ZenLunatic

I don't believe in it either, but it is the law of the land right now. I know as well as you and as well as the rest of the country that the death penalty has nothing to do with deterrance, it is all about revenge and biblical justice.

Revenge will only leave everyone dead.

Either way, as long as the death penalty exist, murderers will exist.

It is the law, so whatever.

That was sort of my point

I dont believe in the death penalty. Killing someone doesnt solve murderous crimes.

I'm the one in the back.

war is bad

Isn't this a contradiction? You do not like winner takes all, but want the person who has the most votes to win?

 

The delegate system allows minorities to have a say in the process rather than blindly allowing the majority to do whatever it wants.

All votes should count equally. Forget delegates system, every americans vote is the same. Just keep a running tally as you go along from state to state so every vote counts towards the canidates equally. No thresholds of votes to earn delegates or winner take all.

I want the person with the most votes from a tally of all votes in all states to win. Not earn the most of a state and then get all delegates for that state.

This is just a vote to see who is better. The majority votes wins.

Sorry - I still can't get over the fact that in the past 5 years people have got in trouble over posting such things here. Including me.

Being on the message board all day isnt worthy of trouble, just as long as your not on porn huh.

Just giving you a hard time, I should work more myself.

And what does it mean to finish the job there?

 

I'm more concerned with people dying.

 

Terrorism will grow and prosper so long as we keep invading countries that don't want us there under false pretenses.

Yeah, those are my feelings too.

Of course the war's an issue with me, I just don't think the remaning candidates will end up being that different in their approaches. I could be wrong. I tend to fall in the "stay until the job is done" category, whatever that means. Actually, McCain, Clinton and Obama are not that different in a lot of areas.

 

Overall, though, I just think hot dogs and hot dog buns should come in equal quantities.

I meant war issue in respect to the candiates not war itself. So it seems you like McCains view of the war and the US President is just a puppet on strings.

Oh there are plenty.. But there will be even more if we pull out without finishing the job.. Things are getting better there, but it's going to take time.. We can't pull them out ASAP, or the terrorists will declare victory.. The jihad will get worse, and terrorism will grow and prosper.. Sad, but it's true.. And I know many will disagree with me, but I'm just saying what I believe..

I dont think terrorism is a war between America and Iraq.

The thing is, it could go on forever. There's got to be limits. When is enough, enough? We cant police the world. We should have never even gone into Iraq.

I'm pretty sure all 3 of them would pull them out in about the same amount of time.

Sounds like the war is a non-issue with you. What issues do you think are of concern?

So who you like in the canidates or is it all the same to you?

Welcome to American Politics. Nice of you to join us.

Sorry, I like to think there is a difference especially with Obama.

The basic stand is that McCain supports the war and should stay there till things get finished.

Hillary/Obama oppose the war, they will start moving troops out as soon as possible.

There is a definite difference in thinking. I dont know the details of their plan, but their ideas will make a difference in how things are handled.

If regardless of canidate, things will be the same, whats the point?

Obama and/or Clinton aren't pulling troups out any sooner than McCain. Don't kid yourself.

Then all the stuff they are saying is just BS? I dont believe that.

Whats the point of all this, what makes any difference between canidates if they do the same thing.

2 questions re Romney.

 

First, why is he "suspending" his campaign? He is not suspending anything. He is dropping out. He quits. Stop playing semantic games with everyone.

 

And second, what the fuck is up with this quote from an article I just read?

He then told the crowd he disagrees with McCain on a number of issues, but that he'd given the matter a lot of thought and if he fought on all the way to the Republican convention, " I forestall the launch of a national campaign and frankly I'd be making it easier for Senator Clinton or Obama to win. Frankly, in this time of war, I simply cannot let my campaign be a part of aiding a surrender to terror."

 

Adios, dipshit.

Yeah sounds like he is really for being in Iraq and that trumps everything. I have totally opposite feelings as him. We need out of war asap. McCain cannot win.

I smell Movie script.

I do have a problem with the delegate system though. Especially in the winner take all places. Why is it still like this? I never understood the reasoning behing delegate system.

Cant people agree that talling all votes equally is better and more fair? Who ever has the most votes at the end wins.

McCain: 707 delegates, Huckabee: 195. It takes 1,191 to win the nomination.

Stick a fork in it.

Yeah, McCain's got it pretty much in the bag anyways.

QUOTE (ZenLunatic @ Feb 6 2008, 01:51 PM)

"The fact is life is about being free and growing who you are, if it works out you can do that with one person your whole life, you are lucky. But if it doesnt, movin on is normal and natural. The time you spend with a person is all that matters."

 

 

The part quote above is fine, but has nothing to do with marriage.

It has everything to do with marriage.

most people are good, but more and more, i believe we are willfully ignorant.

 

i have totally changed my mind about christianity. don't claim it anymore and am at best and apathest when it comes to god.

 

good question.

craig

Yeah, I'm went through that too

What? So, marriage worked better when life expectancies were shorter? With all due respect, Zen, that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

Yes, exactly. When people only lived till 30s or 40s, there was less time to grow and change as there is now. You live you die. Not saying it was the best idea then but it just worked better then. The fact is life is about being free and growing who you are, if it works out you can do that with one person your whole life, you are lucky. But if it doesnt, movin on is normal and natural. The time you spend with a person is all that matters.

Explain it then.

 

I don't see how it isn't a man-made institution. Seeing as, like, everything on earth is.

Exactly,

Like most things, marriage is not part of nature we adopted. Marriage wasnt around since the beginning of mankind. It came about when human life expectancy was alot shorter therefore it worked then.

I believe in the future, as people get more advanced and enlightened, marriage will have different meanings to what is the popular belief now. It is what you make it. You can see even now things slowly changing.

i certainly don't mean to bad mouth heath ledger, as i really liked him, and perhaps he didn't mean to kill himself, or perhaps he did, i don't care, i'm just sad he's dead, but to me, there's something severely wrong with you, emotionally, if you're taking that concoction of drugs.

 

doesn't anyone value the efficacy of therapy anymore, or just need a quick fix from a pill?

Yeah I agree. Heath had big probs no matter how you look at it.

I couldn't make it through half of that pile of crap.

 

Marriage is not a "man made institution".

You are my exact opposite. Hello Bizzaro ZenLunatic.

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