Robby

I would love to see what Nels could do with George's Art Of Dying.

Poor Places always reminded me of A Day In The Life.

How about them reaching further back into the Beatles catalogue and cover I'll Be Back, No Reply or It's Only Love?

Actually I would love to hear Wilco cover Loose Fur's Hey Chicken

That was kind of my reaction too. When it came to tapes, the record companies didn't give a shit about sequencing at all. In fact 8 tracks were the worst with songs sometimes broken between "sides" (there were four for those of you too young to remember) so that songs were completely mixed up.

 

I can't imagine that those programming cassettes gave it any thought at all.

 

LouieB

Actually it would make a difference and this is why they would give it some thought:

Side one of Abbey Road clocks in at approximately 24 minutes 55 seconds.

Side two has a time of about 22 minutes 28 seconds.

Come Together runs 4 minutes 20 seconds.

Here Comes the Sun runs 3 minutes 5 seconds.

So switch these two songs and side one then runs 23 minutes 45 seconds and side two runs 23 minutes 41 seconds.

My original point was that record companies didn't then (and do not now) give a shit about an album's sequence.

But tell them that they can save over two minutes of tape on each cassette by changing the sequence and they'll wet themselves.

This is gonna sound naive to say, but it's just sad to me when a record company is more than willing to distort they way an artist's work is percieved in order to make more money.

The same thing happened when everyone was rushing to reissue albums onto CD's.

Every company was going on the cheap.

I remember that the CD version of the Rolling Stones' "Hot Rocks" had a completely different version of "Time Is On My Side" than was was released on vinyl.

I felt so ripped off - double CD's weren't cheap back in the '80's.

Sorry for the rant. Too many post turkey beers

Alright don't jump on me for this. Perhaps its been brought up before but I think the transition between Bull Black Nova and You and I is similar to the transition between I Want You (She's So Heavy) and Here Comes the Sun in the effect it achieves. Kind of a calm after the storm. A great sense of relief.

I think that the only problem with this theory is the the Beatles would have probably though in terms of two sides when it came to sequencing. On the record album, the first side ends with I Want You (She's So Heavy) and the second side begins with Here Comes the Sun.

As a matter of fact, my first copy of this album was in a new kinda a format emerging back then when this was released - a cassette.

On the cassette the sequence was actually changed. Here Comes the Sun was actually moved to open the album and Come Togeteher opened the second side. So in the sequence on the cassette, Come Together actually followed I Want You (She's So Heavy) - but you had to flip it over to the second side. I got used to this sequence and I remember how weird it sounded to me when I finally bought the LP and Come Together opened the album instead of Here Comes the Sun.

It also goes to show you what a record company could do to your work back then!

Your right, that does seem perfect!

Go to the Wilco Archive on The Owl & Bear site, check out the 02-19-08 show.

This sequence was performed - the recordings were an FM broadcast so it was a pretty good sound mix.

I know I’m probably going to get crucified for some of these suggestions so I’ll call this list:

"The Sublime To The Ridiculous For The Lovelorn"

Taking It All Too Hard – Genesis

Alone Tonight – Genesis

You Know What I Mean – Phil Collins

If Leaving Me is Easy – Phil Collins

It’s Too Late – Foghat

My Opening Farewell – Bonnie Raitt

Only Lie Worth Telling – Paul Westerberg

If You Could Read My Mind – Gordon Lightfoot

Operator – Jim Croce

I Almost Forgot – Matthew Sweet

Anymore – Samples

Dirty Girl – Eels

I Wish I Was Your Mother – Mott The Hoople

Hear Come Those Tears Again – Jackson Browne

Fountain of Sorrow – Jackson Browne

I Was A Fool To Care – James Taylor

Don’t Think Twice, It’s Alright – Bob Dylan

Everybody Loves A Clown – Gary Lewis & The Playboys

Driving With The Brakes On – Del Amitri

Too Much Too Soon – Green Day

Don't know if anyone has posted this yet, but my wife told me she heard Impossible Germany while walking thru Big Lots.

Big Lots?? Sheesh!

I'm not sure if anybody shares my reaction but that was at least a minor freak out to me.

02/16/05 Carol Morsani Hall at the Tampa Bay Performing Art Center, Tampa, Fl

11/02/02 Tampa Theatre, Tampa, FL

George Harrison's All Things Must Pass

I had laproscopic surgery on my knee today and while other will be outside enjoying the three day weekend, I'll be inside hepped up on Vicodin

So, based on this thread and that heard Jeff likes cross-word puzzles, I thought I might try a simple,amatuer-hand at designing a Wilco T-Shirt. Nothing fancy, but I thought this might be a great design for the non-wilco lover to purchase for their spouse. I think I will print this out on one of those iron-on paper sheets and steam it on and old shirt. Attached is a couple examples in some different fonts.

I few years ago, I was out in the garage, cleaning things up.

Stereo was on - my 28 year-old speakers mounted up in the rear corners of the garage were humming away.

I had a fight with my wife, so I was in a bad mood.

On and On and On started playing.

My father died in 1995 of cancer. My mother died in 2002 of a broken heart.

I sat down on a stool in the middle of the garage and just listened to this song.

I could see my parents speaking the words of this song to each other.

I cried like a baby.

But that's OK, the tears felt good.

Thanks, Jeff.

I saw a "making of" Funny People special on HBO the other day.

In it, they show a clip in which Seth Rogen asks a woman out of a date to a Wilco performance (I thought he said "they're playing at the Greek")

She accepts.

Seth then proceeds to make a questionable joke - "We'll go to Wilco" at which she promptly let's him know that they're now not going on the date.

He asks her if she really means that and she agrees to go with him as long as he doesn't say "We'll go to Wilco" anymore.

I'm not sure if I have that 100% correct, but it's how a remember the clip.

11/02/02: Tampa Theatre

02/16/05: Carol Morsani Hall - Tampa Bay Performing Arts Center

(sigh)

"Shane! Come back!"

I had to go back and re-read these lyrics before giving an opinion.

I would agree that the song "takes both sides" which is part of the reason it is brilliant.

It's unfortunate, but I could forsee this song being played at too many military funerals in the months to come.

The narrator attempts to make us feel proud and seems to feel noble from the pronouncements he/her makes in the song (I'll go, I'll fight, I'll die).

However, while these statements may make the narrator feel proud, many of the other things they say paint an image of a character who is quite sad.

One who feels that they can only acheive redemption, salvation and honor by going to fight and die in a war.

The narrator confuses themselves with the idea that to be patriotic is to be pious.

I beleive that he/she may be speaking to their spouse or their child.

However, it seems more likely that the narrator is speaking to a parent.

And again, they feel that the only way they can make the parent (probably a father - but that's my issue) feel proud of the narrator is to go off to war.

So the song honors a soldier at the same time has pity for a soldier because of what the soldier beleives.

I also think that the repetiveness of the song is intentional so as to be the cadence of a march.

The strangest part of this song is that my wife told me she liked it very much. For her to remark that she likes ANY Wilco song is mind blowing.

OK, that's my two cents. You may now proceed to throw tomatoes at your will.

Not to sound like a girly man, but I think they could write a whole episode (or at least a half) of True Blood around this song, So much of the lyrics could easily fit into a storyline of that show.

On a different level, that is the one thing that strikes me the most about WTA - it's marketability. I can easily see songs from this album being picked by tv shows, movies, commercials, etc.

I know Wilco sold rights to songs from SBS. I bet if they do that with this album, they could make a killing (assuming they have well written licensing contracts)

Well it is obviously an homage.

 

And, it led me to start listening to the rest of the incredible "All Things Must Pass," which I'd never really listened to before.

 

Result: George is my new favorite Beatle.

 

So, thanks Wilco. Again.

If you can find "All Things Must Pass" in a good condition, original vinyl then you are in for a real treat!

I think this was the most expensive purchase I made in 1970 at the age of 14.

There were actually 3 records that were presented in a box.

The slip covers even had original art.

There were SO MANY good songs on this album: I'd Have You Anytime, If Not For You (Bob Dylan cover), Awaiting On You All, I Dig Love, Art Of Dying, What Is Life, Beware Of Darkness... and those were just the "ear candy" songs.

The third album was called "Apple Jam" which was exactly that: 4 jams and one song quick birthday song to (I think) to John Lennon. Actually my favorite part of that third disc was a quick cut from "It's Johnny's Birthday" to "Plug Me In". Even though there are many familar riffs in these, jams like those are a lost art. I'm probably not telling most of the people on this board about anything they haven't heard before, but if you have not heard this album, find it - you will not be sorry.

The guitar riff that everyone is talking about - did George Harrison or Eric Clapton actually play this on the album?

I know Clapton played that piece on the live version of this song on the Concert For Bangaladesh album.

BTW, does anyone notice similarities between the opening chords played on the piano for this song and Nils Lofgren's "We All Sung Together"? I believe Lofgren's group was called Grin if anyone wants to look for the song.

OMG, I just looked this up on Wikipedia and discovered that the song I'm referring to is on an album whose title is the same as the name of the group! Remarkable coincidence or have I discovered an evil conspiracy?

Hey all I'm thinking of purchasing a record player sometime in the new future to play the Wilco vinyls I am planning on ordering. I'm wondering if anyone could direct me on what a solid player would be (i.e. features i should look for). Not looking for anything extreme (something $300 or less). If anyone could help I'd greatly appreciate it. Thanks!

Not for nothing, this may sound silly, and I am definitely showing my age, but I have had for over 25 years a Technics SL-DL1.

I am sure the technology has improved in the last 25 years, but I always loved it because the the tone arm is built into the lid of the turntable.

So you never had to worry about dropping the needle on the record and creating a scratch.

The arm tracked in horizontal line perpendicular to the front of the turntable - linear tracking I think is what they called it.

It was a direct drive (most back then were belt-driven) and it had a control that allowed you manually adjust the rotation speed to correct the pitch.

I just googled the name & model and see one is selling for $89. It's not mine,though! Mine still works and its probably the last one I'll ever own.

This is so true. Everybody knows only lonely girls enjoy sweet love songs. Why can't every song be a noisy dissonant rocker? This album is just too fucking eclectic. Why cant the songs on this album sound the same as each other? If I wanted variety on an album I would have bought a various artists compilation. And another thing, You Never Know is a direct rip off of My Sweet Lord. I mean a complete note-for-note copy, I cannot tell the difference and i know a lot about music.

My Sweet Lord is a rip off of He's So Fine.

and on it goes..

I'm Always In Love

I Must Be High

Poor Places

I wonder on which episode of Grey's Anatomy will they use You and I ?

This is just a thought/suggestion, but perhaps it might help.

The last time Wilco came to Tampa, Florida was 2005

It was at Carol Morasani Hall at the Tampa Bay Performing Arts Center.

As my wife was trying to buy tickets for the show, she discovered that she could buy them directly from the venue itself and get a choice preference for seating if she bought a patron/membership at the Center.

The cheapest one was an annual membership of $50.

We got our choice of seats - second row in the center!

The cost of the tickets were $25 a piece and all of this was done online in a matter of minutes.

Of course once everyone got up out of their seats to rush to the stage, it was quite easy (even for a fat old fool like me) to get right up front.

OK, so it cost me $100 for two tickets total.

But for somone who has only been to about 30 concerts in his entire life, this was the coolest thing that ever happened to me.

Unforunately, the band was about 15-20 feet away from the stage edge, but Jeff did walk up to the edge and pick up an (empty) Jack Daniels bottle the drunk kid next to us placed on the stage.

To me the nice part was that half this money went to the Center itself and not Ticketmaster.

We had the membership for a year and although we never went to another concert there, well that was our choice.

I thought it was a pretty good deal.

Probably the least expensive concert I saw was Paul Westerberg (The Replacements) in 1994 for $15 a ticket.

That was a great deal for a fantatstic show, but I thought that having part of the cost of my Wilco ticket go to a venue rather than than Ticketmasters's pockets made me feel a whole lot better about what I spent.

My only problem is that I wish these guys would get back down here!

I'm Nel's age and I worry that either I'll die or that their touring demands will eventually push him into leaving the group.

I would so much like to see him play Impossible Germany live and in person before I die..

Hope this was good advice - there are some beautiful venues out there that Wilco plays at and deserve your support - and might help you get a cheaper ticket or a better seat!

Oh man -- me too. Just popped it in my dvd player. Ashes of American Flags opens it. It's really, really, really good.

Damn! where to you guys live?

I pre-ordered mine on 3/18, and got the email that it was shipped on 4/10.

I live in Florida and still no DVD.

I know US mail is slow, but come on!

Looks like not only Wilco the group, but Wilco the DVD is slow to come to Florida (only twice to Tampa in 7 years).

13 songs? Lame. This was a great opportunity to showcase some of the back catalog and make up for the song selection on Kicking Television. They played so much great stuff in '08. And now it looks like we're going to get an hour of music and an hour of the band's musings on life on the road. Zzzz...

 

On the plus side, the footage looks terrific.

I wonder if there will be a "Deluxe 2 DVD Edition" that has extra concert footage.

There was a two DVD version with IATTBYH that had additional live footage and its not uncommon with concert DVDs.

Maybe, just maybe..

I just watched that episode last night. Thanks you really made me laugh!

I'd prefer The Rural Juror.

THIS IS BULLS*&^(T

 

 

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