Tweedling

Shit. What a talent and so fun to watch. A million dollar smile.

RIP

PBO

It is comments like this that show just how hypocritical the right can be.

You would be the first to point the finger at the administration if an attack happened and nothing was done.

But I guess when you think everything PBO does is bad, I would expect any other type of comment.

Oh, and I do not think everything Obama does is bad but go ahead and run with this.

I heard we've closed some embassies in parts of the Muslim world.... Is there another video on you tube?!

Explain.

 

......... On the flip side I can't imagine someone with deeply held conservative political views listening with any pleasure in listening to Public Enemy.

 

LouieB

Let's not dismiss all psychopaths as unreliable sources...

Thank you!  haha

Aw shit. My apologies. That link was the first one I found that had the flyer in Spanish encouraging those here illegally to apply for food stamps. I was not aware of what that website encourages or believes. In no way do I support a race hating group. That was my mistake. The Washington Examiner link I posted has the flyer as well.

Read it again.  There's nothing in there that says that immigrants are eligible, or are utilizing the system.  It says the USDA (that's the dept of agriculture) is advising undocumented workers to cheat the paper work to access SNAP.  They're doing that because they want to provide at risk kids with food and they know that most immigrants wouldn't even try, so they're hoping to encourage them, even though technically it's against the rules.

 

The ID laws are restrictive to several groups of people who don't have ID's.  Most states won't do it, or need to.  If you can't see how this is a political poll gambit, then you sir are wearing a very fashionable pair of rose colored glasses.

Yep. I keep reading it and every time it still says that illegal immigrants can, " receive financial assistance". Sounds pretty eligible. Do you know any illegal immigrants who receive food stamps or, as we call them in Texas, Lone Star Card? I do.

I like the idea of ID's to vote. Sorry we disagree. You're going to say it is restrictive to eligible voters and I think it would keep people who aren't citizens from being able to vote.

 I just bought those glasses btw.

Check the SNAP website (that's the dept that runs food stamps in the U.S.).  They're not eligible.

 

But again, are you trying to convince us that illegal immigrants are bad for the U.S. (an argument that inevitably fails), or are we still trying to rationalize new restrictive voter laws to prevent a hypothetical immigrant from illegally voting in an election motivated by hypothetical "funding" a candidate has controversially made to be part of their platfrom (a new and weird, but interesting argument)?

Yes sir I understand SNAP. Check out their memo. http://washingtonexaminer.com/usda-to-mexico-illegal-immigrants-can-have-food-stamps/article/2528152?custom_click=rss

If by new restrictive laws you mean having an ID then yes I am for that.

That's patently false.  An illegal immigrant is not eligible for food stamps.  The only kind of health care they get is the kind where you go to the emergency room and when you can't pay the send you bills and eventually to collections.  Otherwise many pay out-of-pocket for urgent care.

I work in a hospital. The amount of care given to illegal immigrants is far beyond "urgent care". After care is given bills are not paid....in or out of pocket. a fact.

I've been told that illegals can get food stamps. The Department of Agriculture seems to agree.http://www.amren.com/news/2013/04/usda-to-mexico-illegal-immigrants-can-have-food-stamps/

I'm pretty sure we fund them with education, health care and food stamps. Not bad for someone breaking the law to be here.

it's kind of silly to fight vehemently for every citizen's access to vote and then be cavalier about preventing people from voting who have no right to vote. 

Damn it! you put what I was thinking all in one sentence. Dick

Not to be condescending or rude but I believe it's naive to believe that these people are apolitical or that afraid of being deported. We've all voted and and I've never seen ICE agents at a polling station. Why wouldn't an illegal go vote for a president who endorses further funding of illegal aliens and their children? Hell they mingle in society as if they were citizens. I see it all the time. My cousin owns multiple restaurants and having family that farms, interacting with illegals are a common occurrence. My wife had an automobile accident with 2 illegal women. The police were called to do the report and when we asked if the ladies would have consequences for being here illegally the officer said its a low priority for the police department. One of my cousins employees got arested and was deported....he was back at his job in less than 3 weeks!

These are obviously things I've seen and caused me to think the way I do. I just find it difficult to believe that in the areas and neighborhoods that illegals live there isn't an organized movement AND successful voting block.

It's hard for me to swallow, "the more people that vote the better." when there are 11 million illegal potential voters. I do believe it's a wonderful right that makes this country different and great but it also should be treated as a precious right. (damn I'm rambling sorry)

If there are 11 million people living in the US illegally how many of those do you think voted in the last presidential election?

I'm not directing this question to anyone in particular I am just curious to see what everyone thinks.

Since when do you have to be a citizen to have a college ID.  All sorts of folks from foreign countries can be in US colleges and universities.  There is no citizenship requirement to go to college.  Wow.

 

LouieB

Wow..... Thank you for that.

Can you NOT be a citizen and have a college ID?

you were more useful to this site when you only posted stupid photos.

I was thinking about that just the other day.

Yeah, maybe those "guys" are just being misunderstood.

See what I did there...

I know there are some Michigan peeps on this board. What in the hell has Detroit been doing wrong?

Is this an official White House press release--I mean was it on twitter?

Funny! Hahaha

About to throw on my ear goggles and reminisce.

"You're not any less of a man if you don't pull the trigger, you're not necessarily a man if you do"

One of the best hip hop albums of all time!

It's ironic to me, both of these guys have written som sick rock-love-pop songs. Fact!

It would be a wonderful collaboration.

I was supposed to see Belle and Sebastian and Phish last week but both fell through..Im in the middle of a semi drought..seeing Ben Folds Five and Guster Saturday, August Im seeing Steely Dan at Red Rocks and September is PACKED! Got Travis, Depeche Mode, Pet Shop Boys, Atoms for Peace amongst a few smaller bands and Tame Impala/Flaming Lips in October! Really digging Tame Impala these days!

Jealous face about Steely Dan.