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am i the only one excited about this? and its only vol 1!
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I think it looks sort of neat, but it does not fit in with its surroundings even a little bit.
the sears and hancock sure as hell didnt fit in with their surroundings when they were built either
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hmmm . . . I'm not a particular fan of this
What is up with the Chicago building boom anyway? Most cities are building nothing right now.
Chicago is having one of its biggest skyscraper booms in its history, def biggest since the 60's/70's. its absolutely incredible. in fact pretty unprecendented. some of the others going up right now:
trump international hotel and tower
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Does he realize all his buildings are twisty? Maybe he should go buy a new ruler or something.
I wouldnt say all, but he does like "organic" design, which seeks to use nature as an inspiration. There arent too many straight edges in nature. This was proposed for New York, although it was never built:
and of course, hes famous for the Milwaukee art museum
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The Sun Times Architecture Review
http://www.suntimes.com/entertainmen...pire27.articleSkyline could have a brave new look
Latest design of Spire similar to birthday candle
March 27, 2007
BY KEVIN NANCE Architecture Critic
Forget the drill bit. Forget the dancing lady and the twisting tree trunk and the curl of smoke. The new visual metaphor for Santiago Calatrava's Chicago Spire -- the latest and "final" design of which the Spanish architect presented at two public meetings on Monday -- ought to be that of a birthday candle. The twisting, 2,000-foot tower on the lakefront near the base of Navy Pier is once again as skinny as a birthday taper, topped off after dark with a shaft of light.
But the candle metaphor isn't appropriate just because that's what the tower design looks like. If built as currently envisioned -- and that remains a big if, with everything depending on developer Garrett Kelleher's ability to pull off this gargantuan project -- the Spire will mark nothing less than the birth of an entirely new Chicago skyline.
In his public comments on Monday, Calatrava suggested that his tower will fit organically into the existing skyline. It will not. Jutting up at midpoint of the north-south line between the Sears Tower and the John Hancock Center, the Spire will reinvent, as those great skyscrapers did in the 1960s and '70s, the way we visualize Chicago. This is both because of its awesome height -- 549 feet taller than Sears and a whopping 873 feet taller than Hancock -- and its uniquely poetic form.
Change is jarring, of course, but Calatrava's latest design makes this brave new world a welcome prospect. The new iteration retreats from the fattish, stubby, clumsy version offered late last year as a response to Kelleher's demand to add more units and do away with the antenna-like spire, which he saw as financially unfeasible. Spire 4.0, as we might call it, returns instead to the more slender, elegantly tapering form of the first two versions, resolving almost to a point at the top.
The twisting effect created by a gradual rotation of the floorplates, which had stalled well short of the summit at about 270 degrees in the previous design, has been restored to a full 360 degrees.
While the new version lacks the physical spire that topped the early designs so satisfyingly, the renderings unveiled at a meeting of the Grant Park Conservancy show that magical nighttime lighting effect, a 21st century answer to the great Art Deco spires of the 1920s and '30s.
In an interview, Calatrava was openly skeptical about this ghost-spire feature but seemed to recognize that it may be necessary to pass regulatory muster with the administration of Mayor Daley, who is famously fond of spires. "I think it's unnecessary," Calatrava told me, "but if that's what Chicago wants, I'll do it."
My guess is, Chicago wants.
And like the third version, 4.0 keeps the parking underground, offering instead an adjacent plaza that could become a small but signature public space. The plaza, which the renderings show featuring an abstract sculpture (with, naturally, a spiraling shape) by the architect himself, is shielded by a stand of trees from Lake Shore Drive, and transitions easily into the planned DuSable Park just east of the drive.
The renderings also depict the tower's soaring four-story glass lobby at its base, in which the building meets the ground with seven steel columns circling the concrete inner core. The lobby's transparency is important to Calatrava, obviously, in part because the Spire won't be in any substantial sense a public building. It will be primarily a residence for millionaires, but the architect wants the rest of us to be able to approach it, peer into it, dream ourselves inside it as much as possible.
He needn't worry. Even for Chicagoans who never set foot in it, which is to say most of us, the Spire will be the stuff of dreams. Open your eyes anywhere in this city and there it will be. Close your eyes and it'll be there, too.
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it looks like a penis. in a poor location that isnt build to handle the traffic, it will fit the skyline but its unneccesary.. i thought this building was just a hypothetical stunt for that architect to show off his conceptual building
id like to see a guy who has a penis that looks like that. if anything, i think it has the outline of the washington monument.
as far as traffic, i dont see the issue. the residents will basically use a private road/ramp which leads onto lake shore drive. i dont see how that will back up traffic. if this building isnt built, that parcel will be developed no matter what. the reason streeterville residents are behind this in the first place (which is pretty rare) is because they are getting one tall slim tower rather than a cluster of 2-3 nondescript squat ones which will actually be more condos that this is. also, the building wont be open to the public, so its not like you will have tourists lining up for an observation deck.
this is by no means conceptual. the developer (whos a billionaire) has essentially said he will pay for this out of his own pocket if he has to. he just bought a mansion in the gold coast for 8 million (hes originally from ireland), so hes very serious about being here for the duration of the project. they're talking about order caissons for the foundation within the next 2 weeks.
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I follow architecture and development as a hobby. Anyway, the latest (probably close to final) plans were released today for the 2000', 150 floor Chicago Spire designed by Santiago Calatrava. This will drastically change Chicago's skyline. What do you think? From a distance I'm still not sure, but damn from up close its a knockout.
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This should be epic. Starts tonight.
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take some heat? why?
local h is alright, in fact i had that on in the car this morning. i didn't realize it was a concept album though.
ha i dunno, it didnt strike me that the typical Wilco fan would overlap with Local H, but then again I'm here too
Yea, its definitely a concept album. The first two tracks revolve around his life in a dead end town.
The "singer" first decides to shoot for the big time on "Lucky" ("Pack up the cats And move to the city, Leave the checks and the balance behind").
Then he arrives on the scene directly after that with "Hit The Skids" (you hear in the beginning all the annoying roadie answering machine messages, who are suddenly gravitating to him and trying to be his friend).
Then in 500,000 Scovilles, things have picked up more ("I
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I'll prob take heat for this around here, but...
Local H- Pack Up The Cats
Local H's second album, 1996's As Good as Dead, was a brave and powerful (though ultimately very depressing) concept piece about a guy utterly defeated by his inability to get out of the nowhere town where he grew up. In one sense, Local H's follow-up, 1998's Pack Up the Cats, can be seen as a companion piece, a song cycle that follows a small town rock dude as he decides to sell out and shoot for the big time -- and fails miserably, ending up farther in the hole than he started. Both ironically and appropriately, Pack Up the Cats is a good bit glossier and more engaging than As Good as Dead, not to mention a lot funnier; Roy Thomas Baker's production files down a few of the band's jagged edges and brings out the hooks in Scott Lucas' melodies while maintaining the grit of Lucas' guitar and the hard punch of Joe Daniels' drums. But just as part of what made As Good as Dead so harrowing was the fact that Lucas obviously saw a bit of himself in his principal character, Pack Up the Cats was Local H's make-or-break third album, and while it's a clear bid for a bigger place in the spotlight, at the same time Lucas and Daniels obviously understood and couldn't help commenting on the odds against them: The album's catchiest track, "All the Kids Are Right," is a superbly anthemic fist-pumping rocker about a band playing the worst show of its life. (Significantly, "All the Kids Are Right" was starting to climb the charts when Polygram's merger with Universal effectively killed the album -- a real-world disaster even Lucas couldn't predict.) While Pack Up the Cats' ironies aren't always subtle, they also bear the ring of truth, and the duo's tough but hooky punch carries the album along through tales of busted romances, bad record deals, and annoying roadies. Lots of musicians have written songs about the ups and downs of their lives in the music biz, but few have done so with as much self-searching honesty and humor -- mostly of the "whistling past the graveyard" variety -- as Local H did on Pack Up the Cats.-AMG
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I saw this in the Popmatters review, but "Fiery Crash" really does sound like "War on War's" cousin.
And I've Heretics on repeat all day. What a great song....
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i dig some Daft Punk stuff, and while that certainly looks neat/fun, after I got bored with the visuals, there really isn't a lot left to hold my interest musically...
im all about 20,000 person dance parties
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I havent seen anyone mention Intonation either. Hows their lineup shaping up?
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Daft Punk
I would get tickets just for them alone (if they do anything like last years Coachella show, look out).
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its definitely a grower of a record. im liking it more and more each time i go through it.
today the sun is finally out, and its making the album much more enjoyable
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Sky Blue Sky sounds kind of like Far Far Away because the first few notes of the riff in SBS are the same as the beginning of the solo in Far Far Away. Other than that the songs are quite different. *shrug*
lol i was listening to sky blue sky just before i saw your post and thought the exact same thing.
actually, 0:17-0:25 of "you are my face" reminds me of the beginning of u2's "with or without you" everytime.
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im loving "on and on and on", great closer. the way it builds up the whole song, and then everything just drops out at the end...beautiful.
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could someone possibly PM me a link of a rip? i was out all night and missed the stream...i was hoping it would be up longer than a few hours but oh well
Your favorite albums of 2007
in Someone Else's Song
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really? i thought i was great. i would probably put "free the bees" ahead of it, but its still really solid.