deepseacatfish

Whoa missed this one! Happy birthday!

I've had the album for a while now, and despite many listens it's just something I just don't love as much as many people seem to. I like it alright, but it's not an album that is mindblowing for me. Count me in as "somewhere in between."

IT'S A CAMEL WITH A HAT ON NEXT TO A PARTY CAKE!

Awesome, I love it. Funny, unpretentious, just plain odd!

I really like all the versions of Not For the Season/Laminated Cat. It's one of my favorite Wilco songs period.

I can't think of anything I was hoping for less from this album.

Yeah, me too!

This review seems to confirm my expectations that this album while maybe not groundbreaking will be full of more striking material than SBS, and will be produced with a little more complexity and studio work that I find to be particularly rewarding in Wilco albums. Yay!

Sounds excellent! "Whisper Bees" is definitely a fitting title for your soft, subtle music.

Haven't bought from them before but the prices are probably due to the fact that the items are out of print and being sold from multiple stores (like Amazon marketplace or Ebay).

On the subject of radio and live performances...since it seems many people are concerned about this...

Both of those are handled by the 3 main songwriting associations: BMI, ASCAP, and SESAC. If I remember right, Jay as well as Jeff are on BMI. Basically venues, radio stations, and television programs pay for a "license" to use BMI's song catalog. The venues then produce a list (recorded over random periods of time) of the songs they played and the royalties are distributed to the songwriters (ie. Jay/Jeff if they are listed on the song) based on that. Since it's all handled through song writing credits...and not through the band performing Jay should be getting his fair shake from BMI...with Jeff having nothing to do with it.

On the other hand, record sales and movie licensing would all fall under the band's management and so there could be a legitimate claim of unpaid royalties there as well as questions regarding the documentary.

There's no way for me to know what the heck happened or why they couldn't agree to put this matter behind them privately, but I am sad to see that it has come to this. I say that without any knowledge of whether Jeff/Wilco are right or Jay is right. My guess is that, like most things in life, they are both a little right and both a little wrong.

 

In the grand scheme of lawsuits and headaches, $50,000 is not that much money. So this may be about principle. But I am going to avoid speculating.

Yes.

Really?

Yes, really.

"Incinerate" is definitely classic SY, but I think "Rats" might be my favorite Rather Ripped track.

Edit: One disc = 11 tracks.

Side A

1. Misunderstood

2. What's the World Got in Store

3. Outta Site Outta Mind

4. Monday

5. Dreamer in My Dreams

Side B

6. Hotel Arizona

7. Far Far Away

8. Red-Eyed and Blue

9. I Got You

10. The Lonely One

11. Sunken Treasure

I think you should get most of their records ...

Yes.

I use virb for my music: See here! which I find to be a lot less annoying in terms of clutter, advertising, etc. as compared to Myspace. I used to use Myspace, but just found it to be annoying and filled with spam and other junk. I'll go there if I can't hear a new track elsewhere or can't find tour dates listed other places...but I greatly prefer artists who have their own pages if only because that's what I'm looking to see...not all the extra (junk) content.

P-90s would probably look and sound good in that!

Thanks, definitely an interesting link.

Daydream Nation is really excellent, and I'd highly recommend it, I also really like Murray Street and Sonic Nurse (two of their more recent albums) and those might actually be more easily accessible.

Most "classic" albums, I can get even if I don't find them to be my favorites or particularly compelling. Even something like Trout Mask Replica I get...but I don't listen to repeatedly because it's just not that kind of album for me.

I've yet to find a classic album that I just can't listen to, or see why it might be regarded as influential.

Yeah this is just way to expensive to make it worth my while. The Pixies are way cool, but not $175 cool for albums I mostly have and other assorted ephemera.

one of its main points was that corporate marketing was going to stealthily co-opt fashion and lifestyles of the hip in order to move product.

Always happens with any fashion/art movement! (much as I cringe at calling hipster styles a "movement")

Those kick ass Isadorah.

Laminated Cat/Not for the Season tends to be my go-to song.

FYI, the youtube videos have been removed. But yeah, Marquee Moon is totally a sweet album, maybe not my favorite guitar album (I'd probably have to pick one of Sonic Youth's for that) but it's definitely way up there. The songs are both raw and punky while being complex at the same time. Not a combination that often happens.

I would consider them a Chicago band.

Have an excellent one!