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I asked this years ago. I believe we determined that it was the demo song from either the Mellotron or the Chamberlain. 

 

I remember also hearing it in a golf apparel commercial starring Phil Mickelson in like 2008 or 2009.

That's exactly it: the last six seconds of the Cha Cha rhythm track from the Mellotron:

https://soundcloud.com/nordkeyboards/chacha-swflutes-ul_ryfi-mellot

the lady who played Megan Draper on Mad Men came to one of my shows once. 

 

also the singer from Blitzen Trapper came to a cover gig i played once 

Weird! Megan Draper was at one of my shows too!

I feel obliged to mention this page in particular, and this site in general:

http://radiocure.wikispaces.com/At+My+Window+Sad+and+Lonely

Wow, this thread is still going.  And sadly I no longer have any of the gear I posted in 2006. 

 

I miss the Martin the most.

Listen, dear Martin,

I miss you the most

It is a Muddy Waters Telecaster. There is a picture in this thread above. It is really comfortable to play (compared to heavy Les Pauls, etc.). I have no complaints here. The tuners are a bit tough to string, but minor grievance.

That's good guitar. A fat neck and big frets if I remember correctly? It's funny you're not taking to the safe-t-post tuners as they are by far my favorites. When you're stringing up, after you feed the string through the bridge, pull it tight(ish) and cut it two to two-and-a-half posts further than the post you're going to feed it into. For example, if you're putting in the low E string, cut the string between the D and G posts. For the A string, cut between the G and B posts. Just estimate for the B and high E. Jam the string down the hole, and you are good to go. No muss, no fuss. Re-stringing heaven!

The first thing I did was swap strings. I am used to playing Mediums (13s) on my acoustic. LOVE heavy strings and I HATE small gauge. I put on the heaviest electrics I could get (11s) and they still feel a little light for me, but I will get used to it, I am sure.

Good job. I cannot play heavy strings because I have weak little girl hands (I set up my guitar with relatively low action and a flat neck so that people who play my guitar think I'm playing 8s (I play 10s on Teles and 11s on my Casino)). I think that the Wilco-ites play 12s or so? Though Jeff plays an SG which has a shorter scale than a Tele so it would feel closer to a Tele with 11s. Nels plays a Jazzmaster (which has a longer scale like a Tele) with 12s I believe. Though I think he uses Tele with 10s for the more country-ish bendy stuff. Jay Bennett said that he used 11s, but I'm not sure if he was referring to his long scale or his short scale guitars or both.

This is my short-coming; not the hardware.

Hmmm... you sound a little too humble to be an ELECTRIC guitarist. There is a time-honored tradition of blaming the gear among electric guitarists. Remember, with great gear comes great responsibility... to blame the gear so you can buy more gear.

The Blues Jr. is a fine amp, in my opinion. I have a Pro Jr (not the same but similar) that I think is great and the Blues Jrs that I've tried sound pretty great. A pedal like the OCD would go great in front of one. I'd set everything on the amp to 12 o'clock (halfway) and tweak from there. if your tele is too jangly, turn down down the treble a little bit -- it might help it. Also, be sure to experiment with the tone knob on your tele. Most players (I assume) set it all the way up but I think you can take away a little of the brittle-ness by roll down the tone juuuuust a touch. The Blues Jrs have a Middle tone knob right? You're on your own with that, but more mids = fatter, bluesier sound (generally) and less mids = thinner, more clucky sound (generally). I like clucky so I scoop out mids when I can (I can't as my amp doesn't have a middle knob).

Just guessing here, but the level on the delay is probably the level of the repeats or the balance between the dry (un-delayed) sound and the delayed sound. If 12:00 isn't unity (the repeats are the same level as the dry), then all the way up is probably unity.

You didn't mention what type of tele you have. It's hard to go wrong with any of the tele models out today. Even Squier teles can be pretty good. I find with Japanese fenders the electrics are always lacking -- thin, not a lot of character -- so I have to swap out the pickups and replace the switch and pots while I'm at it.

There's a lot of voodoo about guitars (teles especially) and you should believe about 30% of it, but I can't tell you which 30%. I will say that in my completely uneducated opinion, pickups and strings (and amp) matter more than virtually anything else to how the tele sounds. If you haven't changed the strings yet (and if you're not playing one of the reissue models) then you're probably playing 9s, with which you can get a really nice James Burton sound (he actually use(d) an assortment of banjo strings to get a functionally MUCH lighter set*). If that's not to your liking you can go up a gauge or two. It would probably be pretty easy for you to try that out seeing as how you normally play acoustic. You might get a sound more to your liking if you tried putting on a set of 10s (you may not, but the point is it's a cheap and, for you, painless way of experimenting).

Anyhoo, I wouldn't do this anytime soon, but swapping out pickups is fun if you have disposable cash and can be trusted with molten lead (or are okay with burning yourself every now and again or have good health insurance). There's a wealth of information out there about pickups and you can have just as much fun with that as with getting pedals.

Speaking of which, you have some good gear for getting the sound you want. If I'm making this up correctly, the OCD really works with the amp to make its magic, so you might play with setting your amp to greater-than-bedroom volume levels (as GoE suggests) to fully hear what the OCD is capable of. Your neighbors will not like you. You will like the OCD. It's a fair trade.

Anyhoo, congrats on your new toys and welcome to a whole new (and probably paycheck-eating) world!

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Thanks for this!

Anyone have an mp3 of that?

Apparently, they are taking suggestions for questions to ask Mr. Tweedy.

http://www.avclub.co...tomorrow,84610/

Apologies if this has already been posted.

Apologies also for misspelling "interviews"

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(also from gogo, fyi, for anyone else who has this problem: titles can be edited by the creator of the thread! just click on "edit" in the bottom right corner of your first post, then click on "full editor"; that'll take you to a screen that allows you to edit the title and tags )

well, we ARE wasting our time and tone IS in the hands, but i happen to be pretty good at wasting time. Wish I were better about getting great tone out of my hands:)

Haha. Yeah, wasting time is pretty much the only thing I'm really good at. I use a compressor for country-type stuff, but I use a compressor for everything because it's just kind of a talent-maker. I sound soooo much more like a competent guitarist when I have a compressor on -- I'm just addicted to the sound and what it does for my perceived level of skill.

I'm sure Jay has used compressors at some point but he doesn't need anything to make him seem like a good guitarist; he just is one.

I'm not sure he DEFINITELY used a compressor (he didn't have one on his solo tour and he rocked it pretty hard) and putting a compressor after the boost pedal kind of defeats the purpose, no? I kinda suspect that the Boss is a tuner and the Arion is a delay, also. Any more help from the message boards?

It IS the only decent picture of his pedalboard from that era, so thanks for posting it! I'm pretty sure about the Boss Tuner and MXR Micro Amp and Blue Box. When I saw him on his last (RIP) solo tour those were the only pedals he used, so it makes sense that they were always with him.

You got me. The light color on the battery compartment of the Arion pedal makes me think either a compressor, tuner, or equalizer, maybe a stereo delay or phaser. You know, assuming that it's an Arion pedal and that they have never changed their color scheme in 20 years.

The Memory Man theory is a good guess, but yeah, not enough knobs and I actually think that it's not wide enough. It may be a pedal turned on its side?

I thought briefly that the two switch pedal was a bicomprossor, but not also enough knobs. I'm stumped.

I'm not sure exactly what he's playing there, but what I play, and what would appear to be mostly correct given your description, is a variation of the standard blues shuffle lick.

The standard blues shuffle would be:

|..+.....+.....+.....+.....|..+.....+.....+.....+......

e--------------------------|--------------------------|

B--------------------------|--------------------------|

G--------------------------|--------------------------|

D--------------------------|--------------------------|

A--5--5--7--7--5--5--7--7--|--5--5--7--7--5--5--7--7--|

E--3--3--3--3--3--3--3--3--|--3--3--3--3--3--3--3--3--|

The little 'plusses' (+) above the tab are where the beats fall, so you would count it "one and two and three and four and one and two and three and four and."

Again, I'm not sure of the exact rhythm of what Jeff is playing, but something like this seems to fit with the feel of the song:

1..+.....+.....+.....+.....2..+.....+.....+.....+......

e--------------------------|--------------------------|

B--------------------------|--------------------------|

G--------------------------|--------------------------|

D--------------------------|--------------------------|

A-----5-h7-----5-----7-p5--|-----5-h7-----5-h7--5-----|

E-----3--------3-----3-----|-----3--------3-----3-----|

Count "rest and two three four and rest and two three and four."

Play around with these two figures until you find something that works for you.

Also, this from when the local club had a tribute to Fleetwood Mac. The band's called the breakups, so that night we called ourselves "Peter Green's the breakups."

Hee hee; just found this. It's more than a couple years old, but here's my band playing the somewhat local college radio station:

http://www.stickam.c...d&mId=177980363

I guess technically this isn't youtube, but it is a video that can be seen on the interwebs, so I'm hoping it can be grandfathered in.

Haha, I have two relationships that are so entwined with Wilco that it's hard for me to listen to them without thinking of my exes. For me, Summerteeth will always remind me of a car trip when my ex and I took three days to drive from Los Angeles to San Francisco (it normally takes 5 hours). We brought along London Calling and some Replacements album, but we were just getting into Wilco together and Summerteeth was just this revelation. When we finally got to see Wilco live it was right before Yankee came out and right after September 11th. After the show, my ex commented that it was almost a spiritual experience and that we might never fully understand it. She was right. We just drove around in the night until we finally came down enough to go home to bed.

She's married now. I don't know if she thinks about that evening; she's probably had a dozen just like that with her husband.

Many years later Tweedy was doing his pacific northwest tour. I had a friend living in San Francisco (I live in LA) and we decided that we would go see his shows in SF and then follow him to his San Diego and Los Angeles shows. I suppose no one does this kind of thing unless they like each other (which was obvious to everyone who wasn't me) so we quickly started dating. And just as quickly stopped. We went to the wedding of the mutual friend that introduced us, broke up the next week over the phone, and never saw each other again. I have the Sunken Treasure DVD -- we were pressed up against the stage at the Fillmore and I don't think I'll be able to watch it ever on the off chance that I'll see us together.

similarly with the G4, what you have written out is a Gadd4 (a major G chord + a 4th). if the 3rd is omitted, that would be a Gsus4. the term "G4" is generally used to mean the single G note within the 4th octave on a piano.

We'd probably want to call it a Gadd11, no? As it is an extension of the chord rather than the substitution for the 3rd?

Anthony's kind of the moderator over there and so far he's only let in like 4 members, most, if not all, of whom are via chicago residents. I had much your same worry when Anthony announced the wiki, but so far it's working well. I've posted a bunch, edited a few and it's not been a problem at all.

Thanks for posting that!

Yes, yes I was confused. My eyes read one thing, and my brain read something else.

I ran the dryer yesterday without anything in it. I cleaned the lint tray, shut the door, and set it for casual and pressed start. Nothing in the dryer at all. So... yeah, no problem. Don't worry about it.

I personally like the semi-weighted waterfall keybed – better than you standard electronic keyboard keybed, and perfect for organ stuff – I think it’s a good compromise.

It works for you -- that is great. It just didn't work for me. When I play organ I want a ridiculously light touch -- it covers up my lack of talent. But it's much too light for me for piano and (especially) Rhodes. It's actually pretty perfect for Wurly, though. Again, for me.

What would you want a compressor for? To get more honk out of the wurli without a jump in volume? That sort of thing?

Yeah pretty much. I found that in a band context the EPs (especially the Wurly) kinda disappeared in the mix and their dynamic range was a little too broad for rock and/or roll and no amount of fussing with velocity curves fixed it (to my satisfaction). I just wanted them to punch a little more. I think the Electro 3 has a compressor section and some amp sims so that looks to be mostly resolved.

It’s a bit of a shame that the Electro 3 is still mono-timbral – it would be great if you could get an organ bass happening with an electric piano right hand – but I guess they need to differentiate their product line. If you really want to split your keyboard then cough-up the extra dosh for a Stage.

You said it. Is the ability to have piano on the left hand and mellotron on the right worth $1,000?

The MicroKorg is a great little box; people I really like love them -- Jon Brion has one above his Piano at Largo, Kori from Mates of State has one sitting atop her organ. I recently replaced the keyboardist of a band and she used the singer's MicroKorg for the synth sounds. I used it for a while before I got fed up with the little keys (I'm actually a shockingly limited keyboardist -- I can't play evenly unless there's some weight under the keys and I can't tell where my hand is with miniature keys). So I spent an hour or two writing patches on my Ion to match those sounds and ditched the MicroKorg. On a side note, @mahinty: I think you're confusing the Alesis Ion with the smaller Alesis Micron.

I had a Nord Electro 2 briefly and it was pretty heavenly, except for:

(1) Shockingly awful acoustic piano. Shocking.

(2) Semi weighted keys that split the difference between real Hammond keys and piano keys in a way that I personally didn't like.

(3) Lack of an onboard compressor (this would have really helped out the Wurly).

(4) Silly non-three pronged plug.

I still miss it, though (it has a good home with another ex-keyboardist of my band). The minute I'm seriously in the black, I'm plunking down the change for an Electro 3 with hammer action keys.

That's a really early polyphonic keyboard. The lid-looking thing is a sweepable low-pass filter and it has a pedal to change the amplifier envelope's release parameter.

You're both pretty. This seems an example of people talking past each other. I think Anthony has a good tab of the recorded version, and Fragile makes a good tab of a live version (with the correction noted below). I really don't hear the D7 lick in the recorded version (though a piano jumps in at the exact moment it would be there so it's hard to tell). But its definitely there in that live version, though I think Fragile missed the string in a couple places (I don't have my guitar so this is mostly a guess):

3..V.....V.....V.....V.....4..V.....V.....V.....V.....|

e--2-----2-----------------|--------------------------|

B--3-----3--------3—----0h1|-----0--------------------|

G--2-----2-----2--4-----2--|-----2-----2--------------|

D--0-----0-----0--0-----0--|-----0-----0-----------0--|

A--------------------------|-----------------0—-0h2---|

E--------------------------|--------------------------|

That's what is kind of great about a wiki; the best tabs will bubble up or mediocre tabs will be made better without a lot of effort herding cats which is kind of what happens when group decisions have to be made. I don't think that finding tabs will be much of a problem; there are A LOT of them out there.