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The following tab is lifted off of Ultimate Guitar - seems to be more proper than my interpretation, though I have yet to try it out.

http://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/w/wilco/random_name_generator_tab.htm

I was right about the chords (you were right about the stars) - seems that the riff isn't up on the 7th fret though.

In the video from the Pitchfork show, Nels seems to be playing all around the fretboard, so just move the riff from that tab up a few octaves along the neck, I guess. For the lead, that is.

This tab is also missing the "sonic breakdown" part of hte song that they do during the solo, sort of. I think Jeff is just playing the chords but in different voicing and then wailing away at the strings.

You can decode to WAV files and then burn those files to a cd.

How do WAV files compare to MP3 though? Better? I ended up just making a Spotify playlist of the show I DL'd (converted to MP3) since that's easier to transport than a burned CD.

Nowadays most of the vinyl reissues come with CDs anyway. I've got the Wilco discog on CD - because I bought it on Vinyl. I had a few of the CDs already that I had picked up at record stores for a few bucks etc, but gave those away to friends since the ones they send with the record come in a little CD envelope, slimmer than a normal CD case so you can fit more in the center console.

Semi-related, I burned a CD the other day for the first time in who knows how long, it was a Wilco live show, but my car's CD player can't read FLACs so it was a wasted endeavor.

Great listen, I can listen to Jeff talk all day.

Wilco (the podcast)

I've gotten Wilco for fair prices. But I will say that for some reason, depending on the store, Dylan on vinyl can be expensive. At Euclid Records at Solid Sound they had a lot of cool Dylan, lots of bootlegs too, and there the prices were pretty fair. It's mostly limited to his bigger records, but I've seen some huge markups on Blonde on Blonde. I got BOTT from Euclid, think I paid 20-25.

I have long disliked guitarists that "shred" too much; fill the measures with flurries of fast notes.  I've realized through enjoying Nels, the reason I dislike that sound usually is not necessarily because it's fast leads, but because guitarists in the rock category tend to approach those flurries with the same patterns, scales, and phrasing.  If you slow it down, they're often playing very similar things.  That's what makes people call it "wanky", very familiar patterns.

 

Nels opens up his fret board and his fast picking to express so many more musical ideas.  His extensive jazz and avant-garde explorations have given him a really broad palette, and he seems to really tap into the energy of "the now" as an improviser.  This is all said without even mentioning his creativity as a sculptor of tones, textures and noise.

The "Impossible Germany" solo is good evidence of this - there are certain measures where he only hits 1 or 2 notes, plus or minus a hammer-on.

And as you say, he totally avoids guitar cliches like "boxing" etc - he's a unique guitarist, and my favorite.

Irving Plaza show is on Youtube for those who are interested. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayBigPLuXAk

IDK - I got most of the discography on Amazon for around 25 dollars per - from Amazon so free shipping for prime. Did pay 40 dollars for Being There at a record shop - first edition.

If you have any questions about the price, on the back of my copy of Being There they left an email address - wilcobaby@aol.com

Don't forget about the So Out Tune streaming site --- great site, esp. while at work.

 

http://sooutoftune.org/

Using it now. Such an amazing and convenient site. It went down for a week or so around SS and I got really scared - but it's back!

It was probably Dime a Dozen or The Traders' Den.

Yeah, I am thinking of Dime a Dozen.

It's on one of the JHamm dvds. You might also find it on Youtube or Daily Motion.

I have this one on my external HD - depending on size I can dropbox it. Though I believe I got it on Etree - some of the JHamm stuff is up there, but not all of it is seeded.

Edit: - awesome - now I have a bunch of shows to listen to today during work (though there's a good amount just in this thread, haven't even looked at the older ones, so doubt I will get through too many today)

Funny you should say that. As I was waiting in line, a guy with a Premier Concerts laminate noticed my Solid Sound shirt and said there's a good chance Wilco will be playing there in February.

I also would have thought it was too small a venue, but it's a great sounding room & probably not a whole lot smaller the The Capitol in Port Chester. Multiple nights, maybe? A guy can dream.

Either way, it looks like they're planning an east coast leg for early 2016.

By the way, thanks all for your input regarding G.o.t.V.

Interesting. I hope they come down to FL, again. I was a bit spoiled and got to see most of the FL shows, but I've not seen Star Wars live! If they come to Tallahassee at around the same time it would be amazing, since I'll be graduating around then. That would be a really good way to end my schooling.

I'm not picky though, I'll just take some FL shows.

Pitchfork is a staff aggregate so we're seeing a negotiated score with a designated writer who might have a differing opinion. If I remember correctly, it was similar for The Whole Love in terms of score vs written review.

 

Agreed.

 

I wouldn't call SBS the most accessible, instead I would point out that if you fell in love with a certain aspect of Wilco early and then had to transition through 5 or less albums of differing approaches and styles, SBS could just be the breaking point. I started on SBS with no preconception on what Wilco was or should sound like and I wore that record down and then picked up YHF once and never listened to it again for a month because of how shocked I was at the difference. Those two records and their contrast actually started my regimen of listening to a new record as often as possible for about two to three weeks before making an opinion. 

 

You're not a curmudgeon, you just have a lot of Wilco-related baggage that makes you compare it to what comes before subconsciously or not.

SBS was also how I was introduced to Wilco - not long after I saw i am trying to break your heart. Can't recall if I listened to YHF before or after. Probably I had heard IATBYH (the song) and maybe a few others, like Jesus, before seeing the film but it was VERY soon after I started listening to Wilco.

You make a good point though, although the friend who introduced me to Wilco thinks SBS is their best (or at least his favorite) - and this was around the time WTA came out.

You'll need the whole date. You can look it up at Wilcobase.

 

Those of you wondering about more recent shows - the shows will be up there the next time there is an update.

Pretty sure it's 6/30/03 - Sonic Youth played that show too. 6/29 and 7/2 dates (presumably the ones before and after) seem to be on there though.

Washington D.C. 2003 - I hope that you have health insurance because your face will be melted off from the 13 minute version of Laminated Cat where Tweedy & Jim O'Rourke shred.

 

It also features an early version of At Least That's What You Said and the funky version of Muzzle Of Bees. Sunken Treasure is pretty killer too!

Going to check this one out ASAP, thanks!

Edit: Actually, mind pointing me in the direction of this one? Can't find it on owl and bear

2001-2003 is a really interesting period especially after Jay is fired. Wilco are sort of "stripped down" - and Jeff does much of the heavy guitar lifting, as he does on a ghost is born.

I also like the SBS era just because many of the songs are really good live and it was the first times they played them. Right now actually is my favorite period in live Wilco, I think these are the best their shows have been, though I have only been a fan since 2009 so I never attended shows before then.
 

I also really like the Being There tour period, late '90s is very interesting period in general. Also as early as 1999 you start hearing early versions of YHF stuff, which is neat. The same goes with '97 and Summerteeth.

Early early Wilco is interesting but they would do lots of UT (which I love, but gets old compared to other periods in Wilco live shows) and sometimes even Jeff solo for a bit - again which I love but which takes a bit away from those shows compared to other eras.

Finally listened to the new Jason Isbell album (Star Wars overshadowed it for me) - WOW! What a great record! I had been indifferent to Jason Isbell before, mostly out of ignorance to much of his work, but this album is really good. It's been a great summer for music,

To save others who are interested a few minutes, I've pasted Brian Henneman's two most telling posts from the Farrar board. Link is below.

 

"Hello friends,

TRUST ME. The Wilco book does NOT paint the picture accurately. I love Jeff, I love Jay, I was there in the early days.

I didn't see any outright LIES, but, I did, swiftly, catch the fact that it is a "spun" telling of the tale.

I did see some inaccurate information.

Jeff is a great talent. Jay is a great talent.

Neither one is "better" than the other. They're just different.

Don't buy into the "character assasination" of Jay, that seems to flow through the book.

My personal evaluation, as a guy who was there, is this: consider the "vibe" painted, in the Uncle Tupelo, through A.M. chapters, as being about 50% accurate. The other 50% is slanted in Jeff's favor, but hey, it's a WILCO book!

I have no idea what the accuracy rate of the Wilco, post A.M. chapters are, I wasn't there, and that's too bad, 'cause I really wanted to know what happened, after I left.

Judging by the part I DID know, and how the story was told, I'm afraid I'll never know the true story.

The inaccuracies, and "slant", in the early chapters, actually made me lose interest in the upcoming parts, which were the ones I was most looking forward to.

Think of the book, as a Wilco story, written from the perspective of a guy, who knows, and, REALLY admires Jeff Tweedy, and, who respects, but, doesn't really know Jay at all.

From The Horse's Mouth,

Brian Henneman"

 

"Let me set this, somewhat, straight.

The Wilco book, is NOT fiction, by any means. I think Greg Kot did the best he could, with what he had.

The inaccuracies, in the chapters I knew about, are trivial, and, meaningless to the story. I can't comment on the later chapters, 'cause I wasn't there.

There DOES seem to be a "Jay bashing" taking place in the story though, which I found unenjoyable.

I'd have rather had it be ALL "pro-Jeff", and, have no Jay in it at all.

It looks, to me, like Jeff was made out to be a bit more "cool", and "heroic" than he really was, and Jay was made out to be some kind of oppressive "bad guy", which, really, isn't exactly true.

What I don't like, is the fact that Jay was not given the chance to tell his side of the story (not that he'd really WANT to, in a Wilco book...).

What you get, is a bunch of Jay's friends, talkin' about Wilco, and more of their quotes, than ANY of us would have ever imagined, being used, VERY discriminately, to paint a picture of Jay, as something I'm sure NONE of us ever dreamed would be included, in a Wilco book, AND in a way, that if we KNEW the context they'd be used in, we'd have made our points clearer.

I'd say Jay was about 20% of what I talked about with Greg Kot, but, about 90% of THAT was used in the book.

Jeff's not a bad guy.

Jay's not a bad guy.

Greg Kot's not a bad guy.

I can only hope that somebody would "favor" me, the same way, as Greg did Jeff, in a Bottle Rockets book.

I'd also hope they wouldn't "tear down" people I've worked with along the way.

I'm not down with the "Negative Jay" vibe, not when painted by soundbytes, from second-hand stories.

Kinda gives it a "tabloid" aura...

Overall, I'd say the book gives the "essence" of what went down. I guess somebody's gonna lose, in any "break up" story.

I think Jay lost a little "harder" than he should have in this one though.

Brian"

 

Farrar board on the Wilco book

I literally spent 20 minutes searching their boards (boy, they really DO NOT like Wilco or Jeff) for Henneman's posts. Then reading random stuff he posted, then I scrolled down one MM on this thread and saw this post.....I used to be smart, but I'm not anymore. Too much Spiders/Kidsmoke I guess.

Off the top of my head, I go back onto YouTube for the following pro-shot concerts:

JBTV 1996 (featuring Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow)

2-15-1997 Irving Plaza (used for HBO Reverb)

Summer 1999 Rockpalast.

Hard Rock Live VH1 97

 

I also have on cd the Chicago 12-31-99 crazy New Year's Eve show with the Martian landing (Soundboard) Lol. And I'm almost positive that there's another from that era that was soundboard. It featured a kick ass break down in Christ For President that sounded like the riff for Money For Nothing. It looks like that one was Chattanooga on 8-28-99. It featured the roadie or someone singing Immigrant Song as the closing number. 

I have 2 of those downloaded, JHamm DVD project. Incidentally, I thought maybe JHamm who made the bootlegs was Jon Hamm. It could be, as Jon Hamm is a big Wilco fan.

Anyway, just head over to sooutoftune.org and look around by year for the late '90s era. Really interesting Wilco era that I enjoy, and not just because of the presence of Jay.

Also, in general, read this book back in February. Very good, but maybe it is time for a 2nd edition now.

Not sure what happened, but the best I could get were second balcony seats for the NOLA show. Kinda bummed.

Yeah, guess they sold out of the pre-sale allotments. I'm maybe going to that show w/ some friends but the issue there is they aren't as good at paying attention to this stuff as I am. So I am waiting to confer further with them, confirm also, and then hopefully the floor tickets will be available again when the real sale starts.

Ha, you can hear me right as "California Stars" starts yelling "I LOVE THIS SONG"

The FREE Roadcase show is from May 1st in St. Augustine, FL. It was on the login page as a download link. It wasn't emailed yet. I tried to logon to see if it listed any helpful info for potential ticket buyers for tomorrow's presales. 

 

I'm wondering if we all get the same Roadcase show. 

I got it too - I was there, that's where I met Mr. Heartbreak. An amazing show all around, and I think it shines through on the recording too. I've only listened to the acoustic encore, but, just from these few tracks seems like it's a great recording of what I know was a great show.

I got the Roadcase just now when I signed it. It's the 5/1 show from this year in St. Augustine. Coincidentally, I also got front pit seats to that show for free from the band. It was an amazing show, so, good choice for a Roadcase.

Nicely done.

Thank you!

In my opinion, my favorite song of Jeff's is Where Do I Begin how his wife is suffering cancer, I believe it is cancer.  And though it is a short song, has a lot of meaning to it. 

I was just playing that on guitar, and while I was reading the lyrics/chords thinking about that. In this sense "From where we end to where do I begin" is a really powerful and sad line - the whole song is probably one of my favorite "love" songs, at least sad ones.

Man, too bad Nels isn't coming that close to FL. Or even GA. We get pretty lucky with Wilco shows each tour but the side projects don't come to FL too much. Still kicking myself for not seeing the Autumn Defense in Jacksonville a few years ago.