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I joined my parents on August 1st this year at the local Toyota dealership. They kind of lucked out with the sales man. He was born in Africa and just came to this country a few months before. He wasn't pushy but very articulate about the car. He would give me a cookie to try as my parents looked at each Toyota. I only accepted one. I told him that I had just finished dinner, but was very thankful for one cookie. He never asked me if I was in the market for a car. As I began to ask him why he came to this country and got a job as a car salesman my parents came back with their mind made up. That was the end of our discussion. I always wondered why he was there selling cars. What motivation drove him?

Lastly, I'm thankful that we had this gentleman instead of one of those stereotypical salesman. You know, the one with more oil in their hair then the car that they're trying to sell you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaeMJ7oMf94

I think we should be hearing the other side of the story. ^

Are those guys salaried or working on commission?

I desperately wanted to see it this weekend, but we were staying in North Conway, NH, and unfortunately, the closest theater showing it is in Boston - which, wtf – I thought it received a wide release? There’s one of those gianormous, small town-sized theaters up the road a bit, in Newington, NH – but they’re not showing it either.

I know exactly the 2 places that you're talking about. Do you live in New Hampshire?

Re wide release: According to Box Office Mojo it was released in only 111 theaters. And there's no info on there for expansion. I'm thinking this may expand this year. Another part of me thinks this will be one of those films that expands if and when it gets Oscar nominations. So I expect it sometime in January or February at a moderate expansion of 1,000 theaters.

Edit: Ok, The Road had the best per screen average over the holiday weekend. It took in $13,000 per screen to bring its total to $2 million. To compare Sandra Bullock's The Blind Side took in $12,000 per screen (3,140 screens) to make $40 million. LOL Wow, what a difference. Precious had a similar thing last month and then that got a wider release slowly but surely. We'll see on this one.

It's playing in 3 theaters in all of Boston.

Possible Spoiler:

Lastly, there's one scene towards the end that had my friend and I in stitches for 5 minutes. I won't spoil anything about it, but for those that have seen it did you laugh too?

One of my favorite scenes in this movie, which i just remembered, was when Fox saw the wolf during the getaway at the end. The wolf thing was always passed off by Fox throughout the movie, then that scene happened, and it was a pretty powerful look at Fox's persona. I realize Dahl created the character, but Wes and George Clooney did a fantastic job of bringing it to life.

I LOVED this!!! I'm a big Wes Anderson fan, but not the type of fan that is always looking every day to see what he does next. I own all of his films, yet I don't watch them every year. You know?

So to come into this fresh, I was extremely surprised. I've never read the book. Same goes for Where The Wild Things Are.

While I sat and watched this with a smile on my face the whole time, I thought to myself that this has the makings of a classic. The type of movie that I think will really live on in television.

It had such a unique and real look to it that I still can't shake it off. I need to see a making of this very soon. It's obviously a breath of fresh air to see a film like this and not CGI. I imagine the children that see this will truly catch onto the look. For instance, I was watching The Wiz on Comcast On Demand the other day. This was a movie that I hadn't seen since the early 80s when I was a 5 year old. To my great surprise I knew every location in the film. It was etched in memory probably due to the use of actual sets and not CGI. If anyone understands what I mean, then that's great. LOL

A few little scenes here and there may be objectionable for a child.

Lastly, there's one scene towards the end that had my friend and I in stitches for 5 minutes. I won't spoil anything about it, but for those that have seen it did you laugh too?

I have only ever ordered cds from Amazon, since there are no longer record stores where I live. It looks like I need to learn to look elsewhere. Thanks again.

Yeah, no problem. I actually found this place by chance and not word of mouth.

They are sandwhiched between Newbury Comics and Best Buy on the major retail strip. So they have some competition from the typical mass consumer.

After hearing about the lack of a good record store, I consider myself very fortunate to have this store. Especially considering the town that's it in isn't big and isn't even a college town.

It's like a practical joke. I'm not even sure if there's any good record stores anymore around Harvard Square? If that's the case, I'd be pissed to live there and drive into f%^cking New Hampshire for one. LOL

I ordered it. Thanks for the information. I have been after that cd for a while. The other one I mentioned has a really nice book in it, this one does also. (40 some pages).

No problem. Glad I could help in some way. It's a pretty crazy store. I'm usually on the verge of a panic attack every time I go in because I'm so overwhelmed.

And I never bring a list, which I should start doing to make things easier on me.

They have a very large USED & NEW vinyl section, so if anyone is looking for anything in particular let me know at some point. I usually go once a month like I said. (Edit: Maybe even more now, since I realized that they are open to midnight every night. It's a good place to go to around that time if nothing is going on.)

There's even an "ODD" & "MISCELLANEOUS" vinyl section that is not listed by bands. So I figure one could spend an afternoon with their tongues wagging out at such oddities.

That is what I was wondering - if it is a safe site.

Oh yes it is. There's one other location in NH: Portsmouth. Then the other locations are all over Maine.

So I assume any of those locations should have that cd.

They also have vinyl on the site too.

For anyone heading to Boston or MA in general, it's a pretty easily accessible place off of Rt 93.

I always thought VC should have a You Are MYspace or You Are My Facebook section.

While I come here to chat on certain topics and read setlists and news on Wilco, I'm not sure how many people I would think to add. Or I guess a better idea would be: who.

It would seem like a plot to get people's friends list to grow.

Edit: Somewhere in there is a good joke about Larry David's idea on anonymity.

That is it. What is the deal with that site?

Do you mean in terms of believability or are you having technical issues?

I go there about once a month in Salem, NH. They are a legit "indie" record store. I haven't bought from them online before, but they were super cool putting aside the Ashes DVD & You Never Know Vinyl Single.

I can vouch for them if that's what you mean. If not, I'll cut off my left thumb.

Hey Analogman,

Check this out:

Is this what you're looking for?

Fleetwood Mac via Bull Moose Records

Let me know if that's the one.

Edit: And for anyone else they are running a Black Friday deal. $5.97 for select cds.

Bull Moose $5.97 Select CDs

including some Aerosmith, Jeff Buckley, Jeff Beck, 311, Cowboy Junkies, Alice In Chains, Johnny Cash, Blue Oyster Cult, Louis Armstrong, Ben Folds Five, The Byrds, The Clash & Chet Atkins/Les Paul - Chester & Lester.

$6.97 CDs including Them Crooked Vultures

Bull Moose $6.97 Select CDs

$9.97 for select Beatles' Remasters and others.

$9.97 Select CDs

Etymology: Latin

 

Adverb ab aeterno

 

1. Since the beginning of time.

2.(figuratively) Since a very long time ago

Something tells me that will be a Richard Alpert centric episode or one on the Island?

Yes, I saw this and got all excited. But not too excited, since we're approaching the final season premiere.

One episode coming up is titled Ab Aeterno.

Here's a brief list of who's been added to the growing roster of characters. (from DarkUFO the best Lost site)

"Hiroyuki Sanada, a popular Japanese actor who worked with Matthew Fox in Speed Racer, has been cast as a character named Dogen. (New Lost Philosopher Reference Alert! Dogen Zenji was a fabled Zen Buddhist teacher.)

John Hawkes (Deadwood) has been cast as Lennon, whose name has me humming ''Imagine'' while painfully recalling that time in high school when I took a test about Russian history and I got docked one full grade for consistently misspelling ''Lenin'' as ''Lennon.'' Damn the corrupting mind virus that is the Beatles!

Other familiar faces/names scheduled to appear this season: Sheila Kelley (L.A. Law, Sisters)

and William Atherton, the always-entertaining character actor who specializes in playing... well, a--holes."

My own commentary: I really think Atherton, best known as the Ghostbusters dude "Yes it's true. This man has no dick.", will be playing Alvar Hanso. He looks similar to the guy that played Hanso in the Lost viral videos from Season 1 or 2.

WOW!!! Have the Coen Bros. NEVER missed a beat?!

I just came back from this and I'm going to dig around on here. I remember seeing a small discussion either in this thread or somewhere else.

But yeah they love to put their lead character through misery.

Edit: Found it! I'm wondering if mpolak, beltmann, & myself all laughed at the same scene? Did it involve a character in a canoe?

Anyways, I like beltmann's point that he made. I wonder if he has any more thoughts on the film. My friends seem to be avoiding these types of films lately. Not sure why? Between this and The Box, I'm pretty upset that I didn't see it with anyone. I can only discuss it on here or read IMDB.

Was the purpose of this thread a trap?

You know so we can add more pages to "The Greatest Feuds In VC History".

All of today's talk reminds me a lot of John Cusack's movie that was in limited release in 2008.

Have you heard of War, Inc. ?

"A political satire set in Turaqistan, a country occupied by an American private corporation run by a former US Vice-President. In an effort to monopolize the opportunities the war-torn nation offers, the corporation's CEO hires a troubled hit man, to kill a Middle East oil minister. Now, struggling with his own growing demons, the assassin must pose as the corporation's Trade Show Producer in order to pull off this latest hit, while maintaining his cover by organizing the high-profile wedding of Yonica Babyyeah an outrageous Middle Eastern pop star, and keeping a sexy left wing reporter in check."

It's definitely worth a rental. I own it and I managed to see it twice in theaters. There's one scene that is completely unnerving.

Basically, it says that the same company that sells the people of Turaqistan prosthetic limbs is also the same company responsible for bombing the shit out of them.

Plus, you can't go wrong with Dan Ayrkroyd as a Dick Cheney clone.

shabba rich, that's exactly my interpretation. Great summary.

 

 

 

I can add this: I think the title refers to one not being able to define oneself without others - that it is community that makes us who we are. The lines "Now everybody�s feeling all alone/Can�t tell you who I am" say to me that without community it's difficult to know who we are as individuals because we have no mirror with which to see ourselves. In the modern age there's danger of losing community in the hectic pace of life ("I believe in locomotion"), but at the same time new toys like cell phones actually work to connect people so we can share our stories even if we're not actually with someone we know. We're thankful for what little shred of communal connection we have left, for otherwise we'd lose everything, even ourselves.

 

Great song.

OK. I'm digging up a 2 year old thread. Pretty much to give credit to this analysis above. Also, to throw out something else out there.

In another thread I mentioned that I'm reading No Exit by Jean-Paul Sartre. I couldn't help but think about the idea in the play that there were no mirrors at all.

That is and can be hell to almost anyone.

Some talking points from the play. Honestly brought to you by Spark Notes. (Hey, I did actually read it. I found it easier to copy and paste)

Since there are no mirrors, Garcin must decide if Inez is right or what he thinks himself is right. In this case, Garcin believes Inez rather than his own judgment. He lets her define his essence, or personal characteristics, and thus, in Sartre's definition, has "bad faith."

Estelle does not think that she exists unless she looks in a mirror, seeing herself as others do. She does not trust her own judgment. She instead relies on an external object to both create her essence and verify her existence. When Inez pretends to be her "mirror" and says Estelle has a pimple on her face, Estelle's bad faith causes her to accept someone else literally creating her essence.

Inez can't stand Garcin looking at her because she thinks that he is automatically judging her. Since she thinks that is her own role, she accuses him of "stealing" her face. Garcin's mere existence thus reduces Inez's feelings of autonomy.

Sartre believed that human consciousness was free to choose its own character or essence but must also assume responsibility for this freedom. Estelle is unable to do this, asking Inez to be her mirror so she can create Estelle's essence for her. Inez revels in her power, even telling Estelle she has a pimple when she really doesn't. As for Inez, she refuses to let other people define her essence. She claims that she is always "painfully conscious" of herself.

Edit: I'm reading the lyrics. I'm debating to put certain lyrics on here to further show my angle.

But this line sticks out like a sore thumb:

"No feelings I can see

I trust no emotion"

Did you see Southland Tales? Fun flick.

 

Edit: I was somewhat confused by the stray bracket and/or I'm a moron.

Yeah, I think I didn't notice it when I posted that. (the stray bracket that is)

Yes, I did see it. 2 years to the day today.

One of my favorites of all time. The graphic novel helps to understand some more of what's going on.

Or this could read: What was more confusing the stray bracket or Southland Tales?

]Some or most of this may seem crazy to some, but I'm going to research it later on. Anyone familiar with this type of energy (the tides not wireless)?

Bear with me. Let me explain that yes this does come from a movie, but it is quite interesting. The concept at least.

OK. This comes from Southland Tales directed by Richard Kelly.

"The term fluid karma is used to refer to two things in the movie. First, it refers to an "organic compound" that the Treer company discovered while drilling off the coast of Israel, which exists under the Earth's mantle, and circles the world like a "serpent." Second, fluid karma is the name used by Treer for the "hydroelectric energy field" produced by their Utopia tidal generators. As the movie explains, the compound is being used by the Baron to power his energy plants, hence the energy field produced is named after it."

Richard Kelly stated in his interview with EMPIRE Magazine...

"The idea of wireless electricity and tides being a source of energy, and there being a potentially world-altering energy source under the ocean, is based on real scientific theory. Many people think wireless electricity is the thing that could rescue us from our dilemma as we reach the end of the petroleum era. Tide power, and the wireless transmission of electricity, are scientific realities. "

Ocean Energy Systems

I wonder what the OP thinks about 2012. I'm not meaning that to sound derogatory. I'm curious how much stock to put into scientists' claims on such events.

For me, I tend to go and look at all of the 2012 scenarios. Even the New Age ones. I find them all to be quite fascinating and there's even some hard science to back it up.

When it comes to global warming, I can't help but see a few agendas here and there. We're all obviously looking out for our best benefits. But there's way too much going on to say that we can truly change the course of our planet. Let's go for it, but we may not truly see the benefits in our lifetime. We need to believe in our good intentions.

I think that was on due to the re-make. I didn't see any of the re-make though. The Prisoner was recently re-made also.

 

I have always liked The Outer Limits better than The Twilight Zone (from a sci-fi point of view).

I really like the V tv show remake. It's quite imaginative and uses our fears of terrorism as a good starting point for the show's paranoia.

I think the original V was on Syfy a few weeks ago. I'd like to see that at some point. I remember it when I was little. The lizard aliens freaked me out.

I missed The Prisoner mini-series. I DVRed the 1st night and then I had scheduling conflicts on my DVR for nights 2 & 3. LOL

I think they're playing that on Sunday nights now at 10p.m. (I missed it again. Damn!)

I really want to start a thread about The Box. I feel that that was one of the best films of this year. Also, I think I'm the only person that saw it out of my friends.

I haven't seen the 80s episode it was based on "Button, Button", but I really would like to track it down.