachicago.org/topic/39882-wilco-the-lawsuit-complete-lyrics/

That thread was hilarious. I realize you're putting the post-death spin on it, but at the time it was created, that thread was brilliant. Especially every post by Speed Racer.

 

And none of it was meant to offend.

[Sir Stewart]

The Ginger Baker article could have been a thread in itself. That guy is a nutcase.

"No talking during football, Yankee!"

[euthe]

That thread was hilarious. I realize you're putting the post-death spin on it, but at the time it was created, that thread was brilliant. Especially every post by Speed Racer.

 

And none of it was meant to offend.

 

 

I'm not putting post death spin on it. That thread was retarded while he was still alive.

[Guest Jules]

I'm not putting post death spin on it. That thread was retarded while he was still alive.

Get a sense of humor. And using "retarded" the way you did is, well, retarded.

[Guest Speed Racer]

Get a sense of humor. And using "retarded" the way you did is, well, retarded.

 

I think he was implying that the thread was a grower. And hell, I'm okay with that.

[Shakespeare In The Alley]

I'm not putting post death spin on it. That thread was retarded while he was still alive.

If you're that sensitive about anything against Jay, you might want to leave the board. There's no one here who will deny Jay's great contributions to Wilco's evolution, but there's a lot of negative posts regarding the guy. It doesn't at all mean the board has any less respect for his talents.