fickerson

i joined shortly after the val air ballroom show in september '03 - i also found the board from the timeline site. gogo was kind enough to send me a copy of that show, and thus began my illustrious VC career.

last night at a birthday party in queens, mr. fick and me.

I figured they must be hiding somewhere - I guess they are out of the storyline for now. Although, several of them were killed off last season - if I recall correctly.

the actor who plays richard is on another show right now (cane), so we probably won't see them for a while.

OMG the ending was insane, im kinda shocked at your feelings here, to each his own, but between locke and the grenade and the tremendous ending, I liked it, it isnt one of the best ever though, I am curious if lost will finally address the entire claire's baby is the evil child/crazy psychic story line lol

yeah, i didn't hate it - just too much kate/sawyer crap; the love story/triangle is wearing impossibly thin for me. yawn city.

well, the twist was lost on me as i originally thought she said "eric" at the end.

decent 'sode, not my favorite. weakest of the season so far.

fronkster

wow, that's someone i haven't thought about in forever. anyone know what he's up to these days?

let's see:

woman at the bar

el ron huxtable

stardog

samorama

robotboy

charli

sooz

skyflynn and mrs. skyflynn

brianne

gogo

st. genevieve

reni

jorge

tweedy's gurl

louieb

the dude

deepseacatfish

derek phillips

imdwalrus

jenbobblehead

caliber

ron cey

solace

srmt

pneyu

sandoz

laminated kat

orson welles

alison the wilca & kris

ckc

i know there are more, especially some of the old time VCers, but i was pretty drunk for a lot of these meetings so that's all i've got right now.

I'm still not sure it was a clue about the time difference though. If Jack flew to Sydney to claim his father and then the plane crashed on the way back, that pretty much ends up at 100 days assuming he watched a game in the day or two before he left for Sydney. You know? Also, the freighter people probably knew when the plane crashed/went missing, since it was world news when the wreckage was found. So saying "100 days" wouldn't have seemed that odd.

 

Do you think it's that time moves slower, or there's some sort of 31 minute Bermuda triangle-esque deal surrounding the island?

yeah, i mean like 100 days on the island = a year or something off the island. the 31 minute rocket thing could be proportional to time/space. this would explain why richard hasn't aged, or how walt has aged so much off the island (obviously, he's going through puberty, but this is a good explanation for the show). also, the world at large knew when the plane went missing, but we have no idea when the wreckage was found, or when exactly the freighters' flashbacks took place. i think that when jack made that comment, it was meant to be noticed by frank (as in, "wait a minute, how long do YOU think you've been on this island?"), but they were interrupted.

It made sense, because the episode was day 94 on the island. And didn't this bit of dialog happen before Daniel did his experiment? I was mostly just remarking on it feeling awkward.

yeah, definitely. it was interesting that this was the first time they'd mentioned to the freighter people how long (they thought) they've been there, and it was interrupted with daniel's experiment.

kevin - next week's episode is supposed to have a pretty big twist, i think.

I also enjoy the Battlestar Galactica references. On tonight's Lost, I was annoyed by the Red Sox/Yankee banter between Jack and the pilot. It felt forced and lacked the emotional weight of when Jack was shown the Series. "I can't believe it's been 100 days since I've seen a game."

i'm pretty sure that line was thrown in there as a clue that time moves slower on the island than it does for the rest of the world. and frank could/would have thought about it more had they not been interrupted right after jack said that.

It could not possibly have taken you that long to complete your education.

i said like!

Yea..in 30 years none of this will matter....enjoy college while you are there....

 

LouieB

i adopted that attitude, and i ended up flunking out. i eventually graduated, but it took me like 4028 years.

It's not time travel, it's alternate universes merging, I think. They are flashes sideways, not forward/back.

i get that, but if we're trying to equate miles being up in the kid's room, ghosthustling, with the exact moment desmond turned the failsafe key, which therefore set up the alternate universes to merge/bleed/whatever, then miles wouldn't have already heard on the radio that flight 815 had been found. it makes sense in my head, dammit!

Ok. End of S2, the losties have been on the island for nearly 2 months. This is also when Desmond triggers the failsafe. Now, we know that Desmond (according to the old lady in his flashbacks) is SUPPOSED to push the button, he is never meant to hit the failsafe. Did triggering the failsafe actually cause a "bleeding" effect from another reality?

 

So now for the evidence:

 

1: Daniel Farraday is crying, but does not know why when they find the wreckage of flight 815. Could it be that in the alternate universe he is actually ON the plane, and it wrecks?

 

2: The pilot of the boaties recognizes that the captain underwater is NOT who they think it is, because he isnt' wearing a wedding ring. He also notes that he was supposed to be the pilot. In the alternate reality...he IS the pilot. This is his own dead body he is looking at.

 

3: The scenes with the boaties are wrong. Everyone has assumed that they are flash forwards/flashbacks. But if that's the case, why give us the the name of where they are at. This has never happened before. The reason it's done here is because the scenes aren't flashbacks OR forwards. They are present time of when S2 ended. I guess that TECHNICALLY makes them flashbacks, but still of a different nature.

 

4: When Miles is at the old lady's home, to talk to her dead grandson, they focus on the pictures on the wall. Twice. At first I thought it was so we could recognize the person in the photos. Upon rewinding, I've found it to be so that we notice the change in frames. Miles goes upstairs, and when he comes back down, the pictures are in different frames. What happened in those five minutes he went upstairs? The "bleeding" effect I was talking about. Why then? Because that was the moment Desmond broke time.

 

Where I'm going with this:

 

Roughly 2 months after 815 is declared "lost", Desmond triggers the failsafe on Island. This creates some sort of temporal rift, allowing two realities to "bleed" into one another. In one reality, 815 crashes onto the island, and there are survivors. In the other, 815 crashes into the ocean, and all die. In one, Farraday AND the pilot are on 815. In the other, the Island still brings them, just by other means.

 

Here see for yourself:

 

 

 

 

 

You could say it's a production error but the camera deliberately pans over to the photo. Sounds pretty convincing but at this point still who knows? Awesome that the writer's strike ended, I'm sure a lot of people are happy about that.

The only problem with this theory is that the "alternate reality" of the plane being discovered in the trench would had to have happened before desmond turned the failsafe key (when miles is up in the kid's room), because miles is listening to reports on the radio of the plane being found as he pulls up to the lady's house.

unless it's saying that the plane crashing in the ocean is the real reality and the plane crashing on the island is the alternate reality, but that wouldn't explain how the plane crashed on the island before desmond turned the key, although it could be some sort of looped reality quantam leap in reverse (even though what we saw wasn't supposed to happen, it did because of what he did in the future).

my head hurts.

this is incredibly sad. i was just thinking of nat last night, while watching the decemberists' dvd.

she was one of the kindest people i've ever had the pleasure to meet from here.

i'm heading out of Penn Station at 7:30 pm which is the last train north for the night so i can't miss it, and i am at the hospital until almost 6... plus i'm not terribly mobile.

screw the train and take the chinatown bus - you can leave as late as you want!

seriously though, is there anything i can do for you or help you with while you're here? i'll be in the city tomorrow afternoon for a job interview, let me know.

i'm going to be in NY when tomorrow's game starts. I'm not sure i'll be able to find a place to watch it before my train.

what time is your train and what station? the bar i'm going to will be showing the red sox game, but it's in the east village.

But that's like 6 channels, maybe 7 tops. If Sir Stewart doesn't have cable, then how does he watch NESN? I'm seriously baffled here.

 

P.S. When I lived in Boston (a long time ago, mind you) cable was not an option in the Back Bay area. Or at least that was BU's party line. Anyway, I did the non-cable thing for 4 years and it pretty much blew.

i purchased a month of mlb.tv earlier in the summer, and never re-subscribed but kept getting it for free. which is good, because there's no way i would have paid more money for that shitty service.

so for the playoffs, i guess i'll be braving the big city and staying up late in bars, or listening to the games if they're on espn radio.

sopcast is only available for windows? what are we, living in the dark ages?

playoff games on TBS + two games at 10 PM ET = really annoying to not have cable.

thanks for that info, graham.

they're getting swept this weekend.

you were saying...?

go cubs go

they're getting swept this weekend.

Go Brewers!

i lived in madison from '99 until this summer; feel free to PM me with any questions. also, brianne and skyflynn can probably help you out, they still live there. it's a great place, good luck!

Dolemite In Hell

oh my.

i'd be thrilled to upgrade it sometime soon; say, october...