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That sucks. I emailed them today to find out how to get my cancellation and insurance claim rolling. Pretty sure I have to cancel through Cloud 9 before contacting insurance, but someone please correct me if I’m wrong.

Well yes, of course they’d use the bully pulpit wisely. I’m not suggesting they shoot their mouths off. It feels like Wilco doesn’t really have a publicist, or even an advocate in this scenario. Maybe this is a bit of myth-making thanks to the documentary, but it seemed like Tony Margherita fought for Jeff/Wilco in a way nobody seems to be doing anymore, and if he or someone like him were still their manager, I don’t think we wouldn’t have seen Jeff in near distress trying to be his own PR person on the Tweedy Show last week.

Wilco may not have pull from a legal standpoint, but as long as it’s their name on all of the branding, they have a bully pulpit which could be very influential. They have chosen not to use it, however, and that is frustrating.

That’s my thought, too. I assume Instagram was just not refreshing itself on my end, but it made me wonder since there is obviously a lot of developing news in the Wilco world these days.

Instagram stories is still showing “Tweedy Show tonight at 9” Are they doing another one tonight?

Jeez, that’s crazy, was that because of Delta? Rumor now is the Dead is about to cancel their fest. Announcement at 4:00.

Now that two core members of Dead & Company will be absent from their Mexico resort festival next week, it’ll be interesting to see how things move forward for them, how fans react, how SBS deals with a similar development if one arises, etc.

An interesting comment on FB suggested that Cloud 9 may be letting this one go forward, and if it’s a disaster, they can then use it as leverage to get their insurance company to cover the cancellation of the festivals that follow immediately after SBS. Seems entirely plausible to me. I can only imagine Jeff and the band are feeling really conflicted about this. I especially worry for Mavis, Sue and others who have health concerns that could make Covid especially dangerous.

Makes you wonder how many fewer tickets they would have sold if this had been common knowledge when ticket went on sale. The official insurer of the event can be reached at 866-368-3724. I called them last week and their customer service rep was helpful.

Thank you and Kidsmoke for your sympathy. It’s part of the deal as an animal lover, and it’s worth going through the hard part after all they bring to our lives, but understanding that never makes it any easier. We may not see you at a future SBS, but we do travel sometimes for Wilco shows, And would be happy to run into you somewhere down the line.

Sorry in advance for the long rant, but I guess I need to vent a little… We did buy insurance. The event urged us to get cancel for any reason insurance, and offered three plans. We bought the highest end plan on the event website, which they said offered the best coverage. We figured that plan would include cancel for any reason, since that’s what they were telling us to buy. It does not. In order to get cancel for any reason we would have had to buy the most expensive plan, and then add on cancel for any reason. I don’t recall seeing anywhere on screen when I bought insurance

https://chng.it/rm8WffrcZV Theres a Change.org petition asking for a refund option on the SBS Facebook page. Petitions were a factor in the Dead & Co refund decision.

It’s good that we now have this example being set by Dead & Company and their event organizer and resort. Surely Wilco’s team is well aware of this development, and hopefully it provides a roadmap that will lead to a similar refund scenario for SBS. I know it’s gotta be very complicated, but at least now there’s precedent from a business/legal perspective and from a fan response perspective. From what I can see on the Dead and Company Reddit page, fans who were getting anxious are very pleased that refunds have been offered. And fans who still intend to go the event also feel

One of the sad things to me is that we purchased tickets knowing there was some risk, but we opted to exercise an abundance of hope, optimism, and sense of community rather than fear or caution. I think Wilco espouses that in their music and their ethos. But now that the game has changed, and our hopes have been dashed by a massively escalated risk and myriad logistical hurdles, the attitude (not necessarily from the band directly, but the general tenor of the event) has become “you knew the risks and should have covered your ass, so shut up and get out of the way so people who aren’t worri

All of that is a huge concern to me. We have many legitimate, non-Covid related reasons not to go. I need to call today and confirm that our insurance is the cancel for any reason policy, and if it is not I need to figure out which of our reasons for cancellation is least likely to be denied by the insurance company.

There should have been some sort of refund policy for people who were ineligible for insurance. Can you buy a policy locally? I’d love to hear about people’s experience using the insurance. Through my job, I see insurance companies weasel out of payouts all the time, so I’m not confident my policy is worth the paper it’s printed on. That’s why my preference is for a postponement with a refund option. Or not postponing and just straight up offering refunds, and then reselling the rooms to someone who isn’t worried about covid.

We’ve decided to back out. We have insurance but we’re going to wait and see if they cancel or postpone, in which case we can get a refund. Some number of people are definitely going to get Covid at this event. The idea of getting Covid and then being locked in a hotel room alone at the Residence Inn, or wherever they ship you off to, for two weeks is extremely unappealing, and a little too likely.

They might be bigger than Wilco by that point. Maybe already are. I’m skeptical that they’d be booked for SBS.

Thanks for the clarification. My premise remains unchanged: Wilco fans want to spend more money on Wilco related items. There’s nothing wrong with that, Jeff is smart to offer more stuff to fulfill that desire. There’s also nothing wrong with that. Money matters. Everyone needs it, and more is usually better than less. It’d be stupid to let it slip through your fingers.

Lots of people bought it before it was discontinued and made masks out of it. There are pictures all over the FB page of this. Nothing wrong with that. It’s a cute way to show fandom. But it demonstrates to Jeff that people will pay him for just about anything. So if some feel this latest venture is a cash in, or isn’t worth the money, don’t blame Jeff. He’s just following the lead of his fans.

If I were Jeff, and I noticed that Wilco fans are running out to Ikea in droves and buying the same curtains he has in his house, I would smell dollar signs. If it’s crass for Jeff to cash in (and I’m not saying it is), maybe it’s because the fans are a little too eager to buy anything that has the slightest whiff of Wilco or Tweedy.

There was no indication that he dislikes Grohl personally. It came across to me more that his antics have become tiresome. He’s such an over the top self promoter that Tweedy probably doesn’t want to give him any free oxygen.

Somehow they got on the subject of the nicest person in rock music. Grohl’s name came up, and Jeff jeered. He said “I didn’t know we needed a Mayor of Rock.” My opinion is that Grohl has been laying the nice guy, “Make A Wish Foo-ndation” routine (I just made that up and I’m keeping it 😂) a little thick and it’s become cloying and obnoxious. Jeff’s response strongly suggests that he shares that opinion. No offense intended towards the Make a Wish Foundation. In fairness, Jeff did say that Grohl has been nice to him every time they’ve met.

That performance of Moonlight Mike was fantastic. Spencer did a beautiful job of that. I am so happy to have my opinion of Dave Grohl vindicated.

I saw the video of Honky Tonk Women on the FB page, and it was interesting to hear Nels play a solo that was far more in Pat's stylistic wheelhouse.