Good Old Neon

It does not come from religion, however, the vocal, political majority pushing for the abolition of abortion is religious in nature. Which is why I added

Fair enough. My point goes back to the Wallace quote I originally led off with.

If you had to make the choice between saving a comatose person, and a perfectly functional capable person

Maybe you

It is was an analogy

I have tremendous respect and am forever in awe of life

I see what you mean. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGrltT54OsA...ted&search= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PUQATCcQ0A...ted&search= This last one is especially telling - listen to what Pastor Ted has to say at the end. The former head of the evangelical movement seems to contradict what you have stated above.

I think they call that Bush-speak

Beltmann

"The euphemisms for an aborted fetus--"the product of conception" and "clump of cells"--are what George Orwell might have called newspeak." Might I add Bush's "Culture of Life" to that list as well?

I don't see any of the Pro-lifers jumping to address this point of his post: "Hentoff also takes pro-lifers to task for being inconsistent, quoting Barney Frank: "Those who oppose abortion are pro-life only up to the moment of birth." Hentoff feels that to be pro-life, one requires a "consistent ethic of life. They ought to actively oppose capital punishment, preparations for war, and the life-diminishing poverty associated with" certain government policies. Hmmm. Discuss." And I don't see you getting all over their backs for not doing so - hmmm..... If you insist that I answer it - I

Pennisi, Elizabeth. (1998). "Cloned Mice Provide Company for Dolly."Science. 281(5376): 495-496. Abstract: Researchers at John A. Burns School of Medicine at the University of Hawaii in Honolulu have succeeded in replicating the cloning of an animal from adult cells-- the same process that produced the cloned sheep "Dolly" and made international headlines in 1997. The Hawaii research team reports the cloning of 50 mice so far. Other researchers who have analyzed Dolly's DNA have confirmed that she is indeed a clone of the ewe whose cellular material was used in the experiment. In the Hawaiian

You're exactly right - time to make dinner. I'll respond tomorrow - now, I ask that you go back and respond to each and every point I have attempted to make - for the sake of fairness. If I'm not mistaken - Beltmann's question was offered up for discussion by all - why must I answer each and every post?

Well then I ask

Peter Singer: "Scientists have shown, in many different species, including monkeys, that it is possible to clone an animal by taking the nucleus of an ordinary cell, and implanting it in an egg from which the nucleus has been removed. There is no biological reason to suppose that this would not work for human beings. This means that billions of our cells have the potential to become an actual person. Yet no one thinks that we have an obligation to "save" all these cells and turn them into people."

And only the person considering abortion can consider what it means to them

Potential people - until then - a clump of cells. Can my wife and I claim our frozen, fertilized embryos as dependents? Is it murder to dispose of fertilized embryos?

Because in the vast majority of cases

Agreed - my apologies.

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The OP posed a moral dilemma