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    Two Questions

    in Just A Fan

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    WXPN in philly would often play 'can't stand it' the song didn't click (yet) they also played 'california stars' and i loved it. they played son volt too and i loved jays voice but had no idea there was a connection till some time later. soon after an online friend from a dylan chat room sent me a cassette tape of one of jeffs solo shows, i can't remember which show. i still have it in my box full of cassettes and cds from my trading days (lots of dylan shows too). i instantly fell in love with jeffs singing, banter, etc.

     

    my first show was Cooper River Park, Collingswood, NJ 9/17/2000

     

    16 shows so far 2 of them solo jeff

    Goodbye Wilco

    in Just A Fan

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    Gimme a chair please as one of the oldest VC's

     

     

    i saw the geogia satellites play on the beach in atlantic city sometime in the early 80's in front of trump plaza. they rocked!

    Wilco mention on American Idol

    in Just A Fan

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    Geez guys - someone finally breaks the mold on AI and he gets all this harsh criticism. He's a Ryan Adams fan and chose his song because Ryan is his 'idol'. Props to him, way to go. I'd rather hear him sing Ryan Adams, Tweedy, Rod Stewart - whoever, as opposed to the majority of the crap people sing on that show.

     

    Yea, the show is ridiculous but it has America as its audience.

     

    And he wore a Nudie suit.

     

    i agree, i like his voice...

    Arizona mass shooting

    in Tongue-Tied Lightning

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    The only person at fault for this murderous act is Loughner. He did it. That said, it is still irresponsible for Palin to do the 'crosshairs' thing, for Giffords opponent to have the M16 'help take Giffords out of office' rally, Helms (I think) saying some nonsense about Clinton being shot if he went to North Carolina, and radio and tv pundits with their bombastic violent imagery, etc.

     

    The only reason that they do these kinds of things is to get 'ratings', if you will. They are all intelligent enough to know that that type of imagery and rhetoric ratchets everything up several notches. Are they responsible for how their words and images may be interpreted by an unbalanced person? No but that doesn't absolve them from being disingenuous sacks of shit when they say, "That isn't what I meant" and "I condemn this person", etc., etc. Who will be the first among them to say, "I will no longer make these kinds of hyperbolic statements. I am not responsible for these violent actions but I also want no connection to them in any way. I urge all of my fellow politicians, commentators, etc. to join me in a pledge of responsibility".

     

    Would acts like these happen even if the political landscape were devoid of that type of nonsense?, of course. But influential people should use their influence responsibly.

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    Arizona mass shooting

    in Tongue-Tied Lightning

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    In a word, no.

     

    Though, I find it interesting that Palin acted awfully quickly to pull down from her websites any reference to the now infamous crosshairs map. I guess she and her camp feel that in light of the shootings, maybe it’s a little inappropriate. Though, that she now all of a sudden finds her own rhetoric insensitive and inappropriate strikes me as funny, as if it wasn’t before, the shit that comes out of her mouth on a pretty much daily basis.

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    Arizona mass shooting

    in Tongue-Tied Lightning

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    I deleted an earlier post just now that some may have seen, because I'm still very angry about this incident and I went off half-cocked about something.

     

    I mention this because, regardless of what the shooter's motivations turn out to be in this case, my point in that now-deleted post, and the point the Keith Olbermann makes, is no less true whether the shooter was motivated by Sarah Palin or Glenn Beck or anyone else, or whether he was simply a lunatic who decided entirely on his own to attack a congresswoman. That point is this:

     

    The incendiary rhetoric surrounding politics has gotten WAY out of hand, and that unless something is done to bring hostilities back to a mild simmer instead of the current rolling boil, there WILL be violent incidents inspired by that rhetoric. Let's face it, there already have been.

     

    This incident may not be among them -- that remains to be seen. But even if it's proven to be completely unrelated, it's still a fact that both sides need to cool it and we need to return to respectful disagreement instead of hatred and violent rhetoric. This is a democracy, and we are bound to disagree on things, but that does not give anyone the right to advocate violence, explicitly or implicitly, nor to actually commit violence.

     

    Olbermann named names on the right because those are the people who most prominently spread such vitriol. If there were a liberal counterpart to Glenn Beck or Sarah Palin -- someone who has the platform of a national media program watched or listened to by millions who makes winking references to violence when speaking of political opponents -- then it would be important to call out that person too. I can't think of any such person on the left -- not Olbermann, not anyone. And so it may seem to some that Olbermann was trying to turn this back on his political opponents, but look at the facts: right-wingers dominate such programs, and liberals are virtually unseen/unheard. It's pretty clear where the most violent rhetoric is coming from, and it's not from the gun-control crowd.

     

    agree

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