pocket Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 I'm assuming it's basically "the illiterate light is with us every night", either loosely or exactly. Is it latin? I've tried just googling it, but have come up with nothing. Thanks for amusing this young whippersnapper with his lyric inquiries. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1212 Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 where does it say "illiterati lumen fedei"? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tapmyglass Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 where does it say "illiterati lumen fedei"?right before it says the illiterate light is with us every night, I've always asumed that it meant something close to that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pillowy star Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 It means "Illiterate light of faith", whereas "faith" is equalized with "God" here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 What is this in reference to? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pillowy star Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 " Illitterati lumen fideiGod is with us everydayThat illiterate lightIs with us every night" That is the lyric where Jeff mentions it, I guess he refers to "Theologians they don't know nothing", and when they as the earthly representatives of God don't know nothing, then God doesn't either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Speed Racer Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Not to be a Latin nerd, but 'illiterati' is with 'fidei,' not 'lumen,' therefore the rough translation would be the light of illiterate faith, or something to that effect. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
creativetype Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 " Illitterati lumen fideiGod is with us everydayThat illiterate lightIs with us every night" That is the lyric where Jeff mentions it, I guess he refers to "Theologians they don't know nothing", and when they as the earthly representatives of God don't know nothing, then God doesn't either. In the Bob Edwards interview (free podcast download from the roadcase), Jeff says "illiterate light" is not a negative or prejorative sense (like "God is illiterate"), but means that God transcends language or words. He also says what a cherry ghost is ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Not to be a Latin nerd, but 'illiterati' is with 'fidei,' not 'lumen,' therefore the rough translation would be the light of illiterate faith, or something to that effect. Sorry to step on your nerdhood, but it really should be "inlitterati," too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pillowy star Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Oh yes. Definitely. iNlitterati is so much better than the ordinary illiterati. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Oh yes. Definitely. iNlitterati is so much better than the ordinary illiterati. inlitteratus -a -um [ignorant , illiterate] Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigideas Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 what is a cherry ghost then? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1212 Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 what is a cherry ghost then? when you die you leave a sweet taste like how you were loved and did love or something Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pocket Posted November 13, 2006 Author Share Posted November 13, 2006 Thanks so much for the replies, you guys. I appreciate it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
creativetype Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 I don't think I'll ever get a handle on "crawling is screw faster lash" ... but oh well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 ?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
benjamin Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 I don't know what you guys just said....... but you moved me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 when you die you leave a sweet taste like how you were loved and did love or somethingNo. Even though he wrote it, I think Jeff's wrong. "Cherry ghost," looked at in context of the song and the album - A ghost is born - means in this case "brand-new," as in, "That's a real cherry Camaro you got there, Todd." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wilco LP #7 Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 Yes, it's latin for the english lyrics that follow. Tweedy said this in an interview with Bob Edwards, which you should all get your hands on ASAP. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 Yes, it's latin for the english lyrics that follow. Actually, as was demonstrated above, it's not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Actually, as was demonstrated above, it's not.Elitist. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 ...ceterum censeo Sirstewartum esse delendum. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 ...ceterum derivation of cetera ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 derivation of cetera ? Not likely, since that's Latin, and Peter Cetera is Polish. "Cetera," of course, is a form of "ceterus, -a, -um," but as far as I know, the Latin word and the Polish surname are unrelated. Santorum, on the other hand, comes directly from Latin, and means "of the saints." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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