dtram

Have you tried using headphones and listening to it when you're in a quiet mood? Sounds good!

Tried everything. I hate disliking songs by bands I love but i guess it's ineveitable that there are some that don't hit you.

Cars and Magazine are so much different than the tone of YHF that they would stick out to me, thus ruining the album. It took me a long time to warm up to Radio Cure, but even still I didn't want to omit it or replace it because it's such a huge part of that album's sound.

 

I kind of like it when some bands' best songs are b-sides.

You're right, it changes it a ton, magazine much more than cars though, cars really fits well I think. I also like having both of these songs on an album since I find I listen to b-side compilations much less frequently. I understand why Magazine didn't make the cut but I'll never understand leaving Cars off. Maybe it was a Jeff/Jay thing, who knows. Since Jay put it on a solo record, that kind of tells me that it probably is more his tune than Jeff's

I just feel like Radio Cure sucks the life out of the first half to the point where it ruins it for me. I know i'm in the minority here with that song but hey, that's whats great about CD burners. For those interested, my order is:

IATTBYH

Kamera

Magazine

War on War

Cars

Etc.....

Can you imagine writing a song like "Cars" and then pretty much doing nothing with it? Unbelievable.

It's funny, I feel the exact same way. When non wilco fans ask me what their best album is, I have to qualify the answer by saying, if you take my version of YHF which deletes Radio Cure and adds Cars and Magazine, then imo YHF is their best and in the running for all time classic status. Otherwise, I tell them Being There is the best "released" album.

Yes, I dislike Radio Cure that much.

I always feel that the people who don't like Jay Bennett in one form or another never saw him play live with Wilco. I did see Jay play with Wilco before and those shows were my favorite ones. Is there anyone who saw Wilco with Jay who were glad he left?

No. As a matter of fact I was so bummed that he was kicked out that i lost interest in the band for the few years after (I've been fortunate to have seen them tour every record but Mermaid ave 1 and was lucky enough to have had dinner with the band, minus Jeff, on the '99 tour.) To follow up on what others have said, Wilco shows 1995-2000 were fun, the first tour after he left was very boring to me, too serious and having loved the band with Jay, those shows were very lacking to me.

Now with the new lineup with Nels and Pat, I would say that this incarnation live is better and tighter. Really reminds me of The Band. I think the residency shows have in a way allowed this incarnation to make the catalog stuff their own and has really opened up what they play live and that makes it really interesting, at least to me.

However, record wise, BT, ST, YHF plus the Mermaid Ave's are a lot better records than the last 2. That's not to say I don't like the last 2, i do, a lot. But they are not in the same league, not exciting in the same way that the others were. What was the primary change? No Jay.

I am really looking forward to this new record though, I think this lineup has a "classic" Wilco record in them.

As a postscript, I'm not one of those, Jay is God types. I have 2 of his solo records and his voice just can't carry a record, to me. I think his best use is as a collaborator, to help color other peoples ideas.

Dave

[ I saw my first Wilco show there many moons ago. Had to be dragged there by a friend.

http://wilcobase.com/event.php?event_key=248

Next time I went willingly!

That is so funny you say that. I wasn't dragged but I was not familiar with Wilco at all when a buddy invited me to that show. Haven't missed a tour since.

Dave

I think Corduroy Cutoff Girl would make 9. And for my money, the version of Poor Places on the original demos is so different as to make it number 10.

Dave

Sorry

I think Corduroy Cutoff Girl would make 9. And for my money, the version of Poor Places on the original demos is so different as to make it number 10.

Dave

Thanks, I'll give that a shot. Took your advice and pulled down the Zep reunion show. Hopefully that helps.

Gracias, much appreciated.

Guys, thanks for very much for everything you do with the archive and seeding. Long time Wilco fan here, seen them on pretty much every tour since AM but the residency shows have gotten me reinvigorated.

I'm new to BT world and downloaded a bunch of shows from e-tree and Dime. The shows I've downloaded on Dime tend be less popular than what I'm getting at e-tree and my Dime ratio sucks. Any ideas how I can point my e-tree seeds to Dime as well to get that ratio up?

Also, I'm a little flumoxed about this shn thing as well. I have Winamp and when I try to add the shn files, nothing happens.

BTW, those YHF "Engineers Demos" are a revalation. Fill in the gap between the original demos and the final product nicely.

I think which drummers played on which demos was discussed further down in the thread and it sounds to me like Ken on the orignal demos and Glenn on the engineers demos.

Any help to my above questions is greatly appreciated.

Dave