rockinrob
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these probably wont be ticketmaster tickets. The are extra promoter's, record label, etc. So they werent going to go on sale they were left for industry people and friends, but they arent being used, so now they are going on the band's website.
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well they certainly have the capability to do live analog recording, but I bet KT was done on their protools rig.
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You must be far richer than I was at your age. Even though new LPs were 3 or 4 bucks at that time, it seemed like a whole lot to buy one and then discard it that soon. At 20 bucks a shot, a new LP is still a big investment and I have much more money now.
Then again when I was your age you couldn't sell back LPs at most stores. And then again again, I know LPs on resale aren't worth all that much.
LouieB
Student loans!!!
Im pretty irresponsible with money when it comes to music and music stuff. I also dont buy anything else. So I basically wear the same clothes until my fiancee or my mom decide that my clothes look like crap, so they get me some new ones.
Also, Ive found that since most new vinyl goes out of print, if you sell it in the whole before they announce a reprint, you make your money back or more. For instance for some reason I bought the rage against the machine live record a few years ago. I dont even really like them, but whatever. Browsing on ebay, I saw that it is going for 60+, so Im going to sell that. I paid 15 for it.
Also I dont buy a ton of new lps. mostly old used stuff. But the new music that I do like I pick up.
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I dunno...I think the death of CD is still greatly exaggerated. I am happy folks like vinyl, but I was in a record store yesterday in Evanston where they sell both and now with the market for vinyl expanding and prices rising, there are lots of CDs for sale for cheap. If you play a CD through a decent stereo system it sounds fine. Price will eventually push some folks interested in LPs out of the market. Plenty of folks were looking at and buying CDs at this store. Also some artists simply aren't going to be able to press up LPs and are going to have to continue to rely on CDs (and downloads) to get their product out.
Also I am totally amazed by how much new vinyl is already finding its way into the used bins, which can only mean that some segment of the vinyl buying population has already fallen out of love with it. All the new LPs that are selling for 20-30 bucks a disk (or more in the case of box sets; some new some reissue), that are now being sold used has to mean that some folks caught the bug and then lost it. Good for us, but not necessarily good for the future of the LP. Actually I am constantly shocked by what shows up used, both vintage and new. But then again the trade keeps indie stores in biz so that's good too.
Meanwhile those in the Chicago area should come to the CHIRP record sale in a few weeks. A super fun time and a great place to get used LPs. (And you can stop and say hello to me.)
LouieB
Ive sold records I bought new that I didnt like. Im about to sell a couple to fund the preorder for the wilco box
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I only buy vinyl. I am 23, and when I was 16 I moved to tampa, which actually has several cool record stores. I started buying a bunch of used vinyl, got hooked, then started buying a bunch of new vinyl and rebuying things I had on cd on vinyl, and now I am 100% vinyl. I find I dont really like listening to stuff on mp3 at all cause it doesnt sound as good, so my ipod is pretty much only for fresh air podcasts and bootlegs. I have a turntable in my room, my living room, at my girlfriends and at my parents place, so that is my main way of listening to music. I think vinyl is absolutely the best, and I hope the press new music until well after I quit caring about new music!
And also at this point, my main vinyl setup kicks my digital setup so bad, it is kind of pointless to buy stuff on digital.
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A ghost is born tour companion here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FUU7KL8B
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cinco!
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A good many of the recordings -- especially SBDs -- are recorded at 24 bit.
Kicking television was not a soundboard recording. It was a multitrack parallel feed off of the board into (most likely as it is the professional standard) a pro tools HD rig. They might have even done it analog since they are so into analog, but I doubt it because that is such a pain. it is hard to argue with being able to run parallel lines into an HD rig and a mac computer and recording it at 24 bit 192k.
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1) I have a much better vinyl setup than I do digital and I prefer to do all of my serious listening there. I usually only listen to boots and non vinyl stuff in my car.
2) I can almost guarantee you that this was recorded at 24 bit, 192k on protools. a cd is 16 bit 48k at best. There is significantly more information available, and from what I have heard from people with good ears, 24 bit 192k sounds as good as analog, only minus the positive degradation tape provides (warmth, distortion). If they run a 1/4 inch two track master for vinyl off of pro tools at 24 bit 192k, the warmth is back, and it should be 99% there. As wilco is made up from analog junkies, I am assuming this is what they have done.
The questionable improvement of vinyl comes from when 16 bit 48k masters are used. Unfortunately, that does happen sometimes, but I doubt in this case as pro tools HD is 24 bit 192k.
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mermaid avenue was made from woody guthrie manuscripts. He never recorded the songs and no one remembered how they went, so wilco and billy bragg made music to fit them.
Obviously, this land is your land is well known and was recorded. The whole point of the record was to save lost songs.
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CCCCCCOOOOOOOOOLLLLLL!!!!!!
This has a great track listing. I for one cannot wait to go into debt for this!
I will be out of school soon though, so it is okay
Also, the MMJ one was $35, but it had cheaper feeling vinyl. Wilco's vinyl is always done at the best pressing plants and with great packaging. If they are selling it for $17.50 including shipping per record, they arent just pocketing the extra $35 for the set. We will be getting a superior audiophile product, which some of us could care less about, but I think alot of vinyl fans are probably picky. I would be pissed if a cheaply done $35 box set had a bunch of problems, so I can feel good about a $70 one that will be done the right way.
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just found this article http://www.reinventretail.com/2009/04/independents%E2%80%99-day-how-indie-retail-has-adapted-to-changing-times/
It appears this has been in the works for a year!
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there is a freaking delicious italian place at the light after ruth eckerd, take a left (going west) and it is a few blocks down that road on the left. It is a little family place and I cant recall the name of it. It is really good though.
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Im already broke and in debt so what is $70 more!
This sounds awesome and I am real excited about it.
I would be really super duper extra excited if this was 40 bucks though.
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He is a local writer for the newspaper. To call him a moron is being nice. He basically likes top 40 stuff, but he writes about everything that comes through, 95% of the time resulting in him sounding like an idiot.
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you just have to learn how to put the record store assholes in their place
Thankfully my record stores are mostly full of nice people.
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I think it really ruined that show. That is one of the worst gigs ive heard from wilco. I dont know if it was bad memories but it felt like they were distracted by the quarreling. I know I was
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they have been recording so im assuming it is an album tour deal. I cant remember where I saw this, but I definitely did. It was on a forum somewhere and it was one of the engineers or the producer if I remember correctly. It was the heartbreakers.
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john stirratt's bass part
I was joking.
Get it?
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you miss 100% of the shots you dont take.
I say that after every joke I tell that fails.
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Handshake Drugs---Paul playing John's wonderful bassline...oh baby
I thought Paul did play bass on that?
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Misunderstood would be cool.
I can totally hear lennon screaming NOTHING!
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I didnt mean it like blues isnt music.
I meant that sean's stuff covers alot of ground, but he is labeled blues. He plays a little bit of everything.
I think alot of people that think they dont like blues would like his stuff alot, but because he is labeled as "blues" that might turn some people off because of what that term has been stereotyped into being.
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ruth eckerd hall is a concert hall, and kind of bowl shaped. More of an orchestra type of place
It has phenomenal sound, and even at the very back row, you have great visibility and feel as though the band is closer than they are.
I really like to sit and take it all in at shows. I am not the average music fan in that I usually dont get hammered, I DO NOT talk at all during the show and I basically sit/stand in a hypnotized daze while staring at the stage trying to soak in as much as possible while I am in the presence of artists I admire greatly. I freakin love ruth eckerd hall because it is conducive to this type of enjoyment.
For wilco, I usually try to do the above as much as possible, but during the rockers I like to stand.
I think some people say "Its a rock concert, stand up sissy!" but this is a WILCO show. Its not like we are seeing lynyrd skynyrd and doing beer bongs in the parking lot (most of us at least). Wilco Is a band I want to LISTEN to.
Stand up for the rockers and have fun, but I want to sit down and let the waves of beautiful noise splash over me during "Via chicago".
and hopefully "broken arrow!!!" (if you are listening guys, please????!!!!)
Kicking Television vinyl box set?
in Just A Fan
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I hadn't seen the blurb about the 24 track. 24 tracks on 2" tape is the standard professional analog format, so this means it probably is an analog recording. It isnt super crazy expensive to record to tape. Each tape cost about 200 bucks and will record for 15 minutes if it is at 30ips, or 30 minutes if it is at 15ips. They would have two machines hooked up in parallel, and when one tape is about to run out, they start the other one. Then you have to edit them together. They probably buy bulk tape so it is probably cheaper than that.
A mobile studio is just a big moving truck with a recording studio in the back. The put it as close to the venue as they can (back alleyway, etc) and run a big cable called a snake out to it. The process is very similar between analog and digital, but for digital it all just runs into the converters and into a computer. They can hit record and just let it go.