caliber66 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 [quote name='JUDE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Heartbreak Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 i think jim lehey coined the term "shitdick"Damn, someone always beats me to the punch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 I think it's not so much that they are gay, but rather that a public figure in entertainement or sports has gone public w/ the fact.Exactly. When the person "coming out" calls a press conference to alert the media, should the media turn a blind eye? Maybe. But it ain't the media's fault. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrRain422 Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 Sometimes I feel like I'm King Kaufman's publicist or something, because I talk him up so much. But as usual, he nails this issue: King Kaufman's Sports DailyAs ex-NBA journeyman John Amaechi comes out, it's time for sports leagues to stop accepting intolerance as a given. Feb. 8, 2007 | It would be nice to say that the announcement by former NBA journeyman John Amaechi that he's gay was a groundbreaking revelation, but truth be told, it isn't. Amaechi is the seventh male player in the major North American team sports to come out, all after their retirement. I don't want to go as far as Michael Ventre, who took the postmodern route of devoting 1,007 words on the news site MSNBC to the proposition that Amaechi's announcement is "not news." But we have been down this road before. The story has a familiar outline. A few supportive comments from within the game. A few neutral comments -- "We have a very diverse league," NBA commissioner David Stern said. "The question at the NBA is always 'Have you got game?' That's it, end of inquiry." A few unwelcoming but, in the wake of the reaction to San Francisco 49ers running back Garrison Hearst's hateful response to Esera Tuaolo's coming out in 2002, not blatantly homophobic comments. And widespread agreement that it'd be a lot harder for a current player to come out. "It's really a difficult thing to do, knowing the nature of sports and being in that locker room, it could be tough," Toronto Raptors coach Sam Mitchell told the Canadian Press. Mitchell, a progressive guy, cited the immaturity of men in their 20s as a big stumbling block for a gay player to gain acceptance in the locker room. "I think it wouldn't be a lot of guys, but there would always be one or two on a team" who would have a problem with a gay teammate, Mitchell said. And that's not to mention the reactions of opponents and fans. We've been through this enough times now that it's time the story changed. David Stern is missing an opportunity with his shrugging comment asserting that the only thing that matters is whether a guy can play. At any given time there are 360 active players on NBA rosters, plus an additional 120 in the NBA Development League. Chances are pretty good that a few of them are gay. Amaechi will tell ESPN's "Outside the Lines" this weekend that "there are some," though he won't identify any. There are about twice as many baseball players in the major leagues and hockey players on NHL rosters at any one time. There are more than 1,500 players at a time on NFL rosters. And hiding among these thousands of men are who-knows-how-many gay men who, according to Amaechi, according to Tuaolo, according to the other former players who have come out, are terrified to tell the truth. And everyone just accepts that as a fact of life, like cold weather in Milwaukee or how much it hurts when you jam your fingers. The men in charge of these sports, the commissioners like Stern, shrug their shoulders and say all that matters is can a fellow play. Well, that's not all that matters to those gay players, whoever they are and however many of them there are. It matters that they're afraid to tell the truth about who they are. It matters that they figure they'll lose the respect and support of their teammates and coaches, maybe they'll even lose their jobs, if they dare to become the gay Jackie Robinson. That laissez-faire approach -- "Have you got game? That's it, end of inquiry" -- is awfully weak coming from people who pay so much lip service to the real Jackie Robinson. Standing up to bigotry is all well and good as long as it happened long enough ago, as long as it's not the bigotry of our guys. Why is it OK with Stern that the intolerance of the people who are the very product of his business is accepted, taken as a given? Why is it OK that some unknown number of employees in that business -- people at the very top of their profession -- just have to hunker down and endure a hostile environment at work, every day, every night? What if Philadelphia 76ers forward Shavlik Randolph had said he's not really comfortable with black teammates, but he manages? What if he'd said, "As long as you don't bring your blackness on me I'm fine"? And "As far as business-wise, I'm sure I could play with him. But I think it would create a little awkwardness in the locker room"? That would be so not OK it's almost impossible to express. Randolph would get a thank-you card from Michael Richards for taking the heat off of him. But Randolph said those things about having a gay teammate, so, hey, no problem. Stern should take this opportunity to make it clear that this sort of intolerance, even the kind of backhanded, grudging acceptance reflected in all those quotes about how guys could handle a gay teammate as long as he didn't try to get funny in the shower, is out of bounds. Stern should mandate that teams hold pride-night promotions, educate their players about the evils of homophobia -- pointing out the parallels between anti-gay attitudes and racism might change some minds in a majority-black league -- and punish players and coaches who make homophobic statements just as those who make racist comments are punished, at least with public censure. Rather than pretending that it's all and only about whether a guy can play, Stern should work with GLAAD or similar groups to proactively fight intolerance. The NBA and other pro leagues are unusual workplaces, but they're workplaces all the same, and there have been programs to combat workplace prejudice in existence for decades. Amaechi, 36, a man widely liked and respected by his teammates when he was a marginal player with the Cleveland Cavaliers, Orlando Magic and Utah Jazz, might be a good spokesman for such a campaign. In Amaechi's case, the answer to Stern's inquiry -- "Have you got game?" -- was "only a little." But there are more important games than the one played on a 94-foot hunk of hardwood. There's one called real life. And on this play, so far, David Stern hasn't got game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 I've done my share of linking to (or copying/pasting) Kaufman columns. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 I read that earlier. Good stuff, as usual. Hell, as always. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SideshowByTheSeashore Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 Poking gay people does mean that you're probably gay yourself. You are correct, sir. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oatmealblizzard Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Unless it's just a quick Phil Collins after you come home from the bar. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boots Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 I'm also offended by those Burger King ads where they sing that man song. I find that Burger King ad rather homoerotic. A bunch of men leaving their women to march the street together singing a song about wanting meat. Then there was that ad where the guy wakes up next to the "king" in bed and of course the "king" has some sort of breakfast meat waiting for him.I guess I just find Burger King in general to be rather homoerotic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Thanks for the sig Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Thanks for the sig No, thank you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Whoa. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Duck-Billed Catechist Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Meta! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Meta!I was totally gonna say that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Duck-Billed Catechist Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 but did you see my sig? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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