gogo Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 Hey, I'd only seen the Irish version before! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ULdaSrYGLQ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted November 13, 2009 Author Share Posted November 13, 2009 Wow, just fucking wow... Catholic archdiocese gives ultimatum to D.C. Church officials say that unless the city alters a proposed same-sex marriage law, the archdiocese will discontinue its social service programs. Washington - The Catholic Archdiocese of Washington said Wednesday that it would be unable to continue the social service programs it runs for the District of Columbia if the city refused to change a proposed same-sex marriage law. The threat could affect tens of thousands of people the church helps with adoption, homelessness and healthcare. Under the legislation, which the City Council is expected to pass next month, religious organizations would not be required to perform or make space available for same-sex weddings. But they would have to obey laws prohibiting discrimination against gays and lesbians. Fearful that they could be forced, among other things, to extend employee benefits to same-sex married couples, church officials said they would have no choice but to abandon their contracts with the city. "If the city requires this, we can't do it," said Susan Gibbs, spokeswoman for the archdiocese. "The city is saying in order to provide social services, you need to be secular. For us, that's really a problem." The clash escalates the dispute over the same-sex marriage proposal between the council and the archdiocese, which has generally stayed out of city politics. Catholic Charities, the church's social services arm, is one of dozens of nonprofit organizations that partner with Washington. City leaders said the church, which serves 68,000 people here, is not the dominant provider of any particular social service. But the church pointed out that it supplemented funding for city programs with $10 million from its coffers. "All of those services will be adversely impacted if the exemption language remains so narrow," Jane G. Belford, chancellor of the archdiocese, wrote to the council. the link Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Perhaps DC should tell the Archdiocese it will be forced to revoke the Church's tax-exempt status if it doesn't keep its fucking nose out of secular political issues. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted November 13, 2009 Author Share Posted November 13, 2009 Perhaps DC should tell the Archdiocese it will be forced to revoke the Church's tax-exempt status if it doesn't keep its fucking nose out of secular political issues. That's exactly what I was thinking. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 wow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Paging Martin Luther! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uncool2pillow Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Paging Martin Luther! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Edie Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Go DC go! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted November 14, 2009 Author Share Posted November 14, 2009 From Andrew Sullivan: As the Democrats in New York State again stick it to their gay supporters, just as the Democrats in Washington continue to do, it's worth watching this brief interaction. A constituent of state senator George Maziarz asks him a question at a constituency meeting. The question is civil, it contains many arguments, it offers any number of ways to address its points. What does Maziarz do? He simply dismisses the arguments, addresses none of them, reiterates his position that marriage is between a man and a woman, period, and gets a round of applause. No argument, no engagement - just raw majority power against a tiny minority in often desperate straits. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuWJ6LQ9R4U&feature=player_embedded Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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