howdjadoo Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Unbelievable quality 24/96 forget the off."The River" this is it http://jungleland.dnsalias.com/torrents-details.php?id=34441&dllist=1#seeders Audio type: 24 bit/96 kHzTrack listing:1. The Ties That Bind2. Cindy3. Hungry Heart4. Stolen Car5. To Be True6. The River7. You Can Look (But You Better Not Touch)8. The Price You Pay9. I Wanna Marry You10. Loose Ends Notes:Unlike most upgrades, this 2011 edition of The Ties That Bind utilizes the same source tapes: a pair of 15 IPS, half-track reels that turned up at a Pasadena swap meet in the early '90s. The initial transfer of those reels--from which, to be clear, ALL known copies and releases emanate--was done on a rented open-reel tape deck to DAT at 16 bit/48 kHz. There was no playback azimuth correction. No demagnetization of the heads (at least they were cleaned between tape sides). No correcting for balanced/unbalanced connections. In short, it was the best transfer that could be made given the time and circumstances (c'mon, we were kids then) and it sounded damn good, all things considered, because they were, after all, master tapes.However, we always knew it could sound even better. And given historic nature of the material and the source, The Ties That Bind deserved an upgraded transfer. In late 2010, that finally happened. There was baking involved, as the tapes had degraded in the two decades since the initial transfer was made. This time, the reel-to-reel tape deck was best of breed, what the pros use, in a proper studio, calibrated and adjusted in every way for optimal playback and capture at 24/96 using the best possible sound card, cabling, etc. The nature of how this transfer was made compels me to be silent on the equipment details, but suffice it to say that no one among us to could make a transfer this good.But The Ties That Bind already sounded great, so how much better could an upgrade be? Well, we think it is materially upgraded, everything you ever loved about the original TTTB only better. The stereo separation is improved, the highs higher and the lows lower. Quoting my own original notes, "the only sonic flaw is on the introduction to Stolen Car. Because of the extremely quiet nature of the piano passage that begins the song, some hiss is evident on the CD that would have been masked on an LP…so the hiss has been left intact."For all intents and purposes that hiss is now gone/dramatically reduced, not through computer noise reduction but proper playback. The 24/96 capture and superior playback deck simply extracted more out of the tape than the DAT and rental unit did the first time around. And, we're making both the CD-quality and 24/96 high resolution files available to you. Consider this the audiophile edition of The Ties That Bind.For mastering, we enlisted Erno, the man behind the EV2 releases and collaborator on prior JEMS upgrades, to apply a very light touch in the spirit of the original EQ notes on the tape boxes. We stayed away from heavy compression and anything that would modernize the sound. Our goal was to make it sound as good as it could and should have in 1980. And it still sounds better than the official CD of The River.What's remarkable in 2011 is that most tracks on this "temporary assembly" of the album remain unreleased. "Cindy" is the one major River outtake that Bruce is still sitting on. The alternate verse in "The Price You Pay" remains lost. The rockabilly "You Better Not Touch" has never seen the light of day, nor the double-tracked vocal take of "To Be True." "Stolen Car" is a different take to the one on Tracks and even "The Ties That Bind," "The River" and "I Wanna Marry You" are each alternate takes or mixes from the released versions. "Hungry Heart" and now "Loose Ends" are the most like their official selves, but still distinct.With this release, one of the most important unreleased recordings in the Springsteen bootleg canon finally gets remastered. Shame that we are getting to it before he gets to The River, isn't it?Thanks to Erno, Flynn and our mystery transfer angel for their help with this release.Wayne Darlington Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Papa Crimbo Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Flynn and Wayne are legends in the Brucetramp world. I am sure the remaster is something to look forward to. There is als a version of "This Hard Land" (a purported early version of Born in the USA) which is floating around. Bruce has made several decisions concerning the release of his material which, in retrospect, may not have been the best choice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Papa Crimbo Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 Even though I've had a copy of THE TIES THAT BIND (aka THE POWER STATION), I downloaded the remastered version tonight. IT SOUNDS SPECTACULAR. Sounds like it is ready for commercial release. Spectacular. Well worth the effort if you are a Bruce fan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vacant Horizon Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 is this what the river was gonna be? is it anywhere besides torrents? seems interesting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Papa Crimbo Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 is this what the river was gonna be? is it anywhere besides torrents? seems interesting. If memory serves me, this came from a proposed November 1979 release. I'm not remembering the expressed whys and wherefores as to why this wasn't released.It certainly has a different feel to it and doesn't have the chaotic, rambling mixtures of songs that make THE RIVER so charming.The rockabilly version of "You can look" was rolled on the Tunnel of Love Express tour.There is a lot of lore about this material...but it is best experienced by listening to it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
I Might Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 I've read that The Ties That Bind was all finished, ready to be released, then at the abslute last minute Springsteen changed his mind and recorded more songs. I believe I read once that he wanted The River to have the feel of their live shows, so he added a few more rockers, stuff that would be fun to play live. His career up until the last decade is full of stories like this, where he would scrap an album and go record more, almost obsessively. Steve Van Zandt once said that for every track that made it on Born In The USA they cut about 10-15. So he recorded about 100 tracks for one album. Its insane. Most of the material circulates on bootlegs, but some may never see the light of day. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Papa Crimbo Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 That's pretty much the story I heard. THE RIVER is Bruce's WHITE AtLBUM. Except the gloriously conflicting emotions and styles are all his. That and the fact that there's nothing on the River as annoying, challenging, maddening and polarizing as Revolution 9. I haven't heard this, but I wouldn't be surprised if his obsessive recording on THE RIVER and two years later on BORN IN THE USA didn't chase Steve off. The serach for perfection can be hard on a collaborator. I found the purported first version of BORN IN THE USA (you know how those things go) that has the original 10 minute version of Born in the USA on a torrent site. There are different and better versions of songs from BITUSA that didn't make the cut for tracks. I am holding out hope that some of these will see the light of day with a 30th anniversary version of BITUSA. However, it's not a slam dunk we'll get a remastering of BITUSA. THE RIVER, which definitely could use a remastering and remix is apparently not on tap and and we're at 31 years and counting for that one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TLF18 Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Happy Birthday Bruce Springsteen: http://bumslogic.wordpress.com/2011/09/23/happy-birthday-uncle-bruce-2/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Van Zandt: E-Street Band To Decide Future Soon NEW YORK — Steve Van Zandt says Bruce Springsteen and the E-Street Band will get together over the next couple of weeks to discuss how the band will proceed without Clarence Clemons. The saxophonist died in June following complications from a stroke.Van Zandt said the band, which has periodically toured and recorded with Springsteen since 1972, will never be the same without Clemons. But then he added it wasn't the same after keyboard player Danny Federici died in 2008. Clemons provided the band with its trademark horn sound apparent on such hits as "Blinded By the Light," ''Tenth Avenue Freeze-Out," and "Jungleland." "That's a void we will never replace," Van Zandt said. But the E-Street band guitarist feels they will still play music until the end because he says: "That's what we do."Van Zandt made the comments while attending "Ocean's Kingdom," in New York, a new ballet with music by Paul McCartney. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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