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No. I bought the album because of hearing about its saga from other sources, and hearing "Heavy Metal Drummer" on the radio. Grownups don't give one single solitary shit about that website, trust me.

 

 

Neither does my mom!

"Grown ups" weren't the new audience that YHF reached. They were already into Summerteeth, Being There and the MAs, no?

If anything, the new audience that YHF reached was the kids who listened to Radiohead and Pavement, and didn't really have a background in the Flying Burrito Brothers and CSNY. Said audience are Pitchfork readers.

The album dropped during what I imagine might end up being the worst period of my life, when all is said and done - certainly the worst period to date. The, "everything's great! God it used to suck!" vibe was soooooo not what I wanted to hear - kind of rubbing it in, you know? But I tried listening to it, which then only made me associate that horrible period with that record. Finally, about a year later, I was able to put it on and be on the same wavelength as the record. For someone who was really hoping for more self-loathing, self-important doomsday tunes, it took me a while to get into it, but I really do love it for what it is now.

Yeah. If SBS had dropped say...the day after Election last year...I might've been like "BEST ALBUM EVAAARR".

2007 just seemed like a really poor time to be positive for me too.

Just for the record I never said I didn't like SBS. I just think Wilco made engaging albums before extended Nels solos came along. You don't need to be a guitar god to create an interesting solo. Sometimes proficiency=sterility.

That's why I'm not a Satriani fan.

To me, SBS's weakness was actually mostly from lyrical choices made by Jeff, and arrangement choices made by the whole band. It's unfair to blame everything on Nels.

Oh who cares what Pitchfork thinks. Half of the records on their best new music section sound like they were recorded on a my first Sony. They have become nothing more then an aging website obsessed with trying to sound relevant to the younger generation. They much more concerned with the scene that an album is geared too then the music itself. Is calling something Dad rock an insult if you are old enough to be a dad? Do Pitchfork writers not age, or do they kicked out the door the minute they grow pubic hair?

Sky Blue Sky (5.0?) and Ghost is Born (6.0?) are still some of the best records of the decade regardelss if PM says they are "relevant" or not.

I agree on AGIB, but not on SBS.

I'm with those who want to wait until the release to hear the new album. The stream of Sky Blue Sky + listening to live recordings very nearly ruined the album for me.

 

The only Wilco (studio) album that I remember fully enjoying upon first listen was Being There (this was in 2005, not 1996). For the most part I find that a new Wilco record requires concentration, patience, full artwork etc.. Sitting in front of a computer screen is not the way to go.

This is very true, except for me, it was Summerteeth that hit me instantly (I was in a big Beatles/Beach Boys phase, so it went down really easy.) Being There and AGIB I thought were pretty average, but both grew on me. I remember thinking was an YHF impressive record, but I didn't feel an instant personal connection to it. Now it's maybe my fav album of all time.

It wouldn't surprise me if this one takes a little while to grow on me. That being said, I'll still listen to whatever stream/ promo etc we get.

I was always partial to Robbie Robertson. His lines are so melodic and song-serving that you almost don't notice it when he takes lead.

I also love Sterling Morrison and George Harrison for the same reason.

That's it. I am suing you all

You're too late; I sued everyone here yesterday.

I really hope CNN picks this up.

I'd love to see video of Jay on the stand "To quote myself..."

So much conflicting information, if this goes to jury I'm guessing they will wind up dreadlocked.

 

Sorry about that.

Ahhh we have a PUNisher over here.

Unless they officially release a live recording of a Bennett-helped song, I don't think they need to pay him when they perform it live. Artists don't have to pay when they perform a cover in concert, so Wilco playing a song Jay helped produce isn't really any different.

I'm too lazy to look up the writing credits to every Wilco song, but on Ashes of American Flags on a glance, I see several songs co-written by Jay. Same with Kicking Television.

He spoke to me years ago about doing something like this, saying he was not fully compensated for this or that...I just assumed that it had been cleared up one way or another by now.

 

Do you think Jeff will stop performing any songs co-written by Jay now? Out of spite, that's what I'd do. But I'm an angry little bugger.

God I hope not. Jay co-wrote the majority of the songs on my two fav Wilco albums (YHF and Summerteeth).

I need a camel

to my eye

There are also a few songs on AGIB and SBS that Jay might have co-written. "Wishful Thinking" was written around the time of Foxtrot and there's a tape of Jay playing on it. It's possible that he had something to do with it. "Impossible Germany" also dates back to the Jay Bennett era (circa- Summerteeth)

It's not that I don't think there are weaker songs ("Forget the Flowers", "Someone Else's Song", "Red-Eyed and Blue") but I just couldn't imagine leaving any off. At this point Being There is too etched into my brain to talk about editing it.

My biggest qualm is actually that they sidelined "Blasting Fonda", which is one of my favorite songs from that era.

Oh hurray for Summerteeth hate. *rolls eyes*

Candyfloss is a great pop tune, with a great melody and an arrangement that rewards repeated listens. To me that's the definition of a great song (Though I'm not saying things without those things can't be great songs.) I seriously can't understand how anyone can not like that song.

I guess now I know how people feel when I say "Red-Eyed and Blue" or "Forget the Flowers" are nothing special.

This is more a Cars Can't Escape EP cover though lol.

all 19 songs. Plus Blasting Fonda.

A.M.

Being There

Summerteeth

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot

A Ghost is Born

Sky Blue Sky

Wilco (The Album)

DUH!

So if you thought those records sucked, you would have a small record collection, then.

Not really...

There have been an average of 20,000 records a year for the past 10 years alone.

I think I have a decent sized record collection; about 2,000 records on my iPod. That would be less than 20% of the # of records made in a year alone, much less in the last 70 or so years that my record collection spans.

So let's say theoretically the number is half a million different albums have been made. That'd mean I had 0.4% of all records made on my iPod. I am 25 years old, and probably won't get to listen to more than a few thousand records in the remainder of my life.

Basically...you can still not like something that's better than 80% of all records made...because that would still leave you with several thousand records to enjoy. By my estimation, at least 100k. Yeah. I can live with having 100k records.

I hate Pitchfork. They act all excited, but you know they'll give the album like a 5.8 and say: DAD ROCK DAD ROCK DAD ROCK DAD ROCK DAD ROCK.

Are you with him?

Yes in Biscayne Bay.

Don't get me wrong, Murray Street is great, but I'm just not seeing it as anywhere near a best of artist.

I guess I'll throw my complete 10 cents in since last time I just made a comment about Sister. Sonic Youth started picking up speed in 1986, and kind of dropped off after 1992. After that sporadic SY albums are great.

The block of albums that includes EVOL, Sister, Daydream Nation, Goo and Dirty is really unassailable to me. Those are the albums that made SY legends, and I suggest that anyone/ everyone at least gives those a shot.

Doctor Wu is prescribing you a night's worth of DAN.

Go. They're awesome live.

I'm listening to it. It's a great classy restrained set of songs. Really loving it.

"One two, one two, one two, titty

I know every nook and cranny in New York City"- Sonic Youth "Master-Dik"