rockinrob

I taped Tampa!

I will need to have people bugging me to ensure I get it out in a timely fashion. I still have two drive by truckers shows, three dr dog shows and two tom petty shows I havent finished editing/EQing/normalizing...

The sound is decent, far from my best, but completely listenable and enjoyable. I was in the 4th row, so I was too close for one of those awesome recordings that basically sounds like an official live album

I have too much crap at work to do to make it to miami or the other florida shows

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We recorded this in my living room earlier this month, and I thought I would share.

Enjoy!!

All of their albums are great, but both tweedy and farrar where getting better and better as time went on.

AM is very similar to anodyne.

I am really excited for these vinyl reissues to come out, I have been wanting to get these on vinyl since I got into them 7 or 8 years ago!

It was tampa, I forgot viachicago doesnt show your city.

I got them at 10 on the dot

I remember when he shouted out to the kids there, haha

Do you have a copy of the show?

Tampa DD 8-11!!!!

I can't wait. My first wilco show was at this venue in 2005, and that was a wonderful show! I highly, highly recommend looking for that one to download, and not just because I was there. It has all the elements of a great wilco show. After 100s of boots I have collected from them, it stands very near the top.

At that show tweedy complained about the front row being too far away (there is space for a small orchestra there 15-20ft or so). when he did this, people jumped up (including me) and I ended up leaning on the stage in the center for the rest of the show. Hopefully this will happen again!

The other cool thing that happened was this girl a couple people over from me was on her cell phone during "kingpin". When the screaming section came up, tweedy took the phone from her and ended up talking to her mom on the other end! It was really really funny

they arent that rare, and there are probably a couple thousand of them. It wasnt a special release or anything, it just came out after most people had quit buying vinyl, and most of the people that still bought vinyl didnt and havent sold off their collections.

It sells regularly for $40-$80, which is pretty average for mid 90s vinyl.

I would rather see something like a 8lp/4CD set of outtakes and rarities covering more than just the YHF stuff

I have been a fan since 2004, and I live in tampa. I have seen them in 2005 (AGIB), 2006(Kicking Television), 2008(Sky Blue Sky), 2009 (wta) and 2010(Evening With). They have never played florida for the first tour from an album, but ALWAYS on the 2nd or third tour. You might have to drive to jacksonville, or to clearwater, but they have always played here. Don't worry too much about it.

I don't know why florida always gets left behind with concerts, but that is just how it is.

wta is 42 minutes

It has only come out as a double album. The first edition was pressed by sundazed, the 2nd by nonesuch.

If the running length is any longer than 22 minutes per side records lose volume drastically and become noisier. I have a couple albums that are 28 - 32 minutes on a side and they are about 1/3rd the volume of a normal 20 minute long side, and sound pretty bad. When you have to crank it up that much more to get at the same volume noise becomes a real issue.

Yankee is too long to fit well onto a single album, but too short to make a normal double lp, which are usually at least 60 minutes.

I read either an article or a book on publishing royalties (paid to the songwriter) and it mentioned wilco in it. The band members split 15% or 20% of the royalties for songs they played on, a very unusual arrangement. Usually all of the mechanical royalties would go to the songwriter, resulting in sometimes dramatic income disparity between him or her and the band.

The only way I can discuss this is by giving examples.

In my band, we mostly play my songs. There are two other guys that write, one rarely, and one somewhat often. My songs have a certain sound, and I write a lot of them, so we have plenty of material. The guy that writes a little usually writes shorter pop songs with an edge that fit in well with mine. He sings them, and so far we play two of his. The other guy writes amazing 8 minute long historical songs with stories about characters that are really touching. They are almost impossible to fit into what we do, but he knows this and is frankly not even really interested in doing his tunes. I have converted/worked out ways for us to do some of them and he likes the way we do it, so we play a few of his tunes. A band has a sound, and writers have styles. Also, the way most writers work is very fast. I write most of my songs in 30 minutes or less. The words, music and melody hit me at the same time, and I usually record a little acoustic demo of me playing the song at that point. There isnt room for major collaboration. Almost all of the songs are transformed when the rest of the guys start putting their parts on, but that doesnt qualify for a writing credit, that is just the process of being in a band and turning a 3 chord folk song into something interesting with 2 guitars, bass and drums.

In wilco, every player is creative and really great at several instruments. I am sure if you pointed at Nels and said "make up a cool guitar riff" he would play something awesome. But that doesnt mean jeff can just jump up and throw some lyrics on it and it is a song. It is weird to sing lyrics other people have written, especially if you mostly only play your own tunes, and if you usually do your writing by yourself, it is hard to add something to someone else's riffs. In my experience, if the core of a song isnt formed in a moment of inspiration, but instead by making a cool riff and trying to throw lyrics at it until it sticks, you are thinking too much and it will suck.

My point in all of this is that everyone in the band is probably contributing a lot, but it isnt a writing credit if you make up a cool part to go on a song. Songwriting is the melody, lyrics, and chord skeleton. Sprucing that up well is why you get to stay in the band!

All of their LPs are at the same high level of quality. They definitely (and thankfully) have never skimped out on the vinyl quality

The tape manufacturing plants in the US closed around 2004, but then reopened in 2008 (ish) so tape is again available, at right around $250 for 15-30 minutes, depending on the speed you are running the tape. High speed sounds more hi-fi, but has less time.

When you record you usually do a couple takes back to back, and you dont really want to stop the flow, so you can go through miles and miles of tape. The analog to digital converters have gotten so much better in the last few years that recording to good hi-res digital through vintage gear and then mixing to tape is probably the best way now.

this should make a wilco fan test that you have to pass to get tickets.

Trivia!

They can differentiate unique audience, so that number could mean 80,000 unique IP addresses, or it could just mean it was played 80,000 times.

Either way, cool!

I think tweedy likes to start his decades off with releasing a classic album...

yea it is encoded into the music I believe.

You can only hear up to 20k, but I believe cds are capable of carrying info up to something way higher, so they can put digital codes that be read at like 50khz.

I think that is how they do it, although there are ways to get around this too.

2nd point (reason I came here to post)

I can't believe some people are unhappy with some of these tunes. This record is a monster! Open mind, standing O, Dawned on me, and the other couple of songs that are getting mentioned are killer tunes!

The melody in open mind? beautiful! It is such a great, direct song. There is a place for nice folk tunes, and that one is just great.

I think she has a flat tire too.

Animals is my favorite.

I will never forget the blown away feeling I had when I first realized they put the vocals through a synth at the end of every line in Sheep to get that super long fuzzed out sustain sound. amazing!

good speakers, good speakers make all the difference.

Even with an mp3, hearing this through my 50 watt marantz into klipsch chorus II's (horn loaded 3 ways with 15" woofers) was an experience!

Cant wait to plop the LP down on my turntable

this is the record this lineup was destined to make. All the pieces fit together, it is a classic.

they should be really proud.

The band functions as an orchestra around some cool songs that will take me a long time to figure out, time I am looking forward to spending.

We dont have to compare everything to other things. This is its own record with its own sound.

In other news, when I went in my local record store, the clerk handed me the promo poster for TWL!

It will be finding a place on the wall in my guitar room shortly

I wonder will this one not leak until the last minute because there is no record label outsiders to deal with...

If it leaks it would be from someone internal, as I am assuming they don't have many employees at the label, and the few that are there would be afraid for their jobs because if there are only 15 people to look at for possible leaks it wouldn't be that hard to figure out...

Does anyone know when they will send them out to journalist for music reviews?

ryan just posted this on facebook:

New album is called "Ashes & Fire". It was produced by Glyn Johns ( rocknroll wizard & true gentleman). It has 11 songs on it. I played acoustic on all of them and sang and played live to tape. We recorded the album ALL 100 percent ANALOG ( 2" tape mixed to 1/4" ). A computer didn't touch this album. It has very few overdubs. I gave these songs the most consideration I have ever given and it is certainly the longest amount of time I've spent writing. It was made with total love. Very excited. XX October 11th is the release date.