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Yes, but I remember there being a line by line tab. The only reason I'm being a stickler is because I am going to print out a tab book. For personal use obviously, don't worry I'm not planning on selling any of everyone's hard work
I am just puzzled at why these links are not working
Luckily, I write most of my tab posts in Word and then copy and paste them in the forum, so I have copies of stuff I did (though I don't know if anyone corrected anything as I didn't update the Word file as the topic progressed). Anyhoo, here's what I tabbed for Someday, Some Morning, Sometime:
...as far as I can tell the proper tuning is (low to high) DADADe. I’m guessing as:(1) It seems to sound okay
(2) When I saw him live he wasn’t fretting anything to play measures 5, 7, and 8 below
I’m doing this from memory (I originally learned it from the 3/5/05 Vic show) so:
(1) I reserve the right to make changes ad nauseum (intro measure 4 is particularly hazy in my memory)
(2) There are extra strings hit here and there that I didn’t write or notice or some that I threw in that don’t belong there -- listen to it and you’ll get the gist
(3) It might sound subtly different from your recording
(4) I really love lists today
Without further ado:
Intro:
1..+.....+.....+.....+.....2..+.....+.....+.....+......
e--0--0--0-----0--0--0-----|--0-----------0-----------|
D--7--7--7\----5--5--5\----|--4--7--4-----5-----4-----|
A--9--9--9\----7--7--7\----|--5--5--5-----5--5--5-----|
D--0-----------0-----------|--0-----------0-----------|
A--------------------------|--------------------------|
D--------------------------|--------------------------|
3..+.....+.....+.....+.....4..+.....+.....+.....+......
e--------------------------|--------------------------|
D----5------4-----2-----2--|-----5-----5-----5-----5--|
A--------2-----------2-----|--5--5--7--5-----5--7--5--|
D--2-----------2-----------|--5--5--5--5-----5-----5--|
A--------------------------|--5-----------------------|
D--------------------------|--5-----------------------|
5..+.....+.....+.....+.....6..+.....+.....+.....+......
e-----------0--------------|--------------------------|
D-----------------0--------|-----------------5--------|
A--0--------------------0--|--------------7-------/9--|
D--0-----0-----------0-----|--5-----5-----------------|
A--0-----0-----------------|--5-----5-----------------|
D--0-----0-----------------|--5-----5-----------------|
7..+.....+.....+.....+.....8..+.....+.....+.....+......
e-----------0-----------0--|-----------0--------------|
D-----------------0--------|-----0-----------0--------|
A--------0-----------------|--------------------------|
D--0-----0-----------0-----|--------0-----------0-----|
A--0-----0-----------------|--------------------------|
D--0-----0-----------------|--------------------------|
Repeat and replace measure 8 with this:
8..+.....+.....+.....+......
e-----------0--------------|
D-----0--------------------|
A----------------0---------|
D--------0-------0---2--4--|
A----------------0---2--4--|
D--------------------2--4--|
Verse
1..+.....+.....+.....+.....2..+.....+.....+.....+......
e--------------------------|--------------------------|
D--------------------------|--------------------------|
A--------------------------|--------------------------|
D--5-----5-----5-----4-----|--2-----2-----2-----2/----|
A--5-----5-----5-----4-----|--2-----2-----2-----2/----|
D--5-----5-----5-----4-----|--2-----2-----2-----2/----|
3..+.....+.....+.....+.....4..+.....+.....+.....+......
e--------------------------|--------------------------|
D--------------------------|--------------------------|
A--------------------------|--------------------------|
D--7-----7-----7-----7-----|--0-----0-----0--0--2--4--|
A--7-----7-----7-----7-----|--0-----0-----0--0--2--4--|
D--7-----7-----7-----7-----|--0-----0-----0-----2--4--|
5..+.....+.....+.....+.....6..+.....+.....+.....+......
e--------------------------|--------------------------|
D--------------------------|--------------------------|
A--------------------------|--------------------------|
D--5-----5-----5-----5\----|--0-----0-----0--0--2--4--|
A--5-----5-----5-----5\----|--0-----0-----0--0--2--4--|
D--5-----5-----5-----5\----|--0-----0-----0-----2--4--|
7..+.....+.....+.....+.....8..+.....+.....+.....+......
e--------------------------|-----------0-----------0--|
D--------------------------|-----------------0--------|
A--------------------------|--------0-----------------|
D--5-----5-----5-----5-----|--0-----0-----------0-----|
A--5-----5-----5-----5-----|--0-----0-----------------|
D--5-----5-----5-----5-----|--0-----0-----------------|
9..+.....+.....+.....+......
e-----------0--------------|
D-----0--------------------|
A----------------0---------|
D--------0-------0---2--4--|
A----------------0---2--4--|
D--------------------2--4--|
Solo thingee:
1..+.....+.....+.....+.....2..+.....+.....+.....+......
e--------------------------|--------------------------|
D--------------------------|--------------------------|
A-----5--------------------|-----------5--7--5--------|
D--4-----------------------|--5-----5-----5--5--------|
A--0-----------------------|--5-----5-----------------|
D--0-----------------------|--5-----5-----------------|
Repeat a couple of times, then:
7..+.....+.....+.....+..........
e-------------------------------|
D-------------------------------|
A-----5--------5----------------|
D--4--------4-------------4b(5)-|
A--0----------------------------|
D--0----------------------------|
Use the Ernie Ball volume pedal hooked up to the reverb thing you have laying around the house for proper effect.
Hmmm... I think when I play it now, I strum a lot more things and generally play more notes. Eh. Play what you like.
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when was Jay's last show with Wilco?
I have it as July 4, 2001
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Ha. I have a Delta Blues (2x10, though) and a Roland Jazz Chorus. My friend has a Classic 50 and a Silverface Champ. I guess we like value.
I wonder why the Fender Pro Junior isn't there. Oh well, I guess not everyone is as sold on them as I am (or there just has to be an end to a list).
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Oops...sorry admins/moderators. Didn't mean to try and start a new topic...thought this one was over.
*According to Billboard/AP, Jay Bennett's death was due to an overdose on painkillers.
http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/ex-wilco-member-jay-bennett-died-of-overdose-1003986858.story
God, this hit me like a brick. I don't know what I was expecting to hear about the cause of death, but whatever reason this particular news really depressed me. I guess because it means that he was in pain, and I can't stand the idea.
I don't know if this was mentioned, but right when Summerteeth was released, Jay and Jeff did a DJ session at KCRW in Santa Monica, California, in advance of their show there. They played a bunch of songs, some that influenced Summerteeth, and some they just liked. One of the songs was Elvis Costello's "Sleep of the Just" and Jay joked that he sings the song to himself every night. Goodnight Jay. Sleep the sleep of just.
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Does anybody know what the rather large delay box that Nels keeps to his right on a table (and manipulates often by hand during the live show) is? Or is it a generic MIDI controller controlling something on the floor or backstage?
I think it's a Electro Harmonix 16-second digital delay. Not the new reissue (which really only borrows the name), but the vintage model.
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Good catch, but I don't think it's THAT new of a trick for Jeff (though it is unusual that there are so many on this album). Just off the top of my head:
I Got You
Say You Miss Me
Poor Places
We're Just Friends
Someday Soon
Hummingbird
Either Way
All contain the bVI. It's a pretty poppy move. Therefore, I like it.
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God, this is awful. RIP Jay. Thank you so much for everything you've given me.
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So, there's been a bunch of discussion of Jay, his medical and legal issues, and his contribution to the band. Of these three things I will say three things:
(1) I hope Jay has a speedy recovery
(2) I hope everyone involved gets everything that they deserve and nothing that they don't deserve
(3) Jay might've been my favorite thing about Wilco's sound
I mean, beyond the discussion of Jay's contribution to the songwriting, I think he had a wonderful gift of crafting instrumental parts that were instantly recognizable, melodic, and catchy (I think that Wilco to some extent is still capable of doing this kind of thing -- Hell is Chrome, I'm a Wheel -- but they just don't seem as interested in it anymore). So, to show my appreciation for Jay's instrumental parts, I thought I'd tab a couple of things out that he does that I find especially impressive. I encourage other to do the same and post here or just post requests.
However, because I am lazy, I'll only commit to tabbing one thing right now, Jay's part to the live version of Airline to Heaven. It's pretty awesome and difficult to play up to speed but immensely rewarding once learned. The live version is really similar to the recorded version though it's played on an electric 12-string and he throws in some extra finger picking just to show off (which I personally love about him). Really the whole thing is showing off since he frets things AND uses a slide, which isn't unheard off, but it's just neat. I used the 4th of July show at Petrillo Music Shell in Grant Park (otherwise known as Jay's last show), which sounds pretty badass and is oddly poingnant .
12-string electric guitar
Tuned to open D (D A D F# A d)
Capo 2 (alternatively, you could just tune to open E -- E B E G# B e -- and omit the capo)
You'll need to put a slide on your pinky (or ring finger if it's comfy)
Pick and fingers!
1...V.....^.....V.....^.....V.....^.....V.....^......
e------------------------0-----------0--------------|
B---------------------0-----------0-----------------|
G#--------0-----1-p0--------------------------------|
E---------------------------2-p0--------------------|
B---------------------------------------2-p0--------|
E---0-----------------------------------------2/3---| Repeat!
It's all fretted until the final slide at the end of the measure, which is played with the, um, slide. It's really not too important if you slide from the 2nd to the 3rd fret or the 3rd to the 4th or the 2nd to the 4th since it happens pretty quick and it's more about making slide-y noises and being cool.
Use a pick for the third through sixth strings and middle and ring fingers to pluck the second and first strings.
From there it's just a matter of using the slide to slide all the strings up to the 5th fret for the A chord and to the 7th fret for the B chord (oh, and playing all open strings when appropriate).
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Hmmm... the responses so far have either been really helpful for a beginner trying to learn this song, or they have been the least helpful things ever posted, mostly for the same reasons. If you're not sure how to work the hammer-ons into a song, then the noting that there should be hammer-ons is somewhat confusing. However, beginners should learn to train their ears and develop a sense for how simple ideas repeat themselves in lots of songs and (most importantly) learn to trust their own taste, so saying "do some hammer-ons" is actually encouraging and can lessen intimidation.
Still, I couldn't help but to take a stab in an effort to be somewhat illuminating, so here is my go at the intro, which can serve as a model for just about anytime you have a G chord:
(of course, capo 2)
(also, it might not be clear but V indicates a downbeat and ^ indicates an upbeat)
1...V.....^.....V.....^.....V.....^.....V.....^......
f#--------------------------------------------------|
C#-----------------------1-----------------------1--|
A---------------------0-----------------------0-----|
E---0-----0--0--0-h2-------p0-----------0-h2--------|
B---X-----X--X--------------------------------------|
F#--3-----------------------3-----------------------|
2...V.....^.....V.....^.....V.....^.....V.....^......
f#--------------------------------------------------|
C#-p0--------------------1-p0--------------------1--|
A---------------------0--------0--------------0-----|
E--p0-----------0-h2-------p0-----0-----0-h2--------|
B---------------------------------------------------|
F#--3-----------------------3-----------------------|
Now, I can see why people would write things as cryptic as "do some hammer-ons;" this is not exactly the easiest thing for a beginner to play -- you're not really holding down a G chord in the normal position and you have to hammer-on the fourth string, let it ring, pick the third, then hammer-on the second string, then finally pull-off of the second and fourth strings (which you kept ringing) while you pick the sixth. This is not the first thing you learn on guitar. And in that case, the trying to learn the actual part might be discouraging for a beginner. So saying "hammer on" isn't entirely un-helpful if you just want to be able to play something (in which case, hammer-on the open fourth string to the second fret).
Still, it's not THAT hard and it sounds pretty sophisticated once you have it under your fingers. You might like to find your own pattern of strumming and hammering-on (and that's fine), but at least you'll be able to match what you hear to how to play it.
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Hello, and I'm pretty sure this is my first post.
the new song off of the rumored mermaid ave. 3, jolly banker, is excellent and i would like to play it some day. Let's collectively make mine and other people's dreams become a reality. (by tabbing the song)
I dunno if there's going to be a Mermaid 3, and I really don't know if this song would be on it as the words and melody was written by Woody and the other Mermaids were Wilco putting Woody's words to their own melodies. Anyway, that is no matter. Welcome to Via Chicago! Let's the get started on the right foot and tab out that song for you. I only did the first verse because, well, they're all the same (and I'm too lazy to write down words, anyway).
[G]
My [G]name is Tom Cranker
And [C]I
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I can't believe there are three pages already on something that hasn't even been written.
I can believe it.
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Personally I can't wait for the day when a whole lot fewer people think Wilco is cool.....
LouieB
Shoot, I want to see them at the El Rey again.
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I don't get this anti-Pitchfork attitude. Like any review site, they review things so you don't have to buy everything that ever existed to find things you like. If they give things high marks that you think are awful, maybe Pitchfork is not for you. If they give things low marks that you think are manifestations of god on earth, then maybe Pitchfork is not for you. I tend to find that Pitchfork matches my taste most of the time and so when they give something a high mark and it sounds like something I would like, I go buy it. I discovered the New Pornographers and Destroyer that way. Of course, they gave the new Mates of State a middling review and I liked it (though not as much as Bring It Back), so they don't represent my exact taste.
Really, Wilco reviews are of limited use to anyone here. We're going to buy the album regardless of what anyone says so looking up Wilco reviews seems like an exercise in insecurity -- we want to be sure that other people think that our taste is cool. Sorry, but the really cool kids still don't think we're cool; it's better if we just accept that and be happy liking what we like.
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Try this: http://forums.viachicago.org/index.php?s=&...st&p=857342
There's a lot of talk before that and some mistakes were made, but I think that's the final(ish) version of the tab (I linked directly to it to avoid confusion).
I hope this helps.
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This seems weird:
"...15% of the income generated by sales and performances of the group's recordings of the song earned during each non-owning members term"
and the very next line is:
...continual and perpetual".
Don't those two things seem opposed?
No. Jay's not asking to be paid for things written while he wasn't in the band, but when Summerteeth sells another copy next year, he wants to be paid for that, too.
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Yes, as I said, if it's commercially released, they do have to pay royalties. But this lawsuit technically doesn't (or shouldn't) affect regular, non Ashes/KT Wilco concerts. Artists can play whatever they want in concert, without worrying about royalties. If it was any different, shitty bar bands would cease to exist.
Yeah, the venue owner has to pay for the songs performed that aren't owned by the performers. I think there's a deal where they just pay into a fund and it gets distributed to songwriters based on the relative popularity of the songs (or something like that).
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Somehow I thought that this was somewhat old news. Not the lawsuit part of it, but that Jay has been saying for a while that he was not properly compensated for his work. I don't know what the statute of limitations is, but it might be that Jay's suing in order to get in under the wire and essentially buy time (since once you file suit, there's really no limit to how long the process takes).
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Me too.
(btw, great signature ginandcigarettes.)
How'd I know you'd like that?
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Nice. But I still prefer Jeff's white JM:
Agreed.
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It might depend on what counts as a member, but they had a good run between MA, ST, and MA2 with Jeff, Jay, Ken, and John. Bob Egan was pretty much out of the band during MA even though he appears on it. And while Leroy was on ST and MA2, I'm not sure he was a full member until YHF. That is, Bob is a guest on MA (like [shudder] Natalie Merchant) and Leroy is a guest on ST and MA2, so it's the same lineup on all three records. That seems like a good enough story. Yeah, I'm going with that.
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I'd probably keep the entirety of Disc 1 save for What's The World Got In Store and Hotel Arizona. Then add in Sunken Treasure, Someone Else's Song (it's weaker, but thematically important), and the Lonely 1 from the second disc.
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You started off strong, but then you went off the rails, and badly.
How about their position on this chart?
Sky Blue Sky
A Ghost Is Born
Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
Kicking Television
Being There
Summerteeth
Mermaid Avenue II
Mermaid Avenue
A.M.
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negative, ghostrider.
Hmmm... How about:
A.M.
Being There, Summerteeth (tie)
Sky Blue Sky
Mermaid Avenue
A Ghost is Born
Mermaid Avenue II, Wilco (the Album) (tie)
Kicking Television
Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
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You know, once we get a decent clean air act instated by Mr. Obama hopefully the smog out there on the left coast will clear, and your brains will no longer be saturated with all that toxicity. You will then come to the realization that the only logical answer is THIS:
AM
BT
ST
YHF
AGIB
SBS
W (TA)
You're welcome.
Wait, wait, I think I FINALLY get the problem:
A.M.
Being There
Ghost is Born, A
Kicking Television
Mermaid Avenue
Mermaid Avenue II
Sky Blue Sky
Summerteeth
Wilco the Album
Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
There!
jay bennett's pedalboard
in Solid State Technology
Posted
I caught him at a small club in 2007 and snagged this pick of his pedals:
That's:
Boss Chromatic Tuner
MXR Micro Amp (clean boost)
MXR Blue Box (fuzz with octave)
I'm pretty sure that when I saw him a few years before that, he had the same pedals minus the Blue Box. Of course, this was during his solo years; I have no idea what he used in Wilco.