Jesusetc84

underrated effort by them.

playing right now:

Summer Teeth.

Trying to remind myself of how amazing Wilco used to be.

::Raises shield to fend of Sky Blue Sky lovers::

I gave it a 4. Sorry, just not enough there that I like. "Either Way" is nice, "On and On and On" is good. "You Are My Face" is the lone great track for my money, and even that pales in comparison to the Wilco of yore for me (it's no "She's a Jar", "Summer Teeth", "Misunderstood", "Poor Places", "Wishful Thinking" etc.) It also has my least favorite Wilco song EVER on it ("Shake it Off"). All in all a pretty dissapointing outing.

with time, this record MIGHT work it's way upto a 6 or 7, but I never see it reaching the 8 or 9 range for me.

I find Pitchfork rather shallow and pedantic.

Peter: Louis, This steak is rather shallow and pedantic...

Since most people are doing this...

 

YHF

BT

SBS

AGIB

ST

AM

I'm going with

YHF

ST

AGIB

BT

AM

SBS

Sorry, it's too late. Jeff just PM'ed me and said you are out of the club forever.

Oh, wow.

Well, I'm sure I'll manage to carry on some how.

After my initial dislike, I think I'm going to give the record till the release date to grow on me before I write it off completely.

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Nah, I was mocking the fact that you had to defend your Wilco credentials more than I was mocking what you actually said. That guy is being a total douche.

 

I haven't heard the album, but hey, some people seem to like it and some people don't. It's pretty ridiculous that anyone has to prove that they like Wilco just because they don't like this particular record.

Well, I have a sinus infection right now. Maybe that's why I'm reminded of it.

And yeah...I mean...seriously. I don't know.

I'll see you guys in 2-3 years when Wilco seven comes out. Peace.

I once crawled 32 miles with a broken leg and skin cancer to buy a Loose Fur CD. I then had all of the lyrics tattooed on my penis, which I then sold to a homeless man for 45 cents, because that's how much more I needed to buy a ticket to a Jeff Tweedy solo show. At the show I was shot in the face eleven times, but still had a great time.

 

I have not heard the new album.

Oh Jesus heh.

I should've known this would open me up to tons of dissing.

But who cares.

heh...I still have my opinion and there's nothing people can do to strip me of that, and it seems to bother a few members.

nothing wrong with disliking the record, but acting like a complete tool doesn't really make me care about your opinion. This is a Wilco message board, it's pretty obvious you have entered the Church of Tweedy. I love him, no denial here.

Yeah I love Wilco. If I did I wouldn't have blown like 500 dollars on Wilco stuff over the years. Albums, side projects, and concert tickets out of my poverty (I'm a college student...yeah money's rough.)

I wouldn't have walked 5 miles with a sinus infection to see Wilco at Jazz fest a few years ago.

I wouldn't have waited on a street alone where I could've gotten mugged just to meet the band.

I LOVE Wilco. But I do not love this record.

I'm sorry if I'm coming across as an asshole; I'm kind of bitter about this record. Maybe I don't have a right to be, but I am.

I can't believe how many people hate Wilco...

My favorite songwriters are Lennon, McCartney and Bob Dylan.

All three have made albums I don't like, and songs I think are terrible.

The fact that you don't like a single record a band makes doesn't mean you hate them.

See, what you're doing there is you're saying that if you don't like the record, there's something wrong with you. Fuck you.

Exactly.

I think this record sucks.

I'm entitled to this opinion, and it's kind of irritating that the Church of Tweedy doesn't want any dissenting opinions.

I'm not saying it sucks to piss people off. I'm really sad that the record does nothing for me, that I waited three years for something sub-Wilco.

And that's my right to feel that way, and to express that opinion.

And I do not hate Wilco for the record; I've spent hours of my life trying to turn people onto them who hadn't heard of them. I've bought friends Wilco records as presents before. I have like 3 Wilco based AIM handles. I'm a big fan, and have been. But I just don't like this.

just yankin' ya tail

::vomits:: ugh...too hung over for a drink.

that was quite the bullshit review Jesusetc84...are you Jay Bennett?

So the fact that I don't like it makes my opinion invalid.

I'm not drinking the kool-aid this time around.

But they didn't teach you how to spell it

Oh Jesus; grammar police.

I'm hung over...give me a break.

I'll be honest.

I can't like this record.

I really kind of hate it.

I just feel so dissapointed. Every Wilco album post-A.M. was a top album of the year for me. Wilco 1996-2004 meant the same thing to me as the great album runs of R.E.M., Sonic Youth, Talking Heads, etc. Every album they did (including the firs Mermaid Avenue) in this period was on my top 10 list for the end of the year.

This is just...so below Wilco to my ears. There's not a song on this record that I'd say is as good as anything on Yankee Hotel Foxtrot or Summer Teeth.

Past Wilco records have evoked great artists like The Beatles, The Stones, Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, The Beach Boys, The Velvet Underground, Neil Young, Gram Parsons, The Band, Television, & The Replacements.

This record evokes Seals and Croft, Loggins and Messina, The Doobie Brothers, Yes, and Foreigner.

Which is fine if you like the above bands; but I don't.

Wilco taught me to get into a lot of music that I wasn't necessarily into before hand. Wilco got me into Country. Wilco got me into the avant garde. But I'll be damned if Wilco is going to get me into hammock rock music with this album.

I'm giving it a 4/ 10. The lowest I've ever given a Wilco record upto this point was A.M., which I gave a 7/10.

Everything else has been above an 8.5.

I don't know about the whole "promo" single thing. I guess I always think of singles as:

1. Something with B-sides

2. Available to purchase.

3. Something that is charted.

Like these:

Box Full Of Letters CD-Single 1995

Outtasite (Outta Mind) CD-Single 1997

A Shot In The Arm CD-Single 1999

A Shot In The Arm CD-Single 1999

Can't Stand It CD-Single 1999

Can't Stand It CD-Single 1999

War On War CD-Single 2002

 

But I guess other people have different ideas of a single.

 

Singles : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_%28music%29

Cd-singles are a lot less prevelant than they were ten or fifteen years ago. They've been replaced by a large degree by promos, and i-Tunes pre-album releases.

To the people who say Wilco don't do singles:

"Box Full of Letters", "I Must Be High", "Casino Queen", "Outtasite", "Monday", "Hotel Arizona", "Can't Stand It", "A Shot in The Arm", "Nothingsevergonnastandinmyway(Again)", ""Kamera", "War on War", "Jesus Etc;", "Heavy Metal Drummer", "I'm a Wheel" and "Theologians" were all released as promo singles.

Sky Blue Sky will definitely have a single of some sorts.

I will with hold my criticisms until I hear the album in it's entirety.

Though I'm not pleased with the new tracks ("Walken" in particular) I will give Wilco the benefit of the doubt. It's only fitting for a band that's given so much to me.

The digital/analog quesiton....One of my good friends used to intern at a prominent studio in LA and he said that a lot of the time recording would be done through Protools (digital) and then output to tape once the mixing was done. I don't know the details of this, however.

Every album is mixed to tape. It's sort of a superstitious thing.

You see, analog tape machines are very easy to come by, and they are also very physical.

If the digital copies get deleted/ wiped (or God forbid a technological holocaust where all computers stop working) They could still have copies of the albums on tape.

These aren't used for transfers though, the signal to noise ratio on protools is just so much higher than that of analog tape.

That's why no matter what, remasters of old records never sound as clean as a record done. Sure you can remove all of the hiss, but it results in a hollow sound (see Let it Be...Naked.) The noise floor on analog tape is much higher.

I wonder if Adams kept a reciept when he bought his own hype. He may want a refund.

Corduroy Cutoff Girl is a pretty kickass song.

It's fun I guess.. I just think Radio Cure is on a completely different artistic plane, but that's me.

If SBS is Dad rock, then Bring on the dad rock for all I care! Screw all the cheesy youth angst and piss-poor poetic non-sequiturs in Summerteeth.

To each his own:

Should I prepare your boat to set sail captain?

Granted I still have hope. Remember, "Radio Cure" was once "Corduroy Cuttoff Girl".

I hope to hell this doesn't LEAK.

I hope to hell I get a pony for Christmas.

My dad listens to Bob Dylan and the Rolling Stones. If you're older, your dad could have been all about Bo Diddly and Chuck Berry. I learned alot about rock from my dad and I turned him on to Wilco. In my world Sky Blue Sky might end up being Dad rock in the coolest way.

My dad personally has gotten into a lot of stuff from me.

It's just another name for...

YACHT ROCK!

Let's set sail...

I think they put "On&On&On" on the album to spite the overwhelming majority of us who voted it least likely song to appear on the album. All of that aside, I'm more nervous about this album than I have been in ten years of being a Wilco fan. I'm really worried that the mellow is going to takeover.

I'm nervous they've degenerated to complete dad Rock (No offense to the dads here) and will start touring with Billy Joel and Hall & Oates.